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2019-20 U.S. Ladies Figure Skating

Congratulations to Starr who posted a new personal best of 66.31 whilst Megan scored 44.76. Best of luck to both ladies in the Free.

Kate and Audrey will be skating their Free tomorrow morning and Karen will be skating second to last today. Best of luck.
 
I think that while Caroline did have some technical issues that drove many people crazy at the time, the biggest factor holding her back was her bodily development. She had an extremely fast and dramatic growth spurt and I don’t think was ever able to adjust. Her speed issues didn’t help of course.
 
Yeah, I agree. Kate skated very well today, and major congratulations to her for that. However, I don’t think she was underscored on spins or PCS. She moves pretty slowly across the ice and doesn’t have great ice coverage. This is definitely something to work on for the future, but the jumps look solid and consistent!

I think at Champs Camp next year the USFSA must address why so many American skaters lack basic speed. Are they not doing Power Stroking Clinics any more? Why are basic stroking skills not a priority any more? Because it is starting to show in the Juniors. I"m not just talking about superior skills of the Japanese, Russians and Koreans, even many of the skaters from third world countries have more flow and speed than the American skaters.
 
Congratulations to Starr who posted a new personal best of 66.31 whilst Megan scored 44.76. Best of luck to both ladies in the Free.

Kate and Audrey will be skating their Free tomorrow morning and Karen will be skating second to last today. Best of luck.

I'm so happy for Starr. I really do like her skating but, I was not a fan of either of her programs last season. I hope she can hold it together during the free and build some momentum heading into nationals.
 
I think at Champs Camp next year the USFSA must address why so many American skaters lack basic speed. Are they not doing Power Stroking Clinics any more?

Skaters reach the elite level in the US training at scores of different rinks with hundreds of different coaches. Some may do power stroking classes, or stroking classes in general, and others don't. Some may advocate figures practice, most don't these days.

It's not like Japan or Korea which are geographically much smaller countries with few training centers, or like Russia where most serious training takes place in two major cities.

Centralized training camps only get the top skaters together a week or two per year. Otherwise, training is spread out all around the country. Some training rinks have enough figure skating ice time and enough high-level skaters to support training sessions that permit high-test or elite skaters only on the sessions, or to support an academy-style program at least a few hours a week that offers group instruction in stroking and similar skills. Others have limited ice time available that must be shared with lower level skaters.

There's no way for the federation to micromanage the way all coaches teach all year long.

There isn't a single training curriculum in the US. The only think that is mandated is to pass the Moves in the Field tests.

Those will make sure that a skater can execute all the turns and can achieve so-called "senior power," but what qualifies as senior level in turns of passing the tests is far from what's required to succeed in international competition -- or even in national or sectional competition.

Another thing to keep in mind is that many US rinks are NHL size (and sometimes even smaller). If you train year-round in a smaller ice surface and often compete on a smaller surface, you won't be as used to filling an Olympic-sized rink as those who train and compete on the larger surfaces all the time.

Why are basic stroking skills not a priority any more? Because it is starting to show in the Juniors. I"m not just talking about superior skills of the Japanese, Russians and Koreans, even many of the skaters from third world countries have more flow and speed than the American skaters.

Starting to show? When do you think this started?

One thing the US did a couple years ago, for better or for worse, in trying to get competitive skaters to skate faster, is to adjust the way PCS are scored at the lower level.

Juveniles are now scored by only three program components (Skating Skills, Performance, and Interpretation), with Skating Skills counting for 60%. Intermediates have four components, adding Composition, with Skating Skills at 55%. Novices have all five components, but Skating Skills are worth 45%. The other components, proportionally, have much lower percentages, in some cases lower than the 20% for each of the five components at Junior and Senior levels. And there is an added criterion for Skating Skills at these levels: "Speed is maintained in and out of elements."

The theory is that valuing Skating Skills so much more than any of the other components at developmental levels will encourage skaters to prioritize training those skills. Is it working? I don't know. But we should see skaters who came up with these priorities getting to junior level by now.
 
Kate Wang is a diamond in the rough, a nice surprise for me.

She skates patiently, perhaps a bit slow but gets the job done and the second half of the free skate was a surprise, 3ltz-3lo, 3f-1lo-3s and spins in two directions.

On top of that she has a nice genuine smile, doesn't look tense or nervous at all.

With a little more speed on everything she has the qualities to become a really strong skater.
 
I think at Champs Camp next year the USFSA must address why so many American skaters lack basic speed. Are they not doing Power Stroking Clinics any more? Why are basic stroking skills not a priority any more? Because it is starting to show in the Juniors. I"m not just talking about superior skills of the Japanese, Russians and Koreans, even many of the skaters from third world countries have more flow and speed than the American skaters.

Speed doesn't always transfer into great skating. Elena Liashenko was fast as lightening across the ice but, she came to a screeching halt when she jumped.
 
Congratulations to Kate and Audrey for two amazing skates. Kate had the fifth highest TES, but one of the lower PCS. With more speed and work on skating skills, she will become a huge threat. I would’ve scored her at around 173+ and placed her in fifth, but then again the judges and their PCS was kinda yikes today.
 
Kate skated very well, and the fact she didn't even score 110+ kind of flabbergasted me, as did her 48 in PCS, but she proved herself, and I hope she gets another chance to deliver internationally! I hope her performance today gives her the confidence to perform with more flair too. And great job on that tech score.
 
Kate skated very well, and the fact she didn't even score 110+ kind of flabbergasted me, as did her 48 in PCS, but she proved herself, and I hope she gets another chance to deliver internationally! I hope her performance today gives her the confidence to perform with more flair too. And great job on that tech score.

Personally, I think she was a bit robbed on tes score as well. She deserves 65+ for such an outstanding skate. GOE was so low. Pcs were pretty fair, but I would have bumped her to about 50 for an exciting clean skate. She needs to work on all PCS aspects so she’s on the podium next year. Although, in my eyes she deserves to be closer to the podium today. Congratulations Kate, you were stunning.
 
I really enjoyed Kate, and it was nice - and kind of a happy surprise- that the audience was so supportive of her! How wonderful that she made the final group on her first try. It was a great debut on the JGP, and I hope she gets a second assignment.

Regarding her PCS and GOE - I don’t watch the JGP enough to be able to agree or disagree that she was underscored. But I noticed that although she has a very sweet and charming persona on the ice and a really nice calm, she also seems very young and unpolished, especially compared to some of the other skaters in her group. Hopefully she’ll keep working and soon earn higher scores, because she’s really talented and has a lot to build on.
 
I really enjoyed Kate, and it was nice - and kind of a happy surprise- that the audience was so supportive of her! How wonderful that she made the final group on her first try. It was a great debut on the JGP, and I hope she gets a second assignment.

Regarding her PCS and GOE - I don’t watch the JGP enough to be able to agree or disagree that she was underscored. But I noticed that although she has a very sweet and charming persona on the ice and a really nice calm, she also seems very young and unpolished, especially compared to some of the other skaters in her group. Hopefully she’ll keep working and soon earn higher scores, because she’s really talented and has a lot to build on.

Just had a look at Kate's Skate....;) Not the fastest skater but, she really fully rotates hers jump and that is huge. Looking forward to watching her the rest of the season.
 
Hate to be That Person, but Audrey Shin has got to correct her underrotation problem or give up on getting much further in her international skating career. She's got a lot going for her in other aspects of her skating and could be great, so if I were USFS, I'd make it clear to her and her coaching team that fixing the UR's has to happen and this season. I wouldn't give her another JGP but maybe a Junior B later in the fall. I think she's had this problem since at least novice level (though I give novices a pass on UR's since their triples aren't yet fully stable) but I would have thought that by this summer, this would have been mostly corrected. National tech panels have maybe been too lenient with her, but international panels will dog her mercilessly and forever, once she gets the reputation of habitual UR'er.
 
Unfortunately for me, Starr’s lp choreography felt nonexistent to me.☹️ She barely did anything but jump and spin. She’s so much better than this empty program. The judges agree; she only received 57+ in pcs. She needs to show more personality and confidence and swagger.
 
Her Salome music and purple dress made me think of Michelle. Wish I had been watching Michelle instead, no disrespect to Starr, she's improved this season but not enough. It's just Michelle's Salome was so iconic and memorable. It's a lot to live up to and Starr's program felt very Meh.
 
Unfortunately for me, Starr’s lp choreography felt nonexistent to me.☹️ She barely did anything but jump and spin. She’s so much better than this empty program. The judges agree; she only received 57+ in pcs. She needs to show more personality and confidence and swagger.

To be fair, the PCS across the board at this competition were quite low.
 
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