2018-19 Russian Ladies' figure skating
- Thread starter Spirals for Miles
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^it is not surprising. They did that with Zhenya last year. She had massive PCS advantage until she didn't.
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The difference between Kihira and Zagitova in PCS is only a difference of 0.68 ... are we in Canada or Japan?
Zhenya never lost her PCS last year (in fact, it kept on going up, competition to competition), but Alina's went up last year. But to see Alina get under 36 PCS without a mistake, that is definitely a significant decrease. I don't have a problem with Rika's PCS going up, she deserved it here, but Alina's score being around 1.5 points less than what I was expect was puzzling. AFAIK, she skated the same way she did at Nebelhorn and Cup of Russia.
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I stayed up for nearly 48 hours to watch Yulia at the 2014 WC. I’m afraid to reread those threads in the archive because I became rather loopy and probably began riffling off more nonsense than I usually do
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That thread is fun
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Well, while I completely agree that Kihira was grossly overscored for her simple and rather juniorish skating in PCS which eclipsed even "PCS Queen" Satoko (!) - they overlooked Alina's 3Lz-3Lo UR by new rules. So in the end difference between their scores would be mostly the same if they were judged fairly.
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No, I meant the PCS difference between Zhenya and Alina were big at the beginning and then Alina's PCS skyrocketed to almost Zhenya's level at the Olys.
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That surprised and frustrated me too. For all the complaints there were about Alina and Evgenia's PCS increasing over the past seasons I don't see the same kind of complaints being made about Rika's PCS which shot up with one clean skate. Where are the "artistry defenders" now when a clean 3A instead of backloading gives you the upper edge?
What he's saying is that skaters don't lose PCS when continuing to put out clean programs of the same difficulty level as before, which is what happened here.
Don't worry, the 3As will all get the same immediate PCS boost with a couple clean skates next year. PCS is just an indication of flavor of the month now.
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Everyone feels uncomfortable about how he gets his world record. If Zagitova deserved to receive 70 points, perfect, but Kihira did not deserve more than 78 points.
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Rika deserved those PCs. Also maybe you should pay attention to the competitions, because the reason why Rika's PCs rose compared to her other SPs is quite simple: she skated it clean for the first time this season. All the other times she messed up her Axel etc. and therefore could not get high PCs from the judges.
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Alina's PCS at Helsinki was 35.77. At Rostelecom, it was 37.25 (but it was on home ice). She has received PCS below 36 is what I'm saying. And the difference was not that atrocious. If she got 33 or 34 suddenly, then that is atrocious. But she's still at the high end of 35s. And received the highest PCS of the field.
Idk, but Alina seemed tired, maybe because of jet lag or nerves because of Rika's results. She was great here but you know, not as sharp is she was at Rostelecom SP. Her 3lz-3lo and 2A landings were little scratchy here.
And at the time there was no Rika Kihira to challenge Alina so I get that her PCS would be high as compared to the field.
Rika's PCS shot up. But her performance was also great. And between Alina and Rika, they both deserve their scores as no one is really better than the other in the components. But if you ask me, I would give them both 34 PCS.
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Well now I would update my list.
Biggest laughing slocks in the history of female fs
1. Rika's goe here
2. Rika's pcs here
3. Costner's pcs of free on Europeans 2018
Biggest laughing slocks in the history of female fs
1. Rika's goe here
2. Rika's pcs here
3. Costner's pcs of free on Europeans 2018
Oh please, Alina did not get dropped by the judges, she was visibly nervous and focussed on jumps not or performance. I'm fine with her not getting 9+, as should be any reasonable fan.
My 2 Alena's were amazing <3
Kanysheva finally got good scores and she will dominate jgp next season!!
Everyone that gets GPs should move up to Seniors, why not...
My 2 Alena's were amazing <3
Kanysheva finally got good scores and she will dominate jgp next season!!
Everyone that gets GPs should move up to Seniors, why not...
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This thread is so toxic. Rika put down a clean 3A, clean (and great) combo & solo jump, great spins, adequate skating skills, etc. Of course someone with those qualities scores well. There's no shame in Alina being second to her and there's no reason to degrade her or her performance.
People in this very thread (rightfully) complain about how Alina was unfairly treated by fans (and media) last year because she came onto seniors with great technical skills and good performances therefore her scores rose and she got hate for it- yet you're doing the same thing to another skater in the exact same situation. Don't be a part of the problem.
Anyway, Alina did great and still got a great score (only herself and Rika have scored higher this season) and she seems to be in good condition so anything could happen in the FS.
People in this very thread (rightfully) complain about how Alina was unfairly treated by fans (and media) last year because she came onto seniors with great technical skills and good performances therefore her scores rose and she got hate for it- yet you're doing the same thing to another skater in the exact same situation. Don't be a part of the problem.
Anyway, Alina did great and still got a great score (only herself and Rika have scored higher this season) and she seems to be in good condition so anything could happen in the FS.
even if this competition in japan they will not overscore her this much i swear
In Helsinki Alina made a major mistake, which is why she got under 36. She skated clean here. And skater's PCS usually go up at the GPF. I would have expected Alina's PCS to be around 37.5. In fact had Rika skated poorly, I think that's what Alina would have gotten.
Rika obviously deserved a higher PCS, she was great, but her program was the same at GPFrance other than a nice triple axel. That is not worth 3 points in PCS. I would have expected her to get around 33.5-34.
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