- Nov 12, 2011
i have to admit i've had the same thoughts...
it's one thing to be 100% in shape, but a totally different thing when you're still trying to work your way back. i hope she isn't discouraged and will pick up where she left off.
if theres one thing we know, it's that Gracie is the one we can count on to get back up. she is the most resilient of all
Amber Glenn is back on the ice again.
It must be nice to step on the ice after two months and land a 3F-3T in your first training session. Hopefully everyone gets their jumps back just as fast.
Amber Glenn is back on the ice again.
What exactly did Alysa Liu tweet that’s got some people harassing her? I can’t find anything. What’s going on?
And how does Karen Chen have ice on the floor in her home??
I obviously have too much time on my hands, but why is it that Starr Andrews always has custom made costumes by Lisa McKinnon (super expensive) but I hear so much chatter that she can’t afford a better choreographer and coach? I’m confused. I’d actually rather have her go to a top tier coach instead of buying expensive costumes, but I’m not in control of her budget.
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I think Gracie is trying hard but most resilient I am not so or at least she should share that honour Nothing against Gracie and I hope she will succeed whatever that means but she also had the most help. There are probably other skaters who wanted to do a come back but did not get the support. Despite Gracie's fall from grace so to speak or down the world and american ladder she has had great financial support, public support emotionally and financially, sponsors etc. Not saying it is isn't deserved but many a skater with talent does not have such support to make dreams or comebacks more likely to happen. I hope we see Gracie and GAbby Daleman duke it with their glorious spirit and jumps.
Why does Starr have custom made costumes that are made by Lisa? Probably because her mom, coaches, and Starr herself love the quality and designs set forth by Lisa. To merge design with the selected music is essential to her team. And we like her work! To Bluediamonds09 and everyone else that want to know why Starr have the same coaches? Let me set the record straight. Every elite coach is not a guarantee that a student will make it to the top of the food chain. What may work for someone else, may not necessarily work for Starr. Many coaches have different techniques. Two styles blended together can either ruin a student , or help them become successful. I have watched and could mention many other talented athletes that “run to the hill” approach on choosing top of the food chain coaches that are presently nowhere to be found, or simply plagued with injuries. It’s a gambled risk either way. We love our coaching team! We have added Frank Carroll as a consultant toward the end of last season which showed an added promise as well. Looking at Starr’s track record and what she’s achieved within the past four years, I personally feel she’s progressive. Maybe not on the level of what “the public” expects, but on a level that will give her longevity in the sport where most girls have shorter shelf lives. She is truly the story of the turtle and the rabbit. Another factor, Withstanding puberty with a 20 pound weight gain was also extremely difficult from December 2017 through 2018-2019 season. Her underrotations and inconsistency reflected that. Starr is also tiny. You cannot pound a body frame weighing under 100 pounds with hours and hours a day of training without raising the risk for injury.
Starr is an amazing human being who has beat the odds of living in a difficult climate, being less than 1% of African descent in figure skating, all while traveling to competitions. I believe she will metamorphosize into that beautiful butterfly, peaking at the right time. With the current pandemic, although tortuous and scary, it has allowed these young bodies to rest, reflect, and be thankful for their experiences and hopefully return stronger and excited of the sport we all love so much, figure skating!!
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Personally, I already feel that this year the philosophy of patient, steady work shows beautifully in Starr's performances. And it's clear that she has invested in being an artist in the sport we all love so much. (1) Longevity, so that she can create a body of work (and so that we fans can enjoy her longer) and (2)progressing in expressiveness, as a performer ... those two values are more important to me than whether someone is seen as a so-called "gold medal contender" or whatever. And no one can predict ... those qualities of Starr, plus never quitting, could result in results that no one can predict now. History proves it: Ashley Wagner earned her longevity, owns a gorgeous, irreplaceable body of work, and grew as an artist and performer. Plus, she's still the only ladies' World Medalist that the US has, since Kwan/Cohen/Meissner era.
I think it will be interesting to see how Starr does now that she's a fulltime Senior. I've always enjoyed her skating but, I still see her in 4th position. Alysa, Mariah, and Bradie have the tech and performance skills to keep them ahead of Starr unless she makes some serious changes. The fact that she is older than Alysa makes me think her goal should be a podium finish which would be amazing.
My mind has been sticking on an idea, and you've given me a good opportunity, mrrice! So, every time I hear a Russian skater asked what their goal/goals are, whether they're single skaters or pairs, they say their only goal is to skate as well as they can. And if pressed, I've heard some say that they're not thinking of (that year's) Worlds, or Olympics. They say they're only focusing on performing as well as they can for the competition at hand.
It's not only the Russian skaters who respond to the question that way, but I notice many seem to have been taught to respond that way. Even though they might say every athlete wants to do what they see others doing, and even though there's a strong emphasis on winning, not just placing. I can't help thinking that the skaters I've heard say this are benefiting from the repetition in their own heads, and hearing the repetition from coaches as well, that they just want to skate their best. Another example: that's what Charlie White has said, that he always tried to think of doing what he could control, skating as well as he could, and letting the chips fall where they may.
Well, maybe it's just a personal choice. And maybe I relate more to the idea of "perform my best" than to set a goal and then be disappointed if I did well but didn't meet that specific goal. I remember hearing Gracie Gold say in an interview in late 2015 that she wanted to win Worlds 2016 in Boston, and that if she finished 4th she'd consider it a failure. That comment of hers has haunted me.
So, if anyone has thoughts? I'd be interested in hearing them.
i have noticed this as well especially with Russian skaters. i think it puts things into a much more realistic and doable perspective than risking not meeting your goal of winning/placing, and considering it a failure.
it is much more productive to focus on what you can control than what you can't.
honestly i wish this would have understood this better as a competitor.
As a figure skating competitor? Why do you think so many skaters do set a goal, then? Is it a style of coaching that says that's the best way to get results? I understand that it's good to have something to aim for. But I wonder if the damage to confidence makes it a risky proposition.
I'm so glad you answered and gave your perspective. I can relate to this in other aspects of life, but I've never been a figure skater.