2018-19 Russian Ladies' figure skating

[BossT]

Sofia SAMODELKINA - 3Lz+3Lo, Rippon ver. (Slowmotion, 2018)
https://youtu.be/jp_5QZVGRAU

 

[ramed]

so anyone who lives in Moscow could work/train in Reutov or vice versa?

The absolute majority of people who live in Reutov work in Moscow. Panova's school, "The Snow Leopards" is around 1 hour away from the center of Moscow by public transport.

 

[Spirals for Miles]

I was bored today so what did I do? I thought about Russian Nationals and Russian Junior Nationals, of course!
I'm really excited for junior nationals, and here's why:
ALL THE WONDERFUL SKATERS!!! everyone there will be wonderful and here's who I think will qualify:
By JGP assignments:
1) Trusova
2) Kostornaya
3) Tarakanova
4) Shcherbakova
5) Kanysheva
6) Sinitsyna
7) Tarusina
8) Vasilieva
By KMC Russian Cup spots, 9 of the following (in order of likelihood to qualify in my opinion):
Kostyuk
Tsibinova
Valieva
Usacheva
Kromykh
Frolova
Safonova
Shabotova
Sinyavina
Emelyanova
Chistyakova
Pankova
Pavlova

 

[Bluediamonds09]

Can I ask about Ksenia Sinitsyna? I’d never heard of her until a few months ago. But at a junior competition she got a whopping 75 in the sp!!! WOW!!! So, can I assume she has a powerful coach ( the woman in the kiss-and-cry looked like Pogo’s coach) and is well liked by the Russian federation? Is that ok to assume? I’m thinking she’ll be a threat this season!

 

[Shayuki]

Panova's girls get scored... generously domestically. Sinitsyna's a pretty good skater but not even close to 75 good.

She should be #2 for Panova and I doubt she gets JGP spots.

 

[Osmond4gold]

Never mind.

 

[ramed]

Can I ask about Ksenia Sinitsyna? I’d never heard of her until a few months ago. But at a junior competition she got a whopping 75 in the sp!!! WOW!!! So, can I assume she has a powerful coach ( the woman in the kiss-and-cry looked like Pogo’s coach) and is well liked by the Russian federation? Is that ok to assume? I’m thinking she’ll be a threat this season!

With some help from Google Translate, you'll find more here: http://www.fskate.ru/skaters/4266.html . Coached by Svetlana Panova at 'Snow Leopards'.

 

[Grin]

Never mind.

If you don't follow juniors it doesn't mean they aren't worth watching. In fact Russian junior nationals is tougher than Russian nationals (in ladies).

 

[sweetice]

In fact Russian junior nationals is tougher than Russian nationals (in ladies).

Not in the incoming season, with all the best juniors ( aside, maybe, Kanysheva ) ready for skate in both competitions.

 

[moriel]

Not in the incoming season, with all the best juniors ( aside, maybe, Kanysheva ) ready for skate in both competitions.

But in senior nationals, the juniors do not take spots, so the fight for spots is still between senior ladies only.

 

[sweetice]

But in senior nationals, the juniors do not take spots, so the fight for spots is still between senior ladies only.

Sure, but if we think at the event overall, and to what we'll see, this new season we can expect there also the actual best juniors.
Let's not forget that Kostornaia has already take a bronze there, even if she wasn't in the, more important, competition for the senior spots.

 

[Dmitryfromsiberia]

Juniors, for example Trusova, Kostornaya, Shcherbakova can meet with senior in one competition in the championship of Russia (it is allowed from 14 years). But I guess they may not be allowed to, as there is a possibility that they will take the first three places. And this can badly affect the stability of senior leaders.

 

[sweetice]

Juniors, for example Trusova, Kostornaya, Shcherbakova can meet with senior in one competition in the championship of Russia (it is allowed from 14 years). But I guess they may not be allowed to, as there is a possibility that they will take the first three places. And this can badly affect the stability of senior leaders.

It's a national competition, i think the fed is more likely to allow their participation and then tweak their PCS accordingly.

 

[sweetice]

tweak their PCS accordingly.

And also GOE. With +5, we'll see ridiculous numbers at nationals.

PS: not to misunderstand, i was thinking also about most of the nationals.
At the Canadian national, this season, Daleman has score near 230

 

[tars]

Can I ask about Ksenia Sinitsyna? I’d never heard of her until a few months ago. But at a junior competition she got a whopping 75 in the sp!!! WOW!!!

She was wowed as well.

 

[SnowWhite]

I was bored today so what did I do? I thought about Russian Nationals and Russian Junior Nationals, of course!
I'm really excited for junior nationals, and here's why:
ALL THE WONDERFUL SKATERS!!!

It'll be a really wonderful event. There's so much talent. And before that, lots of great events, including the JGPF. Hopefully we get an event at least as good as this seasons's, if not even better.

 

[moriel]

And also GOE. With +5, we'll see ridiculous numbers at nationals.

PS: not to misunderstand, i was thinking also about most of the nationals.
At the Canadian national, this season, Daleman has score near 230

I kinda waiting for ladies to hit 300 soon with the new scores.
And not even nationals lols. The international judges sometimes go nuts too

 

[Elucidus]

Juniors, for example Trusova, Kostornaya, Shcherbakova can meet with senior in one competition in the championship of Russia (it is allowed from 14 years). But I guess they may not be allowed to, as there is a possibility that they will take the first three places. And this can badly affect the stability of senior leaders.

Its a national competition, i think the fed is more likely to allow their participation and then tweak their PCS accordingly.

And also GOE. With +5, we'll see ridiculous numbers at nationals.

Well, maybe judges would try to do it, but.. it can be surprisingly hard I mean - don't forget that RusNat is senior-level competition - therefore all juniors there will compete under senior rules. It means 3 things:
1) senior PCS boost
2) extra choreo element in FP
2) quads and 3A are allowed in SP

So - let's say Trusova or Kostornaya will land a quad and 3A in SP and 2 quads and 3A in FP (and I am even presenting here rather modest variant).. with such TES in doesn't even matter if there will be only 60+ PCS or +0 GOE No amount of overscoring will help her senior rivals with only triples to overcome this monstrosity

 

[lavenderblossom]

Well, maybe judges would try to do it, but.. it can be surprisingly hard I mean - don't forget that RusNat is senior-level competition - therefore all juniors there will compete under senior rules. It means 3 things:
1) senior PCS boost
2) extra choreo element in FP
2) quads and 3A are allowed in SP

So - let's say Trusova or Kostornaya will land a quad and 3A in SP and 2 quads and 3A in FP (and I am even presenting here rather modest variant).. with such TES in doesn't even matter if there will be only 60+ PCS or +0 GOE No amount of overscoring will help her senior rivals with only triples to overcome this monstrosity

I don't think quads are allowed in SP for senior ladies, unless RusNats has different rules. 3A, yes.

 

[Tulipstar]

A year ago, I was just finding out about Anna Shcherbakova and her doing the easier quads in practice. Now we have two girls jumping 4Lz in practice and Sasha has landed two quads in an international program. What's next? 4A? It's amazing what they do.