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That's because she hasn't posted anything yet but she said she will soon.
2018-19 Russian Ladies' figure skating
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That's because she hasn't posted anything yet but she said she will soon.
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I am sure she will.
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I agree with your point. However this time it will be almost impossible for judges to manipulate the scores in a way that would give Gubanova advantage over any of 3A skater without completely compromising themselves. The gap in abilities is too big. The only way I see it's possible is direct order from coaches council/federation to abandon their qualification principles and put Gubanova in the junior team ignoring her place at jrnats - and that they definitely wouldn't want to do. So I hope this time Eteri will prevail and we will see full russian podium at JW at last
Oh yeah I think so too. My reply was to the comment that talked about Tarakanova's chances who doesn't have a quad of 3A. I think the fed would send Gubanova before they send her.
It's true, I missed the GP/JGP season last year.
But as you say, the dynamic was and is broader.
Tarakanova was with another coach previously, who had her own view about who was most promising....
The federation is unlikely to send 3 from one school, so rank within a school is important.
And demonstrating that a skater deserves consideration by a clean skate at Nationals is also a factor.
But a solid JGP placement and a good showing at Nationals will put Tarakanova into the mix.
And I also believe that there is a great deal of 'counting chickens before they hatch' going on in prognostications for other Juniors.
The JGP Final will be held in Vancouver. When has there been a less than strict/picky tech panel at an event in Canada in recent years?
And scoring under the new system has become generally tougher and less generous in both GOE and PCS since the end of the JGP series.
We may see more UR calls, and lower levels on spins and steps.
Tarakanova's strengths may give her an edge there.
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did Daria WD from her challenger?
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Yes, she WD from Inge Solar today.
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Judging on Canadian soil is always out for blood. Skate Canada has always had one of the strictest judging panels.
This year is no different, we've seen it at ACI with the very low GOE's and PCs for some skaters. At Skate Canada they were calling a lot of URs, downgrading spins and there GOE's where more tame than other events. I mean, the tech panel at SCI gave Evgenia an edge call, the second one of her entire senior career.
I have no idea what to expect from the judges in Vancouver. I have a feeling they'll call some of Sasha's and Anna's quads as under even if they're barely so. What I don't want it selective judging like we saw at Skate America (or scam america as some say) and hammer certain skaters but not others. For example, if they call some of Alina's jumps as under they better call Satoko's jumps as well.
I don't know, just my two cents. Thinking about the potential judging at the GPF gives me a headache.
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So, the thing there is... Sasha landed a clean quad, and 6 clean triples. Alena landed 7 clean triples. Then there's the 2T vs 2A and two two 2Ts Alena did, compared first of all to the clean quad(Alena already is losing) and the quad fall, which surely is still worth a few points. In the end, it rightfully wasn't even close. I feel like people don't realize just how strong Sasha's layout is. No other lady had done 6 triples on 3 jumping passes before. Heck, Alena doesn't even perform a 3Lz-3Lo. Actually, without the 2A zayaking changes, Sasha could have performed a quadless layout such as:
2A, 2A, 2A, 2A, 3Lz-3Lo, 3Lz-3T, 3F-1Lo-3S to put into perspective how impressive it is what she can do. Truly, even the triple jump portion of Sasha's program is more impressive than Kostornaya's...
To be honest, I'm really not agreeing with people thinking Kostornaya should be doing better with her content. She was doing -3Lo combos last spring, but has dropped them. She was doing 3A during the summer, but hasn't even been attempting it. She still does a -2T-2T combo instead of a -2T-2Lo one. Meanwhile, Anna for instance made her layout even more difficult by replacing the -2T-2Lo combo with a -1Lo-3S combo and adding a second 2A. I really don't know why people would actually want skaters to be rewarded for stagnating and not seeking to improve further...
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:agree:
Some people think that quads are only differences between Tiny Boss and other girls
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What we also don’t know is what injuries Alena has been dealing with. In hi-res photos from last weekend you can see a knee wrap under her tights in the SP. Not to mention what she was dealing with during Ostrava (unknown at this point) and obvious body changes since last season (to be expected as she is a year older than Sasha). For her it makes more sense to adjust to new body and maintain her old layout before adding anything new. Last weekend was the first time she looked comfortable on competition ice all season so maybe she has adjusted and will be bringing those harder elements back, if they are even worth it with new GOE rules.
Either way, it will be super disappointing if politics plays a role in one of the 3A not going to jr worlds. Wonder if the fed will prioritize a Russian sweep over their distaste for having all skaters from Eteri group. If not, Ye-lim might sneak in for a bronze.
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Serafima should update her ISU bio as it still lists Plushenko as her coach.
Absolutely this. It may not look the prettiest, but Sasha is essentially competing a strong men’s layout (minus 3As) against a non-optimal ladies layout. The technical difference is so vast that a mistake-filled program can still beat a perfectly executed skate from Alena, and it’s the correct outcome.
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Tarusina just move up to #16 in SB this season, she is very likely to be in top 24 and guaranteed a GP
so there will be
1. Zagitova
2. Trusova
3. Tuktamysheva
4. Shcherbakova
5. Medvedeva
6. Kostornaia
7. Tarusina
8. Samodurova
9. Konstantinova
10. Leonova
Leonova might not end up in top 24 SB though since she is currently #21 since Gubanova and Guliakova who is assigned to CS might sneak up and the likes of Higuchi, Daleman, Dabin, and we don't know if all 3A will move up to seniors. Also even if Sotskova is out of top 24 SB she still
guaranteed to get 1 based on her WS, so it is very likely some skater got 1 GP.
so there will be
1. Zagitova
2. Trusova
3. Tuktamysheva
4. Shcherbakova
5. Medvedeva
6. Kostornaia
7. Tarusina
8. Samodurova
9. Konstantinova
10. Leonova
Leonova might not end up in top 24 SB though since she is currently #21 since Gubanova and Guliakova who is assigned to CS might sneak up and the likes of Higuchi, Daleman, Dabin, and we don't know if all 3A will move up to seniors. Also even if Sotskova is out of top 24 SB she still
guaranteed to get 1 based on her WS, so it is very likely some skater got 1 GP.
Very happy for her success this year. Literally every federation except 2 would be tripping over themselves to have someone of her caliber and consistency represent them. It’s a shame she doesn’t get even more international exposure.
I think Russian skaters need to switch nationalities.
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Which ones? Unless the International skating Union changes their rules some of the girls from Russia may have to gain dual citizenship with another country outside of Russia to fulfill their dreams.
That's what I meant, isn't that what happened with the Russian ice dancers now representing Georgia?
If I was Serafima for instance, and I want my Olympic hopes to come true, I'd just go to Azerbaijan. I know everyone will disagree with me and say "but you have no ties to that country/it's not right, blah blah" but honestly, if I'm an athlete with a dream and I know I can't make it happen in my home country because of politics, too many talented skaters, lack of funding, I'd just swap nationalities.
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Why did she leave Plush and switched to Gubanova's former coach?
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