2019-20 U.S. Ladies Figure Skating

crazydreamer

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Poor Gracie. All that hard work for the comeback and now with the quarantine it's probably like 20 steps back. Then again, at least everyone else is likely in the same position.
 

macy

you should see her in a crown
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Poor Gracie. All that hard work for the comeback and now with the quarantine it's probably like 20 steps back. Then again, at least everyone else is likely in the same position.

i have to admit i've had the same thoughts...

it's one thing to be 100% in shape, but a totally different thing when you're still trying to work your way back. i hope she isn't discouraged and will pick up where she left off.

if theres one thing we know, it's that Gracie is the one we can count on to get back up. she is the most resilient of all :)
 

mrrice

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:eek:topic:

I was bored today so I was watching some skating videos and I came across Samantha Cesario. She skated well and made the final flight. Does anyone know what she is up to these days? Shows, Disney, Knott's, or maybe a cruise ship?
 

el henry

Fangirl of men’s spirals and split jumps
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Sammi Cesario. Best.Carmen. Ever.

You made me curious, Mr Rice, so I found her Instagram:

https://www.instagram.com/sammi.kramer/

She married last May and her bio says figure skating coach, but I couldn't tell what rink. She also has an Etsy where she sells handcrafted hair bows and evidently is located in Long Island.

And has an adorable little dog:)
 
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AshWagsFan

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:eek:topic:

I was bored today so I was watching some skating videos and I came across Samantha Cesario. She skated well and made the final flight. Does anyone know what she is up to these days? Shows, Disney, Knott's, or maybe a cruise ship?

She got married recently, but she also lost her father in 2017. Now she coaches with Mary Lynn Gelderman in Long Island. I miss Sam, she was one of my favorites in the US during that time!!
 

drivingmissdaisy

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Poor Gracie. All that hard work for the comeback and now with the quarantine it's probably like 20 steps back. Then again, at least everyone else is likely in the same position.

At least Gracie did get her jumps back once already (although without nearly the same consistency), so she knows she can do it again. I'm actually more concerned about the younger talents whose bodies are changing while also missing the training time required to modify their technique to suit their growth. If Gracie is staying fit, I think she'll be able to pick up where she left of rather quickly.
 

mrrice

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i have to admit i've had the same thoughts...

it's one thing to be 100% in shape, but a totally different thing when you're still trying to work your way back. i hope she isn't discouraged and will pick up where she left off.

if theres one thing we know, it's that Gracie is the one we can count on to get back up. she is the most resilient of all :)

I love this comment!!
 

MarinHondas

Final Flight
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It must be nice to step on the ice after two months and land a 3F-3T in your first training session. Hopefully everyone gets their jumps back just as fast.

I think as long as skaters are doing proper off ice training, jumps shouldn’t be toooo difficult to get back. It might feel funky at first but you don’t lose years of training just from being off the ice for 2 or 3 months. The biggest issue would be running programs I think, because it’s rather difficult to replicate this off ice. I doubt there will be a GP season though, so :shrug:
 

Toshsk8

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Aug 12, 2014
What exactly did Alysa Liu tweet that’s got some people harassing her? I can’t find anything. What’s going on?

And how does Karen Chen have ice on the floor in her home??

I obviously have too much time on my hands, but why is it that Starr Andrews always has custom made costumes by Lisa McKinnon (super expensive) but I hear so much chatter that she can’t afford a better choreographer and coach? I’m confused. I’d actually rather have her go to a top tier coach instead of buying expensive costumes, but I’m not in control of her budget.


Why does Starr have custom made costumes that are made by Lisa? Probably because her mom, coaches, and Starr herself love the quality and designs set forth by Lisa. To merge design with the selected music is essential to her team. And we like her work! To Bluediamonds09 and everyone else that want to know why Starr have the same coaches? Let me set the record straight. Every elite coach is not a guarantee that a student will make it to the top of the food chain. What may work for someone else, may not necessarily work for Starr. Many coaches have different techniques. Two styles blended together can either ruin a student , or help them become successful. I have watched and could mention many other talented athletes that “run to the hill” approach on choosing top of the food chain coaches that are presently nowhere to be found, or simply plagued with injuries. It’s a gambled risk either way. We love our coaching team! We have added Frank Carroll as a consultant toward the end of last season which showed an added promise as well. Looking at Starr’s track record and what she’s achieved within the past four years, I personally feel she’s progressive. Maybe not on the level of what “the public” expects, but on a level that will give her longevity in the sport where most girls have shorter shelf lives. She is truly the story of the turtle and the rabbit. Another factor, Withstanding puberty with a 20 pound weight gain was also extremely difficult from December 2017 through 2018-2019 season. Her underrotations and inconsistency reflected that. Starr is also tiny. You cannot pound a body frame weighing under 100 pounds with hours and hours a day of training without raising the risk for injury.
Starr is an amazing human being who has beat the odds of living in a difficult climate, being less than 1% of African descent in figure skating, all while traveling to competitions. I believe she will metamorphosize into that beautiful butterfly, peaking at the right time. With the current pandemic, although tortuous and scary, it has allowed these young bodies to rest, reflect, and be thankful for their experiences and hopefully return stronger and excited of the sport we all love so much, figure skating!!
 

mrrice

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Normally, this would be off topic but, since we're not getting any live skating I was wondering if there are links that show Bradie or Mariah training on or off ice.
 

Skater Boy

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I love this comment!!

I think Gracie is trying hard but most resilient I am not so or at least she should share that honour Nothing against Gracie and I hope she will succeed whatever that means but she also had the most help. There are probably other skaters who wanted to do a come back but did not get the support. Despite Gracie's fall from grace so to speak or down the world and american ladder she has had great financial support, public support emotionally and financially, sponsors etc. Not saying it is isn't deserved but many a skater with talent does not have such support to make dreams or comebacks more likely to happen. I hope we see Gracie and GAbby Daleman duke it with their glorious spirit and jumps.
 

drivingmissdaisy

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Feb 17, 2010
I think Gracie is trying hard but most resilient I am not so or at least she should share that honour Nothing against Gracie and I hope she will succeed whatever that means but she also had the most help. There are probably other skaters who wanted to do a come back but did not get the support. Despite Gracie's fall from grace so to speak or down the world and american ladder she has had great financial support, public support emotionally and financially, sponsors etc. Not saying it is isn't deserved but many a skater with talent does not have such support to make dreams or comebacks more likely to happen. I hope we see Gracie and GAbby Daleman duke it with their glorious spirit and jumps.

Gracie will always have public support, because her story is so relatable to anyone who has struggled with eating disorders, tried to meet unrealistic expectations, etc. She's the last serious gold medal contender we've had, so that adulation is certainly earned IMO. I do think the financial support will dry up unless her results get a lot better, which is fair because anyone who doesn't advance past Nationals gets forgotten the rest of the season as the bigger events begin. She should take comfort in knowing that, even though she hasn't been training, she isn't falling further behind because her competitors have been off the ice too.
 

skylark

Gazing at a Glorious Great Lakes sunset
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Aug 12, 2014
Why does Starr have custom made costumes that are made by Lisa? Probably because her mom, coaches, and Starr herself love the quality and designs set forth by Lisa. To merge design with the selected music is essential to her team. And we like her work! To Bluediamonds09 and everyone else that want to know why Starr have the same coaches? Let me set the record straight. Every elite coach is not a guarantee that a student will make it to the top of the food chain. What may work for someone else, may not necessarily work for Starr. Many coaches have different techniques. Two styles blended together can either ruin a student , or help them become successful. I have watched and could mention many other talented athletes that “run to the hill” approach on choosing top of the food chain coaches that are presently nowhere to be found, or simply plagued with injuries. It’s a gambled risk either way. We love our coaching team! We have added Frank Carroll as a consultant toward the end of last season which showed an added promise as well. Looking at Starr’s track record and what she’s achieved within the past four years, I personally feel she’s progressive. Maybe not on the level of what “the public” expects, but on a level that will give her longevity in the sport where most girls have shorter shelf lives. She is truly the story of the turtle and the rabbit. Another factor, Withstanding puberty with a 20 pound weight gain was also extremely difficult from December 2017 through 2018-2019 season. Her underrotations and inconsistency reflected that. Starr is also tiny. You cannot pound a body frame weighing under 100 pounds with hours and hours a day of training without raising the risk for injury.
Starr is an amazing human being who has beat the odds of living in a difficult climate, being less than 1% of African descent in figure skating, all while traveling to competitions. I believe she will metamorphosize into that beautiful butterfly, peaking at the right time. With the current pandemic, although tortuous and scary, it has allowed these young bodies to rest, reflect, and be thankful for their experiences and hopefully return stronger and excited of the sport we all love so much, figure skating!!

I love this whole post!

Personally, I already feel that this year the philosophy of patient, steady work shows beautifully in Starr's performances. And it's clear that she has invested in being an artist in the sport we all love so much. (1) Longevity, so that she can create a body of work (and so that we fans can enjoy her longer) and (2)progressing in expressiveness, as a performer ... those two values are more important to me than whether someone is seen as a so-called "gold medal contender" or whatever. And no one can predict ... those qualities of Starr, plus never quitting, could result in results that no one can predict now. History proves it: Ashley Wagner earned her longevity, owns a gorgeous, irreplaceable body of work, and grew as an artist and performer. Plus, she's still the only ladies' World Medalist that the US has, since Kwan/Cohen/Meissner era.
 
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