2019-20 U.S. Ladies Figure Skating

[Bluediamonds09]

107.79 FS for Kate wang for a 164.94 total. USFS give her JGP!!!

Is a 160+ total score really good, though? I thought that to make the podium at a jgp event, a junior ladies skater needed around 175+ or more. And even that sounds really low.

 

[Canadianskatingfan]

Is a 160+ total score really good, though? I thought that to make the podium at a jgp event, a junior ladies skater needed around 175+ or more. And even that sounds really low.

164 is quite good in the USA. She is also quite young and the US has 14 jgp spots this season and 164 is one of the highest totals from a junior in the US this season

 

[natsulian]

Is a 160+ total score really good, though? I thought that to make the podium at a jgp event, a junior ladies skater needed around 175+ or more. And even that sounds really low.

Kate’s PCS is quite low (in the lower 20’s for the Short and mid to high 40’s for the Long). Also, summer competitions are not an indicator of how well a skater will do during the remainder of the season as their programs are fresh, a little bare, and they are still working on incorporating the movements, transitions, and jumps. Skaters should not peak during the summer, so if Kate can score 160+ at a summer competition, as the season progresses and she begins to peak, her score will rise with it. Kate has qualified for the ISP and will probably be given a JGP very soon. Additionally, the last time we had this many Junior girls attempting clean 3-3’s was back in 2017-2018.

Junior Ladies w/ Clean 3-3s:
- Kate Wang executed a 3Lz+3T, 3Lz+3Lo, and 3F+Eu+3S
- Isabelle Inthisone executed a 3F+3T and 3Lz+Eu+3S
- Lindsay Thorngren executed a 3Lz+3T
- Jessica Lin executed a 3T+3T
- Mia Kalin executed a 3Lz+3T and 3F+Eu+3S (Not eligible for ISP until the the 2021-2022 season)
- Isabeau Levito executed a 3Lo+3T and 3Lz+3T+2T (Not eligible for ISP until next year)
- Noella Rose executed a 3Lz+3T
- Gabriella Izzo executed a clean 3F+3Lo at Glacier Falls in her Short
- Audrey Shin executed a clean 3Lz+3T at Nationals
- Alysa Liu has many clean 3-3s
- Hanna Harrell has a 3F+3T and 3Lz+3T
- Sarah Jung has 3Lz+3T and 3F+Eu+3S

I might be missing a few, but the junior scene has not been this exciting for a very long time. Of course, jumping is not everything and we do have some very artistic and dramatic skaters such as Isabeau, Lindsay, and Isabelle.

Just for fun, here’s a list of the seniors on the International Selection Pool with clean 3-3’s:
- Starr Andrews with her 3T+3T
- Bradie Tennell with her 3Lz+3T and 3Lz+3Lo
- Mariah Bell’s iffy 3Lz+3T
- Ting Cui has a 3Lz+3T and 3F+Eu+3S
- Megan has a 3T+3T but we have not seen a clean one this year
- Pooja has a 3T+3T, 3F+3T, and 3Lz+3T
- Karen has a 3Lz+3T
- Amber Glenn has a 3F+3T
- Courtney Hicks has a 3F+3Lo

 

[nataliebunard12]

Kate’s PCS is quite low (in the lower 20’s for the Short and mid to high 40’s for the Long). Also, summer competitions are not an indicator of how well a skater will do during the remainder of the season as their programs are fresh, a little bare, and they are still working on incorporating the movements, transitions, and jumps. Skaters should not peak during the summer, so if Kate can score 160+ at a summer competition, as the season progresses and she begins to peak, her score will rise with it. Kate has qualified for the ISP and will probably be given a JGP very soon. Additionally, the last time we had this many Junior girls attempting clean 3-3’s was back in 2017-2018.

Junior Ladies w/ Clean 3-3s:
- Kate Wang executed a 3Lz+3T, 3Lz+3Lo, and 3F+Eu+3S
- Isabelle Inthisone executed a 3F+3T and 3Lz+Eu+3S
- Lindsay Thorngren executed a 3Lz+3T
- Jessica Lin executed a 3T+3T
- Mia Kalin executed a 3Lz+3T and 3F+Eu+3S (Not eligible for ISP until the the 2021-2022 season)
- Isabeau Levito executed a 3Lo+3T and 3Lz+3T+2T (Not eligible for ISP until next year)
- Noella Rose executed a 3Lz+3T
- Gabriella Izzo executed a clean 3F+3Lo at Glacier Falls in her Short
- Audrey Shin executed a clean 3Lz+3T at Nationals
- Alysa Liu has many clean 3-3s
- Hanna Harrell has a 3F+3T and 3Lz+3T

I might be missing a few, but the junior scene has not been this exciting for a very long time. Of course, jumping is not everything and we do have some very artistic and dramatic skaters such as Isabeau, Lindsay, and Isabelle.

Just for fun, here’s a list of the seniors on the International Selection Pool with clean 3-3’s:
- Starr Andrews with her 3T+3T
- Bradie Tennell with her 3Lz+3T and 3Lz+3Lo
- Mariah Bell’s iffy 3Lz+3T
- Ting Cui has a 3Lz+3T and 3F+Eu+3S
- Megan has a 3T+3T but we have not seen a clean one this year
- Pooja has a 3T+3T, 3F+3T, and 3Lz+3T
- Karen has a 3Lz+3T
- Amber Glenn has a 3F+3T
- Courtney Hicks has a 3F+3Lo

Sarah jung has clean 3Lz-3T and 3F-Ru-3S

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Kate’s PCS is quite low (in the lower 20’s for the Short and mid to high 40’s for the Long). Also, summer competitions are not an indicator of how well a skater will do during the remainder of the season as their programs are fresh, a little bare, and they are still working on incorporating the movements, transitions, and jumps. Skaters should not peak during the summer, so if Kate can score 160+ at a summer competition, as the season progresses and she begins to peak, her score will rise with it. Kate has qualified for the ISP and will probably be given a JGP very soon. Additionally, the last time we had this many Junior girls attempting clean 3-3’s was back in 2017-2018.

Junior Ladies w/ Clean 3-3s:
- Kate Wang executed a 3Lz+3T, 3Lz+3Lo, and 3F+Eu+3S
- Isabelle Inthisone executed a 3F+3T and 3Lz+Eu+3S
- Lindsay Thorngren executed a 3Lz+3T
- Jessica Lin executed a 3T+3T
- Mia Kalin executed a 3Lz+3T and 3F+Eu+3S (Not eligible for ISP until the the 2021-2022 season)
- Isabeau Levito executed a 3Lo+3T and 3Lz+3T+2T (Not eligible for ISP until next year)
- Noella Rose executed a 3Lz+3T
- Gabriella Izzo executed a clean 3F+3Lo at Glacier Falls in her Short
- Audrey Shin executed a clean 3Lz+3T at Nationals
- Alysa Liu has many clean 3-3s
- Hanna Harrell has a 3F+3T and 3Lz+3T

I might be missing a few, but the junior scene has not been this exciting for a very long time. Of course, jumping is not everything and we do have some very artistic and dramatic skaters such as Isabeau, Lindsay, and Isabelle.

Just for fun, here’s a list of the seniors on the International Selection Pool with clean 3-3’s:
- Starr Andrews with her 3T+3T
- Bradie Tennell with her 3Lz+3T and 3Lz+3Lo
- Mariah Bell’s iffy 3Lz+3T
- Ting Cui has a 3Lz+3T and 3F+Eu+3S
- Megan has a 3T+3T but we have not seen a clean one this year
- Pooja has a 3T+3T, 3F+3T, and 3Lz+3T
- Karen has a 3Lz+3T
- Amber Glenn has a 3F+3T
- Courtney Hicks has a 3F+3Lo

Sarah jung has clean 3Lz-3T and 3F-Ru-3S

She did 2 clean ones at broadmoor

 

[natsulian]

Skate Detroit - Top 4 Junior Ladies:
1. Kate Wang, 164.92 - 3Lz, 3F, 2A, 3Lz+3Lo / 3F+Eu+3S, 3T, and 2A+2T (Part of the Free - https://www.instagram.com/p/B0bqzMPHTDN/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link)
2. Jessica Lin, 154.64 - 3T+2T+2Lo, 3Lo+2T, 3T, 2A / 3F, 2A, and 3Lo
3. Emilea Zingas, 130.32 - Great musicality, but a lot of popped jumps
4. Lily Yu, 116.64 - Huge jumps, but struggles to control them

Sources: https://twitter.com/pas_deChat and https://twitter.com/SylviaUnseen

Skate Detroit - Top 4 Senior Ladies:
1. Amber Glenn, 170.00
2. Akane Eguchi, 142.04
3. Alison Neumann, 110.02
4. Eve Agler, 107.47

Source: https://twitter.com/SylviaUnseen/status/1155254764076261376?s=20

 

[nataliebunard12]

Kate’s PCS is quite low (in the lower 20’s for the Short and mid to high 40’s for the Long). Also, summer competitions are not an indicator of how well a skater will do during the remainder of the season as their programs are fresh, a little bare, and they are still working on incorporating the movements, transitions, and jumps. Skaters should not peak during the summer, so if Kate can score 160+ at a summer competition, as the season progresses and she begins to peak, her score will rise with it. Kate has qualified for the ISP and will probably be given a JGP very soon. Additionally, the last time we had this many Junior girls attempting clean 3-3’s was back in 2017-2018.

Junior Ladies w/ Clean 3-3s:
- Kate Wang executed a 3Lz+3T, 3Lz+3Lo, and 3F+Eu+3S
- Isabelle Inthisone executed a 3F+3T and 3Lz+Eu+3S
- Lindsay Thorngren executed a 3Lz+3T
- Jessica Lin executed a 3T+3T
- Mia Kalin executed a 3Lz+3T and 3F+Eu+3S (Not eligible for ISP until the the 2021-2022 season)
- Isabeau Levito executed a 3Lo+3T and 3Lz+3T+2T (Not eligible for ISP until next year)
- Noella Rose executed a 3Lz+3T
- Gabriella Izzo executed a clean 3F+3Lo at Glacier Falls in her Short
- Audrey Shin executed a clean 3Lz+3T at Nationals
- Alysa Liu has many clean 3-3s
- Hanna Harrell has a 3F+3T and 3Lz+3T
- Sarah Jung has 3Lz+3T and 3F+Eu+3S (Not sure if she’s staying Junior internationally)

I might be missing a few, but the junior scene has not been this exciting for a very long time. Of course, jumping is not everything and we do have some very artistic and dramatic skaters such as Isabeau, Lindsay, and Isabelle.

Just for fun, here’s a list of the seniors on the International Selection Pool with clean 3-3’s:
- Starr Andrews with her 3T+3T
- Bradie Tennell with her 3Lz+3T and 3Lz+3Lo
- Mariah Bell’s iffy 3Lz+3T
- Ting Cui has a 3Lz+3T and 3F+Eu+3S
- Megan has a 3T+3T but we have not seen a clean one this year
- Pooja has a 3T+3T, 3F+3T, and 3Lz+3T
- Karen has a 3Lz+3T
- Amber Glenn has a 3F+3T
- Courtney Hicks has a 3F+3Lo

ya sarah is staying junior internaitonality

 

[moonvine]

Anecdotally:

Los Angeles Open starts tomorrow, and Starr Andrews recently said in an Insta Live that she will be competing there.​

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ETA (on Jul 12):

Emmy Ma is entered in U.S. Collegiates (Jul 28 - 30), per the practice groups PDF.

And Heidi Munger will return.​

I have tried to look at that pdf approximately 1,000 times and always get “bandwidth limit exceeded.” Anyone else having this problem?

 

[Bluediamonds09]

The Philadelphia competition begins in two or three days, right? Does anyone know who’s competing?
I don’t think Gracie will be there, unless she’s purposely trying to delay any knowledge that she’ll be there, in order to stop a big crowd from coming. Idk.

 

[natsulian]

I.S.P. Junior Ladies’ Summer Scores:
1. Alysa LIU - 214
2. Hanna HARRELL - 182
3. Gabriella IZZO - 169
4. Kate WANG - 164
5. Jessica LIN - 164
6. Ellen SLAVICEK - 163
7. Lindsay THORNGREN - 161
8. Elsa CHENG - 158
9. Emilia MURDOCK - 146
10. Isabelle INTHISONE - 144
11. Calista CHOI - 138
12. Pooja KALYAN - 136
13. Aubrey IGNACIO - 103
14. Audrey SHIN - Shin is injured

 

[Lunalovesskating]

I.S.P. Junior Ladies’ Summer Scores:
1. Alysa LIU - 214
2. Hanna HARRELL - 182
3. Gabriella IZZO - 169
4. Kate WANG - 164
5. Jessica LIN - 164
6. Ellen SLAVICEK - 163
7. Lindsay THORNGREN - 161
8. Elsa CHENG - 158
9. Emilia MURDOCK - 146
10. Isabelle INTHISONE - 144
11. Calista CHOI - 138
12. Pooja KALYAN - 136
13. Aubrey IGNACIO - 103
14. Audrey SHIN - Shin is injured

Are there any videos?

 

[Tavi...]

Are there any videos?

The ISP isn’t a competition- it’s a USFS list of skaters eligible for selection to international competition. But I think a lot of clips have already been posted above of the comps where they earned the qualifying scores. If not, I think you can find them on YouTube.

 

[Lunalovesskating]

The ISP isn’t a competition- it’s a USFS list of skaters eligible for selection to international competition. But I think a lot of clips have already been posted above of the comps where they earned the qualifying scores. If not, I think you can find them on YouTube.

Ah ok..sry my bad. I thought this was another comp I did not know about

 

[haribobo]

Nat has a lot of these listed above for the JGP eligible skaters, cool list! - here is my list for them divided by how what level they compete nationally-

SENIOR LADIES summer scores over 140

Alysa Liu 214 Broadmoor
Hanna Harrell 182 Cannon
Karen Chen 171 Vail
M Amber Glenn, 170 Skate Detroit
E Gabriella Izzo 169 Lake Placid
M Alyssa Rich 151 Broadmoor (SP&QFS)
P Starr Andrews 150 LA Open
E Heidi Munger 147 Glacier Falls
P Emilia Murdock 146 Glacier Falls
P Caitlin Ha 145 Glacier Falls
E Sarah Jung 143 Broadmoor (SP+QFS)
E Jill Heiner 142 Cherry
M Akane Eguchi 142 Skate Detroit
E Megan Wessenberg 142 Glacier Falls
P Brynne McIsaac 141 Broadmoor
P Akari Nakahara 140 LA Open

TBD- Audrey Shin, Ting Cui, Courtney Hicks, Gracie Gold, Mariah Bell, Bradie Tennell

JUNIOR
* = in ISP


Kate Wang 164 P Detroit
*Jessica Lin 164 M Broadmoor
*Ellen Slavicek 163 Glacier Falls
*Lindsay Thorngren 161
*Elsa Cheng 158
Isabeau Levito 156 E Broadmoor (SP+QFS)
Finley Hawk 151 M Southport
Emma Coppess 149 P LA Open
Mia Kalin, 147 P CCIA
Noelle Rosa 146 P Broadmoor
*Isabelle Inthisone 144 M Southport
Alena Budko 143 P Glacier Falls
Indi Cha 141 E Colonial
Allison Zheng 139 P
*Calista Choi 138 M
Tiffany Pennella 137 E Broadmoor

TBD- Laura Jacobsen E

 

[ice coverage]

From Skate Wilmington results for NQS Senior Ladies:

Jill Heiner 149.42

Julia Biechler 146.61 (at her home club)

https://skatewilm.com/competitions-...-2/skate-wilmington-2019-ijs-results-summary/​

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Results for Skate Milwaukee now have been published on the club website.

https://wifsc.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/07/IJS-Results.pdf​

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SENIOR LADIES summer scores over 140

E Jill Heiner 142 Cherry ...

JUNIOR

*Elsa Cheng 158 M NACS (Novice)

Allison Zheng 139 P NACS (Novice)

*Calista Choi 138 M NACS (Novice)

Tweaks for haribobo's list:

- Jill Heiner had a better score at Skate Wilmington. (See above.)

- Julia Biechler's score from Skate Wilmington belongs on the list.

- Wrong segment name is listed for Elsa Cheng, Allison Zheng, Calista Choi.

Elsa Cheng 158.83 is from NQS Novice at Skate Milwaukee.
Her NAC score: 147.74.

Calista Choi 138.29 is from NQS Junior at Skate Milwaukee.
She did not compete in NAC.

Nitpicking :hopelessness:, but Allison Zheng 139.26 is from NQS Junior at Skate Milwaukee.
(Allison Zheng 138.30 is from NAC at Skate Milwaukee.)​

 

[frida80]

Is a 160+ total score really good, though? I thought that to make the podium at a jgp event, a junior ladies skater needed around 175+ or more. And even that sounds really low.

No it’s not good enough for a podium spot. But with 15 slots, that’s beside the point. In order for these girls to become competitive in the future they need international experience. By going to a JGP, Kate can witness competitive ladies from all over the globe. See better what she needs to work on and focus on those skills as well as honing the skills that she already has. It may be that next year after getting some much needed international exposure she not only comes with a consistent 3A but formidable skating skills and transitions as well.

 

[nataliebunard12]

Nat has a lot of these listed above for the JGP eligible skaters, cool list! - here is my list for them divided by how what level they compete nationally-

SENIOR LADIES summer scores over 140

Alysa Liu 214 Broadmoor
Hanna Harrell 182 Cannon
Karen Chen 171 Vail
M Amber Glenn, 170 Skate Detroit
E Gabriella Izzo 169 Lake Placid
M Alyssa Rich 151 Broadmoor (SP&QFS)
P Starr Andrews 149ish LA Open
E Heidi Munger 147 Glacier Falls
P Emilia Murdock 146 Glacier Falls
P Caitlin Ha 145 Glacier Falls
E Sarah Jung 143 Broadmoor (SP+QFS)
E Jill Heiner 142 Cherry
M Akane Eguchi 142 Skate Detroit
E Megan Wessenberg 142 Glacier Falls
P Brynne McIsaac 141 Broadmoor
P Akari Nakahara 140 LA Open

TBD- Audrey Shin, Ting Cui, Courtney Hicks, Gracie Gold, Mariah Bell, Bradie Tennell

JUNIOR
* = in ISP

*Jessica Lin 164 M Broadmoor
Kate Wang 164 P Detroit
*Ellen Slavicek 163 Glacier Falls
*Lindsay Thorngren 161 E NACS (Novice)
*Elsa Cheng 158 M NACS (Novice)
Isabeau Levito 156 E Broadmoor (SP+QFS)
Finley Hawk 151 M Southport
Emma Coppess 149 P LA Open
Mia Kalin, 147 P CCIA
Noelle Rosa 146 P Broadmoor
*Isabelle Inthisone 144 M Southport
Alena Budko 143 P Glacier Falls
Indi Cha 141 E Colonial
Allison Zheng 139 P NACS (Novice)
*Calista Choi 138 M NACS (Novice)
Tiffany Pennella 137 E Broadmoor

TBD- Laura Jacobsen E

sarah is struggling with her short alot this year. IF she can do a clean short at philly, her total score will be much over 150+. Just watch her at philly because i plan to watch her the stands

 

[natsulian]

160+ may not be good enough for a podium spot, but it certainly is one of the highest summer scores for a junior. Plus, we have 7 Juniors scoring above 160 IN THE SUMMER when their programs are new. I’m expecting that if Pooja goes clean and so does Emilia Murdock, they’ll score 180+. Emilia actually scored 177 internationally this year.

 

[nussnacker]

SENIOR LADIES summer scores over 140

Alysa Liu 214 Broadmoor

Quite incredible that Alysa scores 200+ time and time again.
Her consistency on triples is amazing, given her recent force majeure circumstances, those are nerves of steel of this little one right there.

 

[nataliebunard12]

Quite incredible that Alysa scores 200+ time and time again.
Her consistency on triples is amazing, given her recent force majeure circumstances, those a nerves of steel of this little one right there.

Well, the usfs is over scoring her in the PSC and really trying to protect her

 

[nussnacker]

Well, the usfs is over scoring her in the PSC and really trying to protect her

Do you know what she got in PCS for 2 recent events? Is it over 60?