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2018-19 Russian Ladies' figure skating

we should give Masha some time. Last season Sakamoto has a terrible first half of the season but was able to pull it together by Skate America and 4CC. This was one competition, where the score doesn’t even really count. I don’t think we should loose hope yet. Anyway, I agree with lavoix. Masha got into university this year, and she might be more focused on her future than just one figure skating season.

In Russia, however, there's always someone else to take your spot if you mess up. I have more faith in Samodurova this season than any of Buyanova's students.
 
Just for info, she joined this uni: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_Academy_of_Theatre_Arts
She studies to be a choreographer. She initially wanted to do the on ice choreo, but Tchaikovskaya is not getting new students this year, so she entered the regular ballet choreo course.

Actually, there was a very nice interview about her training, life and plans: https://rsport.ria.ru/interview/20180824/1140728499.html
Not sure if it was translated, if no, i can quickly hack it.

If your translations is better than google translate then plaese do translate it for us who dont speak russian
 
yes. Kamila is april 16 and Daria is may 22. They’re both eligible for the 2022 Olympics too, although I don’t think they’re nearly as good as our current top juniors.

Kamila is not nearly that good? Hmmm.... as much as I love our current top juniors, I think that she's absolutely amazing...
 
I didn't know the purpose of the thread was for everyone to like it. And now I know it.

Well, apparetnly pointing out that Russian media was super heavily involved in the spring power struggles (with all the evidence) is a conpiracy theory now, according to mods. With this ability to stretch out... well you better like those damn interview.
 
Kamila is not nearly that good? Hmmm.... as much as I love our current top juniors, I think that she's absolutely amazing...
As of right now, she is a very lovely skater who does not have the technical content to compete with Sasha and Anna, nor the jump quality to beat Alena, who is also superior to almost everyone in skating skill. Kamila has plenty of time to make those upgrades, but to me her jumps look low right now, and her lutz technique is swingy and awkward—honestly I think the lutz is unsustainable without a revamp in technique. I’ve yet to see her do one on a straight axis.
 
So far there has been precious little evidence of politicking on Nastya's part. And politicking doesn't actually replace skating, you still have to do the latter.

Usually those things happen around Nationals, but if these skaters can't fill the gap soon, and they perform bad all GP season i don't know how far that nonsense can go.

Not to mention Eteri can sweep the podium with Trusova-Shcherbakova-Zagitova, so the battle for these skaters is more on fighting for that 4th place that should still mean being part of the team for europeans and worlds.
 
Kamila is not nearly that good? Hmmm.... as much as I love our current top juniors, I think that she's absolutely amazing...

She is still in the process of fixing her jumps. Her is still very cautious and uncomfortable with her lutz and flip, and such preoccupation hinders her wish to perform. She is a natural artist on ice and the best spinner out of all Eteri students, but she needs to work on the technical content and consistency. She has three years to do that.
 
we should give Masha some time. Last season Sakamoto has a terrible first half of the season but was able to pull it together by Skate America and 4CC. This was one competition, where the score doesn’t even really count. I don’t think we should loose hope yet. Anyway, I agree with lavoix. Masha got into university this year, and she might be more focused on her future than just one figure skating season.
But Sotskova isn't just in poor form. She URs tons, UR'd even last season especially towards the end even though at least half of them weren't called. I really think that it's just plain regression for her, not changing form.
As of right now, she is a very lovely skater who does not have the technical content to compete with Sasha and Anna, nor the jump quality to beat Alena, who is also superior to almost everyone in skating skill. Kamila has plenty of time to make those upgrades, but to me her jumps look low right now, and her lutz technique is swingy and awkward—honestly I think the lutz is unsustainable without a revamp in technique. I’ve yet to see her do one on a straight axis.
Kamila Valieva should certainly have the jump quality to beat Alena. She has no edge problems and even assuming no 3As, her tech content should be similar - very likely better, even. She also is a skater who in my opinion has serious 3A potential. I don't think that Kostornaya is stronger than Valieva in spins or PCS.
 
yes. Kamila is april 16 and Daria is may 22. They’re both eligible for the 2022 Olympics too, although I don’t think they’re nearly as good as our current top juniors.

1. Eteri is been working with them few months only.
2. You do know Alina's story so 3 years is a lot
 
Kamila Valieva should certainly have the jump quality to beat Alena. She has no edge problems and even assuming no 3As, her tech content should be similar - very likely better, even. She also is a skater who in my opinion has serious 3A potential. I don't think that Kostornaya is stronger than Valieva in spins or PCS.

No, not yet. Kamila doesn't have edge problem at takeoff, but she has serious edge problem at landings, which is worse because flat edge could be ignored with politicking but stepouts/falls couldn't. Until she fixes that she remains inconsistent.
Kamila has better spins (better flexibility and longer legs). However, Alena is definitely a much better skater than Kamila as she has more speed and transitions.
 
No, not yet. Kamila doesn't have edge problem at takeoff, but she has serious edge problem at landings, which is worse because flat edge could be ignored with politicking but stepouts/falls couldn't. Until she fixes that she remains inconsistent.
Kamila has better spins (better flexibility and longer legs). However, Alena is definitely a much better skater than Kamila as she has more speed and transitions.
Geez, obviously not yet. Her jumps were an absolute train wreck last season. The Lutz's axis is off but that's fixable. The takeoff is quite good otherwise. They've fixed a ton of things in such a long time, before she moved to Eteri her career was in doubt and she was looking at an Anfisa Ryabova-type of a situation. I'm talking about potential for 2022 Olympics, not the absolute state right now. Valieva is almost 3 years younger than Kostornaya.
 
For those wondering about Yasmina Kadyrova, she apparently did not impress by the end of the trial period and left Eteri. So the only Eteri students we haven't seen competing yet are Maya Kromykh, Sofia Akatieva, and the youngest ones (including a girl born in 2012!)
 
https://www.instagram.com/p/BowEMmRBxzM/?utm_source=ig_share_sheet&igshid=1pomjktqxq8a0

3Lz-3Lo! Nastya is really looking to improve her technical content! The combo looks promising but I think she needs to rotate a bit faster, she‘s getting a lot of height but not enough speed.
It appears that Nastya does not have her legs quite as close together as she should on the 3Lz part of the 3Lz-3Lo in order to get the fast rotations.

One can see air between her knees ;)

However she generally does have better form than that.

It's hard to know what it is about that particular combination that is destabilizing her good form in the air, but we know she has it. Hopefully it will all come together soon.
 
Yeah, Tarakanova's rotation speed is certainly a bit of an issue. Her jump height is more than enough and the 3Lutz in itself is enormous but the slow rotation speed... Tsurskaya had a similar issue(though more pronounced) and now she has huge UR issues. Hopefully Tarakanova's able to work on it. That -3Lo is slightly UR but the height is very good.
 
If Maria is attending a regular university, not online or the special university programs created for top athletes, she probably has a plan outside of figure skating for her future. Then I don't think she can be competitive any more in Russia without the necessary time dedicated to training.

I noticed even with the bad showing at JO, she didn't seen upset at all, which might mean she was expecting that, due to the lack of training.
Well, does that mean she is in the process of retiring? I seriously don't see anyone can handle regular college and be a top skater in today's field. Shizuka Arakawa did that but that was many years ago.

I have to disagree, she looked very unhappy to me. https://youtu.be/tAY9ScX4LoI?t=70

Given that all Buyanova's ladies are struggling so far, not just with jumps but also levels, I don't think Maria's problems are completely down to a lack of effort to prepare on her part. They need more help than what Buyanova can give them. But there's not many other coaches they can go to.
 
Yeah, Tarakanova's rotation speed is certainly a bit of an issue. Her jump height is more than enough and the 3Lutz in itself is enormous but the slow rotation speed... Tsurskaya had a similar issue(though more pronounced) and now she has huge UR issues. Hopefully Tarakanova's able to work on it. That -3Lo is slightly UR but the height is very good.

When skaters start to try quads sometimes their triple speed on jumps begin to decelerate a bit. It isn’t a bad thing honestly. She’s in good hands and to be honest...that 3z-3lo is clean and would likely get positive if not generous GOE. She’s still regaining her full strength but she’s getting there and she has had one of the best Lutz jumps in the past. I see nothing to fret about over this particular clip. You guys get so nitpicky on this thread. :laugh2:

This is an improvement from earlier in the season and her trajectory is trending up IMO. It’s all very encouraging!
 
Yeah, Tarakanova's rotation speed is certainly a bit of an issue. Her jump height is more than enough and the 3Lutz in itself is enormous but the slow rotation speed... Tsurskaya had a similar issue(though more pronounced) and now she has huge UR issues. Hopefully Tarakanova's able to work on it. That -3Lo is slightly UR but the height is very good.
There is a video of Plushenko telling Nastya precisely that - that she needs to group tighter. Also, there is no evidence so far that Nastya will grow to 170+ cm. People keep talking about how tall she is but in reality she is quite a bit shorter than 159 cm Tarusina.
 
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