2018-19 Russian Ladies' figure skating

[Azikin]

According to her latest statements, she can't see her success without Eteri.

That's hardly surprising..

 

[leoleo]

Perhaps, but for that you have to pay with their health.

is this about Yulia's eating disorder again? which other eteri student paid with their health for success? every single coach has skaters who get injured all the time. Polina's disease is a genetic so nothing to do with eteri, we have no idea what Tarakanova's health issues are. so who are you talking about?

 

[ejnsofi]

is this about Yulia's eating disorder again? which other eteri student paid with their health for success? every single coach has skaters who get injured all the time. Polina's disease is a genetic so nothing to do with eteri, we have no idea what Tarakanova's health issues are. so who are you talking about?

According to Polina's mother there is no genetic disorder

 

[kwanatic]

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For me, those are the reasons to suspect Buianova is poaching.

What you say makes a lot of sense. The only thing I'd say is that someone can't be poached unless they agree to be poached.

Someone can make a great offer and lots of promises but, ultimately, it's up to that person whether they decide to leave or not. I know the Rus Fed is very involved but can/would they force someone to leave to go to another coach?

Poaching or not, it really appears as though all of the older skaters are leaving Eteri. I suppose Elizabet is the exception. She's the oldest skater in the group out of the girls at 18 years old but she still has the body of a 12 or 13 year old so...

 

[russianfan]

Sounds plausible! It would be wonderful if she could defend her title. But why do you say Bratislava champion will win JGPF?

sort of a tradition previous season just confirmed the rule

interesting fact: in previous 5 years, JGPF has been won by the girl who medaled at first JGP event:
2012-2013 Elena Radionova
2013-2014 Maria Sotskova
2014-2015 Evgenia Medvedeva
2015-2016 Polina Tsurskaya
2016-2017 Alina Zagitova

2017-2018 Alexandra Trusova?

Do you have a link?

Edit: ok, i found her dress.
https://www.avito.ru/moskva/sport_i_otdyh/plate_dlya_figurnogo_kataniya_1294395932

But I´am not so sure this time..:think:

and the second one is also there https://www.avito.ru/moskva/sport_i_otdyh/plate_dlya_figurnogo_kataniya_1288498299

My guess is that probably all of those who changed coaches now had already been thinking about it earlier, at least unconciously. When Medvedeva changed, she started some kind of chain reaction because after that, the other ones probably felt the legitimization to change also. They felt approved with their feelings. Feel free to disagree. It's just what I think could have happened.

not everything has to revolve around Medvedeva, you know.. i know it's hard to admit

 

[lbamda]

In Eteri's (VKontakte) group, have ceased to publish information on Dasha, today there was a lot of information, haven't published anything. On the last unconfirmed rumors of Buyanova hasn't taken Dasha - perhaps it is about Turenko St. Petersburg (therefore the room, for letting was freed).

 

[madison]

In Eteri's (VKontakte) group, have ceased to publish information on Dasha, today there was a lot of information, haven't published anything. On the last unconfirmed rumors of Buyanova hasn't taken Dasha - perhaps it is about Turenko St. Petersburg (therefore the room, for letting was freed).

What do the rumors say about Darya's reasons of leaving Eteri?

 

[lbamda]

I think too what was with Polina and Nastya - Eteri didn't suit the weight of sportswomen, but not all parents agree to "technology of the closed mouth". The next "suitcase without handle"(terminology from Sambo-70 ice) is turned out .

 

[madison]

I think too what was with Polina and Nastya - Eteri didn't suit the weight of sportswomen, but not all parents agree to "technology of the closed mouth". The next "suitcase without handle"(terminology from Sambo-70 ice) is turned out .

Uff, I'm sorry for Darya .... honestly, i thought she will have a good chance next season, as Eteri's no 2 in seniors. And she seemed nostalgic for the time spent in Sambo, in her last posts

 

[mat]

Too much empty speculation in connection with the transition of the girls about Eteri to other coaches. It seems to me that the first reason is different. Those who leave are talented and have healthy ambitions. They believe that coaches do not pay enough attention to them compared to those who stand out, and they can show better results. On the contrary, other coaches offer them more attention than he received from Eteri.
By the way, no wonder Buyanov is called a poacher. Eteri also brought up girls from scratch, got them from other coaches (except Medvedeva). Transitions to other coaches are not uncommon.

 

[TruMan]

- Panenkova has left from Eteri. Now at Buyanova. P.S. Look at Dasha's Instargam.
- these rumours usually turn out to be right. ... is Buyanova handing out free Olympic Medals or why is everyone running to her?
- Eteri’s training methods do seem to be more applicable to juniors so far
- It’s a rumor on Russian forums and as much as I hate rumors they were all correct this off season
- rusfed is doing a very bad job... they poach her[Etery] skaters as soon as they achieve anything
- Eteri is not taking it [what happened b/w Eteri and medvedeva] well and is lashing out on her skaters
- it's without a doubt a CSKA job to kill off Eteri's career. most likely Dasha is done. Eteri's most likely a hard to deal with after what Zhenya has done.
- There must be something for so many to leave... about Eteri's personality
- the russian figure skating community pays to much attention to politiking and not so much to the sport itself
- ... there is this evil plan of Buyanova and the fed to lure skaters away from Eteri. ...they want to leave her... and Buyanova smiles at them
- all of those who changed coaches... had already been thinking about it earlier... unconciously
- rumors... leave Eteri with only 2 seniors... not seeing Eteri girls sweep almost all medals in competition
- I think Medvedeva set an example... what would stop others to do the same?
- Dasha is very much entitled... I don‘t think you just change your coach if you... are happy on a personal level
- Zhenya leaving had some part in... left anyway (I think Polina was always going to leave tbh)
- different skaters with different background move away because of same political move from the fed that dislike Eteri...
- how big of a role Zhenya would play in the other girls decisions to leave
- Eteri so deeply wounded by Medvedeva that she is insufferable... some girls can't take it anymore
- maybe Eteri herself didn't want to work with Panenkova anymore? It won't be the first time that she decides to throw some of her students out.
- ... "everybody is leaving evil eteri"...
- even Zhenya too, asking what it was like switching coaches and get her advice about being unhappy in their current situation. I’m worried about the pressure this puts on Alina and how Eteri will treat her now.
- I do believe that, in general, the level of games and intrigues in the Russian figure skating is very high
- Buyanova.. has far more political clout
- It's true that politics play a role in Russian FS more than they do in other countries
- Eteri wants to focus on her 3 phenoms on the junior level... skaters are flocking from Eteri
- Buianova is known to dislike Eteri. For me, those are the reasons to suspect Buianova is poaching
- I'm curious about Kostornaya... any news about her? i think she'll be the next to leave Eteri
- Kostornaia will definitely leave Eteri if she doesn’t make the junior worlds team... Dudakov and Daniil will leave with Zagi, Scherbie and possibly Trusova
- Eteri... doesn't work for everyone, just like any other coach[???].
- Daniil is still very young and new on the market[4 years with TT, about 20 J/S G/S/B SP/FS at OG/W/E/GPF/RusNaths]
- all these girls are leaving because of Eteri
- Daniil... very close with Anna and Alina especially[?] and if they ever left, I wonder if he would follow?
- Polina's disease is a genetic
- According to Polina's mother there is no genetic disorder
- I know the Rus Fed is very involved... force someone to leave to go to another coach? Elizabet... 's the oldest skater... still has the body of a 12 or 13 year old[what parts? eyes, hands, ears?]
- Eteri didn't suit the weight... not all parents agree to "technology of the closed mouth"
- Those who leave[Etery] are talented and have healthy ambitions [as always, Eteri remained with the worst and non-ambitious]

what was that? ... the world will never be the same for me! do I have the strength to Shine a ray of kindness into the swamp?

 

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P.S. if so many skaters can leave their coachs ... why not Pogo

Pogo just got married and I doubt she will return to competitive skating no matter how much we all loved her.

 

[Fluture]

- Panenkova has left from Eteri. Now at Buyanova. P.S. Look at Dasha's Instargam.
- these rumours usually turn out to be right. ... is Buyanova handing out free Olympic Medals or why is everyone running to her?
- Eteri’s training methods do seem to be more applicable to juniors so far
- It’s a rumor on Russian forums and as much as I hate rumors they were all correct this off season
- rusfed is doing a very bad job... they poach her[Etery] skaters as soon as they achieve anything
- Eteri is not taking it [what happened b/w Eteri and medvedeva] well and is lashing out on her skaters
- it's without a doubt a CSKA job to kill off Eteri's career. most likely Dasha is done. Eteri's most likely a hard to deal with after what Zhenya has done.
- There must be something for so many to leave... about Eteri's personality
- the russian figure skating community pays to much attention to politiking and not so much to the sport itself
- ... there is this evil plan of Buyanova and the fed to lure skaters away from Eteri. ...they want to leave her... and Buyanova smiles at them
- all of those who changed coaches... had already been thinking about it earlier... unconciously
- rumors... leave Eteri with only 2 seniors... not seeing Eteri girls sweep almost all medals in competition
- I think Medvedeva set an example... what would stop others to do the same?
- Dasha is very much entitled... I don‘t think you just change your coach if you... are happy on a personal level
- Zhenya leaving had some part in... left anyway (I think Polina was always going to leave tbh)
- different skaters with different background move away because of same political move from the fed that dislike Eteri...
- how big of a role Zhenya would play in the other girls decisions to leave
- Eteri so deeply wounded by Medvedeva that she is insufferable... some girls can't take it anymore
- maybe Eteri herself didn't want to work with Panenkova anymore? It won't be the first time that she decides to throw some of her students out.
- ... "everybody is leaving evil eteri"...
- even Zhenya too, asking what it was like switching coaches and get her advice about being unhappy in their current situation. I’m worried about the pressure this puts on Alina and how Eteri will treat her now.
- I do believe that, in general, the level of games and intrigues in the Russian figure skating is very high
- Buyanova.. has far more political clout
- It's true that politics play a role in Russian FS more than they do in other countries
- Eteri wants to focus on her 3 phenoms on the junior level... skaters are flocking from Eteri
- Buianova is known to dislike Eteri. For me, those are the reasons to suspect Buianova is poaching
- I'm curious about Kostornaya... any news about her? i think she'll be the next to leave Eteri
- Kostornaia will definitely leave Eteri if she doesn’t make the junior worlds team... Dudakov and Daniil will leave with Zagi, Scherbie and possibly Trusova
- Eteri... doesn't work for everyone, just like any other coach[???].
- Daniil is still very young and new on the market[4 years with TT, about 20 J/S G/S/B SP/FS at OG/W/E/GPF/RusNaths]
- all these girls are leaving because of Eteri
- Daniil... very close with Anna and Alina especially[?] and if they ever left, I wonder if he would follow?
- Polina's disease is a genetic
- According to Polina's mother there is no genetic disorder
- I know the Rus Fed is very involved... force someone to leave to go to another coach? Elizabet... 's the oldest skater... still has the body of a 12 or 13 year old[what parts? eyes, hands, ears?]
- Eteri didn't suit the weight... not all parents agree to "technology of the closed mouth"
- Those who leave[Etery] are talented and have healthy ambitions [as always, Eteri remained with the worst and non-ambitious]

what was that? ... the world will never be the same for me! do I have the strength to Shine a ray of kindness into the swamp?

I‘m really sorry but if you want to quote, then please quote the whole thing and not only half sentences completely out of context. I mean, yes, we‘re heavily speculating right now but it‘s more us being curious. We don‘t hate Eteri if you think that we just want to know what‘s going on there. Doesn‘t it seem weird to you that everybody‘s suddenly leaving a coach as successful as her? It might be nothing but it might be something and if that‘s the case people are always. going to speculate. Natural human behavior, I guess. Not to say that it’s good. We just can’t help it.

 

[glassanimal]

Well, if poaching’s the grand conspiracy here instead of personal choice, then Eteri must be the queen of poaching, since the majority of her students are recent acquisitions. Only Medvedevaa was successfully brought up from young childhood to adulthood under her.

 

[leoleo]

I‘m really sorry but if you want to quote, then please quote the whole thing and not only half sentences completely out of context. I mean, yes, we‘re heavily speculating right now but it‘s more us being curious. We don‘t hate Eteri if you think that we just want to know what‘s going on there. Doesn‘t it seem weird to you that everybody‘s suddenly leaving a coach as successful as her? It might be nothing but it might be something and if that‘s the case people are always. going to speculate. Natural human behavior, I guess. Not to say that it’s good. We just can’t help it.

ignore him lmao he's always doing weird things in this thread, most of the time people just ignore him

 

[leoleo]

According to Polina's mother there is no genetic disorder

I have seen many reports about her having a genetic disease so i guess i was wrong. Still do we know what she's suffering from and how do we know it's because of Eteri? I'm all for speculating and we probably all think here that Eteri could be nicer to the skaters she coaches but who exactly paid with their health for having success under eteri? Even in Yulia's case she never pointed fingers at Eteri and said it was her fault; many other figure skaters have suffered from eating disorders (Akiko, Rippon, Daleman). All i'm saying is Eteri doesn't have a record of more injured skaters than any other coach. Hanyu gets seriously injured almost every season, Lilbet was always injured under Brian too for example

 

[drivingmissdaisy]

We are going really far with the predictions over here that's what off season does to you.
I do not know how i feel about Alina being Eteri's main focus now. I love Alina so much and i want her to do well so bad, i'm scared her being Eteri's probably only hope to bring medals home is gonna put her under too much pressure. I do not want the situation at worlds to happen to her ever again. Unless Eteri is really jesus in disguise and she miraculously brings back Lilbet's quads by next season :roll9:

I'm interested to see how that Alina/Eteri relationship progresses. In that Eteri/Evgenia/Alina documentary a lot of us watched last season, Alina seemed to be treated quite harshly by the coach. I don't know if Alina would continue to put up with that same treatment now that she has won the biggest prize in the sport. Then again, Eteri may treat her a lot better now that Alina is the star pupil, at least among the seniors.

 

[moriel]

I'm interested to see how that Alina/Eteri relationship progresses. In that Eteri/Evgenia/Alina documentary a lot of us watched last season, Alina seemed to be treated quite harshly by the coach. I don't know if Alina would continue to put up with that same treatment now that she has won the biggest prize in the sport. Then again, Eteri may treat her a lot better now that Alina is the star pupil, at least among the seniors.

Overall, this may depend on Alina's character, we don't really know what is going on there.
For example, I don know a bunch of people who tend to slack off when treated nicely (myself included), folks that will not put out 100% unless there is someone with a whip, so to say.

 

[TruMan]

Doesn‘t it seem weird to you that everybody‘s suddenly leaving a coach as successful as her? ... people are always going to speculate.

1/ quoting - I know how and in what order to put together blacks on white...
2/ in 90% of cases athletes leave the coach with the belief they have surpassed his/her ceiling. In 99% this belief is wrong
3/ Sport is a science: distances in km, height and length with cm, speed in hours and seconds, points... medals. Speculations are on a bazaar.
4/ In the "quotes" you see "natural human behavior". I - baseless accusations, malicious defamation and endless dissatisfaction with all - RusFed, Buyanova/Etery/Panova, Sambo 70 and CSKA, Zhenya, Polina, Daria, Alina, Alena, Anna, Dudakov, Daniil...

Are the Russians the only group here in respect of which all can do everything?

 

[leoleo]

I'm interested to see how Eteri and Alina's relationship changes too. now Alina knows she wanted her other favorite to win instead of her lmao, i imagine right after the whole Medogate drama it was awkward as hell. I particularly hated how Alina's name was dragged into mess that had nothing to do with her when she was probably already struggling with adjusting to being in the spotlight after her OGM.