I remember going through her jumps and detecting Shoma-levels of prerotation on her jumps. When a loop, lutz or flip turns past 180 degrees, or a salchow turns almost a full turn before she even leaves the ground (FS warmup), that's when I feel the prerotation is a little excessive. Strangely I'm happiest with her 3A.
2019-20 U.S. Ladies Figure Skating
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I remember going through her jumps and detecting Shoma-levels of prerotation on her jumps. When a loop, lutz or flip turns past 180 degrees, or a salchow turns almost a full turn before she even leaves the ground (FS warmup), that's when I feel the prerotation is a little excessive. Strangely I'm happiest with her 3A.
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Maybe it is because I come from a country with no strength in skating (heck, we don't even have proper ice rinks), but I don't understand when people get worried due to competition. I love when there isn't a clear winner, I love waiting until the last minute to see who wins and who gets the medals and the debates afterwards about who should have really won. Things are just so boring when there's one clear leader (either one skater or country), so I'm really thrilled about how well Alysa has begun her JGP season, and I really look forward to see how she develops even loving the Russian girls. I mean, JGPF this year will probably be wild.
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Congratulations extended to Alysa Liu who became the very first non-Russian and Japanese lady skater to win a Junior Grand Prix title in FIVE YEARS. Liu executed a stunning 3A+2T, 4Lz, 3A<< (Fall), 3Lo, 3Lz+3T, 3Lz+Eu+3S, and 3F, becoming the VERY FIRST female in the history of the sport to perform both a quad and a 3A in the same program. Furthermore, following the second Junior Grand Prix event, Liu now holds the highest Short and Long program scores for the junior ladies' division. Additionally, Liu has the highest total score for the junior ladies this season with five more events to come. Liu will represent the USA once again in her second Junior Grand Prix event in Poland.
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Congratulations to Alysa for winning JGP Lake Placid with a clean 3A+2T and clean 4Lz with positive GOE. She fell hard on her second 3A, but she didn't let that distract her from completing the rest of her program. I chuckled at her K&C chatter: "I made a big mistake!" 
She seems to have a good head on her shoulders for such a young skater with such high expectations. That's just as important as a clean quad in this sport.
Ted mentioned she is the first non-Russian or non-Japanese skater to win a ladies JGP in five years. Wow.
She seems to have a good head on her shoulders for such a young skater with such high expectations. That's just as important as a clean quad in this sport.Ted mentioned she is the first non-Russian or non-Japanese skater to win a ladies JGP in five years. Wow.
The 4ltz (prerotated like most ladies quads) was very impressive far better than the ones i saw at earlier events.
The 3A are still kinda not okay for me, it's not a great technique on the axel (which is about the distance and she doesn't have that) in general.
Overall she did great at her JGP debut, i liked her expression in the short program, very good spinner, and a fighter too.
The 3A are still kinda not okay for me, it's not a great technique on the axel (which is about the distance and she doesn't have that) in general.
Overall she did great at her JGP debut, i liked her expression in the short program, very good spinner, and a fighter too.
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Fair assessment. I am most impressed with her determination. She is also a good performer. Her SS and jumps need work.
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Jessica Lin was also a fighter tonight. She FOUGHT for the 3Lo+2T and although it did not quite work out, she has a FIRE in her belly. Jessica still needs some consistency on the 3Lz if she wants to make it into the Top 6. Emilia came back from being 13th after the Short to 7th overall, a great debut for an immensely charismatic skater. Next week, we have Isabelle Inthisone and Gabriella Izzo competing in Latvia. Best of luck to both girls.
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Emilia is definitely my personal favorite. Her SS and performance are beautiful! Congrats to all the ladies.
She is working with Lori Nichol so she is in very good hands for the skating skills.
As for the jumps yes she needs some help on some of those, especially as the body grows they need to be bigger, with more speed and flow, you can't solely rely on the fast rotation: it's a very efficient trick for now though, her triples seem very consistent.
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She was also at TCC for a few weeks, however, I think mostly for working on her Quad. I would love her to train SS with Tracy and Brian.
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According to the rumor mills, she has actually spent a majority of the time working at TCC. Right before the Aurora Games, someone mentioned her having worked with Lori for a "couple of weeks" on her skating skills. When we compare her Short and Free from Glacier Falls to the Aurora Games, A LOT of the choreography, transitions, etc... have been changed or enhanced. Furthermore, her speed drastically increased and so did her presentation. I think her working with Lori and TCC for the skating skills/jumps is not only ideal, but has led to HUGE improvements on all quadrants.
EDIT: The "five year" slogan is incorrect... make that SIX. According to a spreadsheet released by a Japanese fan, the last non-Russian and Japanese lady to win a JGP title was Polina Edmunds back in 2013.
EDIT: The "five year" slogan is incorrect... make that SIX. According to a spreadsheet released by a Japanese fan, the last non-Russian and Japanese lady to win a JGP title was Polina Edmunds back in 2013.
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I think for her first ever JGP event Alysa did great. I’m happy that the judges rewarded her technically but didn’t go too overboard with her PCS. She has made a lot of progress since last year but she needs to develop more in speed and components to really match the top junior skaters. She has a lot of great one foot skating and transitions though that are more apparent since last year. That said she is off to a really great start and should be proud of what she accomplished.
What is perhaps most impressive is how relaxed she looked. The US has had many great skaters who couldn’t control their nerves- it looks like Alysa has a good handle on this right now.
What is perhaps most impressive is how relaxed she looked. The US has had many great skaters who couldn’t control their nerves- it looks like Alysa has a good handle on this right now.
Is it based off of winning a JGP title or medaling at a JGP? If it’s the latter, I remember Vivian Le medaled at one a few seasons ago.
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Winning a JGP title, not silver or bronze.
They mean winning the event. The last to medal was Emmy Ma two years ago.
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New articles posted by NBC and the New York Times alongside local news coverage.
In the NBC article, Alysa was interviewed right after her Free and she said she does not “obsess” over records and just wants to do her very best.
Notable Comments:
- Started practicing ballet to help with presentation, flexibility, and spins
- Goes through her programs without jumps
- Began adding in skating skills exercises
- No more new quads and the focus right now is on skating skills
- Alysa said she missed her second 3A because she was too slow and she wants to go in with more speed
- Alysa said she wants to add “more speed” going into her jumps and to her overall skating
Source: https://olympics.nbcsports.com/2019...ix-lake-placid/amp/?__twitter_impression=true
https://usfigureskatingfanzone.com/...-quadruple-lutz-in-junior-grand-prix-win.aspx
In the NBC article, Alysa was interviewed right after her Free and she said she does not “obsess” over records and just wants to do her very best.
Notable Comments:
- Started practicing ballet to help with presentation, flexibility, and spins
- Goes through her programs without jumps
- Began adding in skating skills exercises
- No more new quads and the focus right now is on skating skills
- Alysa said she missed her second 3A because she was too slow and she wants to go in with more speed
- Alysa said she wants to add “more speed” going into her jumps and to her overall skating
Source: https://olympics.nbcsports.com/2019...ix-lake-placid/amp/?__twitter_impression=true
https://usfigureskatingfanzone.com/...-quadruple-lutz-in-junior-grand-prix-win.aspx
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Sounds like they are on the right track!
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Glad that she recognizes her weaknesses and is working to improve them
