2022–23 Canadian Figure Skating

[Jumping_Bean]

Each partner registers individually in Quebec (but does name their partner), so it just means the partner hasn't registered yet.

Thank you I don't think I've ever seen that kind of system before, but that's certainly a really interesting way to handle registrations.

 

[CaroLiza_fan]

I've already posted about the event in the British and Irish thread, but I just realised that I should have posted in here as well.

As you may or may not have heard, Carolane Soucisse and Liam Firus have switched to representing Ireland.

They will be making their debut this weekend at the Irish Championships, which are being held in Dundee, Scotland, as part of the Dundee Open. All the Ice Dance segments of the Irish Championships are being held on Saturday, with the Juniors followed immediately by the Seniors.

When you look at the Time Schedules for the two levels, there is a big overlap between the times allocated for the Junior and Senior segments. So, this may indicate that they are actually having a combined Warm-Up for Juniors and Seniors (which would make sense, as there is only one partnership competing at each level). Consequently, just in case this is what is happening, the times I am giving here are for the start of the Junior Warm-Up.

The Short Dance is due to start at 07:35:00 BST Saturday (23:35:00 PDT Friday / 02:35:00 EDT Saturday / 06:35:00 GMT Saturday).

The Free Dance is due to start at 14:09:00 BST Saturday (06:09:00 PDT Saturday / 09:09:00 EDT Saturday / 13:09:00 GMT Saturday).

More details can be found in the dedicated thread, which I started this morning over in the competition forum:

https://www.goldenskate.com/forum/threads/95621

Hope this helps

CaroLiza_fan

 

[Jumping_Bean]

As was already posted in the 2022-23 Retirements, Splits and New Partnerships thread, Tilda Alteryd has teamed up with Valtter Virtanen. This not only means that she has split from Gabriel Farand, but that she has most likely also left Team Canada after less than a season. Lots of luck to her and Valtter.❤
Hopefully, Gabriel is able to find a new partner soon if he's continuing and hasn't found one yet. There's still a number of pairs women across a number of countries looking for one after all

Another split (but this one is probably not a huge surprise, unfortunately): It seems that Chaïma Ben Khelifa/Everest Zhu have ended their partnership. She is on Icepartnersearch: http://icepartnersearch.com/showbio.php?i=7426.

And something interesting:
Thierry Ferland is currently in the US and training with the WASA pairs team. Here's a gorgeous 3LoTh with Gabbie Izzo:

 

[4everchan]

wait.. is Lori-Ann done???

sigh... i love my Thierry.. will I love him as much if he skates for the USA..? HA !

@CaroLiza_fan : you do not need to fear that this thread had missed the news about S/F... we have talked a lot about them already.

Regarding Alteryd, well... as I said in the other thread, I am not sure it's a very wise move to start pairs with a 36 years old inexperienced skater in pairs... and Gabriel is a fine partner... but yeah..

For Everest... we saw that one coming... his heart didn't seem into it for a while... Too bad.

 

[CaroLiza_fan]

@CaroLiza_fan : you do not need to fear that this thread had missed the news about S/F... we have talked a lot about them already.

Oh, I know that. I've been reading the comments myself.

But, this is the off-season, and a lot of members don't visit as often as they do during the season. So, they might have missed the news. It was those members who that wee caveat was directed at.

I know that I have missed a lot of pieces of news due to not reading through the threads for the big Feds in this sub-forum. (That is one good side-effect from Carolane and Liam switching. It has started me reading this thread. Before that, I only ever read the threads for the smaller Feds).

Oh, it'll be so good to see them competing on the international stage more regularly due to this switch. They deserve it.

CaroLiza_fan

 

[Jumping_Bean]

wait.. is Lori-Ann done???

sigh... i love my Thierry.. will I love him as much if he skates for the USA..? HA ! .

Last thing I heard she was doing better, could even do 3S again but that was back in January and since then it's been very quiet around her future in competitive skating.
She's been travelling a lot recently, and while it is the off-season, it's getting to a point where most skaters are returning to the ice to prepare for next season.

It's possible that Thierry is still waiting for her recovery, but is using the time to train with other pairs women in order to stay in shape. It's hard to train a throw or a lift without a partner after all.
Gabbie has so far mostly skated with coaches or skaters who are otherwise partnered up, so it's also possible he's just there to earn some money as a temporary coach in the off-season.

And even if they've actually partnered up, what's to say that Gabbie won't switch to Canada? - Or maybe they can find a completely different country to represent, wouldn't be the first time, would it?

 

[yesterday]

Ben Khelifa / Zhu are done as well: http://icepartnersearch.com/showbio.php?i=7426
(sry if that was already covered somewhere)

 

[4everchan]

Ben Khelifa / Zhu are done as well: http://icepartnersearch.com/showbio.php?i=7426
(sry if that was already covered somewhere)

just a few posts up indeed.. but yeah.. such sad news... I have always liked them... and Everest was a fave of mine. Granted, I have many faves

 

[CaroLiza_fan]

If anybody hasn't gone to bed yet, the Irish Championships are about to start with the Ice Dancers. One Junior partnership (the Hegartys), followed by one Senior partnership (Soucisse / Firus).

Livestream for the Short Dances is now on air.

Here are the links for the archived livestream:
Junior Short Dance (starts at 24m 25s) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0LZhedSphOI&t=1465
Senior Short Dance (starts at 35m 44s) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0LZhedSphOI&t=2144

Here are the Time Schedules:
Junior Short Dance - http://www.iceresultsuk.org.uk/Dund...JUNIOR----QUAL000100--_StartListwithTimes.pdf
Senior Short Dance - http://www.iceresultsuk.org.uk/Dund...----------QUAL000100--_StartListwithTimes.pdf

And here are the live scoring pages:
Junior Short Dance - http://www.iceresultsuk.org.uk/Dundee/2023/IrishChampionship/SEG007.htm
Senior Short Dance - http://www.iceresultsuk.org.uk/Dundee/2023/IrishChampionship/SEG003.htm

Hope this helps

ALL THE BEST EVERYBODY!!!

CaroLiza_fan

 

[PaulE]

Thanks for the link @CaroLiza_fan . It's fun being one of only 60 people logged in and watching. I just watched Soucisse and Firus since I am a fan of Carol Lane's coaching..

 

[Diana Delafield]

Thanks for the link @CaroLiza_fan . It's fun being one of only 60 people logged in and watching. I just watched Soucisse and Firus since I am a fan of Carol Lane's coaching..

So who are the other 57 besides you, me, and @CaroLiza_fan?

 

[CaroLiza_fan]

Thanks for the link @CaroLiza_fan . It's fun being one of only 60 people logged in and watching. I just watched Soucisse and Firus since I am a fan of Carol Lane's coaching..

You're welcome. And I totally agree - I like Carol Lane's work too!

By the way, the Irish Dancers have a very busy Saturday, because they will be doing their Free today as well. It will be on the afternoon stream, and I will post a reminder post with links just before it starts.

So who are the other 57 besides you, me, and @CaroLiza_fan?

I might actually be 2 of the 60. I am watching MotoGP at the moment, so I have the stream opened in two windows - one is paused before the Hegartys so that can watch them when the adverts come on, and the other is playing the LIVE stuff so that I can keep an eye on what stage of proceedings we are at.

CaroLiza_fan

 

[CaroLiza_fan]

No rest for the Ice Dancers at the Irish Championships. After doing their Short Dances at 07:30 this morning, they are back doing their Free Dances just seven hours later. They are due to start in 35 minutes from now (the SP's for the Singles skaters are starting now).

Livestream for the Free Dances is now on air.

Here are the links for the archived livestream:
Junior Free Dance (starts at 58m 24s) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vTCnJMaYO9o&t=3504
Senior Free Dance (starts at 1h 10m 21s) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vTCnJMaYO9o&t=4221

Here are the Time Schedules:
Junior Free Dance - http://www.iceresultsuk.org.uk/Dund...JUNIOR----FNL-000100--_StartListwithTimes.pdf
Senior Free Dance - http://www.iceresultsuk.org.uk/Dund...----------FNL-000100--_StartListwithTimes.pdf

And here are the live scoring pages:
Junior Free Dance - http://www.iceresultsuk.org.uk/Dundee/2023/IrishChampionship/SEG008.htm
Senior Free Dance - http://www.iceresultsuk.org.uk/Dundee/2023/IrishChampionship/SEG004.htm

Hope this helps

ALL THE BEST EVERYBODY!!!

CaroLiza_fan

 

[Sackie]

Just checked the RD score for S/F and it is not good. They would just make the cut off for the Free Dance at worlds.

 

[Lili1122]

Just checked the RD score for S/F and it is not good. They would just make the cut off for the Free Dance at worlds.

There are only 3 judges, and Judge #2 gave them PCS in the 4's and 5's, while the other two gave 7's. With only 3 judges, i guess they don't throw out the lowest mark, so if Judge #2 was closer to the other judges, their score would have been about 3 pts higher
S/F bringing back their Latin RD one last time while preparing an 80s RD for this season might mean they're a little rusty with it as well? Except they got level 3 on their midline and 4 on everything else, so idk when general wisdom says you can't take Nationals scores seriously, usually they mean they're inflated, but not here
Judge #2 according to SkatingScores hasn't judged internationally or at the senior level, last adjudicated novice at British Nationals in 2017

 

[4everchan]

In any case, S/F will not get competitions out of Ireland until the second half of the season... and then, IF they are indeed released, they may try to get to worlds. Not a done deal. But yeah, I guess they now have an idea that it won't be easy considering getting low scores by inexperienced judges... When was the last time they got 4 and 5s? 2009?

 

[Diana Delafield]

In any case, S/F will not get competitions out of Ireland until the second half of the season... and then, IF they are indeed released, they may try to get to worlds. Not a done deal. But yeah, I guess they now have an idea that it won't be easy considering getting low scores by inexperienced judges... When was the last time they got 4 and 5s? 2009?

If they do get some international competitions with a larger panel of qualified judges and their scores go up quite a bit, would that in some measure cancel out their low scores this time? I don't know how scoring over a longer season works. (Although I have to say that their performance in the RD at the crack of dawn did look as if they were just walking through it, with not enough attention paid to details like pointed toes or strong arms. Whether from rustiness or jet lag or that godawful hour to skate I don't know. So, not their best performance, but not *that* low at least.)

 

[4everchan]

If they do get some international competitions with a larger panel of qualified judges and their scores go up quite a bit, would that in some measure cancel out their low scores this time? I don't know how scoring over a longer season works. (Although I have to say that their performance in the RD at the crack of dawn did look as if they were just walking through it, with not enough attention paid to details like pointed toes or strong arms. Whether from rustiness or jet lag or that godawful hour to skate I don't know. So, not their best performance, but not *that* low at least.)

scoring over a season? this scoring is not relevant at all.. it's their "nationals" score.

 

[Jumping_Bean]

Ok, the scoring here at Irish Nationals was a bit harsh, particularly by judge Nr.2 (Come on, 4s and 5s? Of course, they're not the best Ice Dancers in the current field internationally, but that's way too low), but Soucisse/Firus have also been hovering between the low/mid-160s to mid-170s under international scoring for a few seasons now.

They were unlikely to make it to Worlds (or even back to 4CC) for Canada in the forseeable future, so even if they don't make the Free Dance cutoff representing Ireland, they will at least have been to Worlds I'm sure they've considered their options very carefully, and who know, maybe having less competition for major championships will allow them to skate more freely and improve beyond what we currently think is possible.

 

[Diana Delafield]

scoring over a season? this scoring is not relevant at all.. it's their "nationals" score.

Good, thanks for the clarification. I never paid much attention to my specific scores as a skater, just ranking from year to year among how many other competitors at an event. Still do the same today as a fan.