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2025-26 Grand Prix Final Men's Free Skate
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Aww Ilia's such a good egg.
And wow, Nathan still holds the World Record total score! That's pretty epic.
Oh and congratulations Shun! He's surely achieved his goal to go to the Olympics right? Or does it depend on the Japanese Nationals?
And kudos to Yuma!
And wow, Nathan still holds the World Record total score! That's pretty epic.
Oh and congratulations Shun! He's surely achieved his goal to go to the Olympics right? Or does it depend on the Japanese Nationals?
And kudos to Yuma!
You realize there are more components than one?
My point there is that Kagiyama's skating skill is affecting the perception of his performance as well as choreography as well his jumps, because people seem to be only caring about how he flows out of them.
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No, Shun is a lock for sure.
Disagree.
Even if it were true, it'd be one component in total.
Happy to see him barely get an edge in PCS to Malinin. Like I don't at all think Malinin is all that fantastic, but Kagiyama isn't at all some fantastic artist to deserve a huge lead. 1.5-2 points ahead in skating skills and around a point ahead in performance and composition is all I'd say (each at their best). That'd be around 6-8 points in the LP, and Malinin's tech advantage is too vast.
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Nice job Yuma. Not perfect, but we'll take it. Glad he rose to the pressure of leading going into the free. That must be nerve racking waiting for your turn. Love the emotional moment of the layback Ina Bauer. Glad to see him break 300. Well done.
Of course his skating skills affect the perception of everything else. That's how skating works! If you have skating skills your choreo will stand out more and you'll get more flow out of your jumps. I'm not even a skater and I know that. He also works with Lori Nichol and has the most complex programs. Cheer for your fave without discrediting others.
So nice to know Nathan isn't completely forgotten. I talked to a coworker who saw Ilia and asked her if she remembered Nathan and Yuzu at the last Olympics that I knew she watched and she gave me a blank look like who? That made me sad.
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I’m just happy they didn’t give Adam better PCS than Shun. He’s (Adam) sloppy as heck and his PCS confuddles me for all the whining about Ilia’s.
It *shouldn't*, at the minimum, affect the perception of flawed jumps. Not one bit.
I can tell.
I'd say the judges are discrediting the efforts of the skaters who learn how to take off on their toe jumps properly, but that's me.
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Makes me wonder which past skater(s) your coworker remembers, if any
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Ilya's overscored but more accurate PCS wouldn't matter because he's probably going to win anyway and when he messes up they lower his PCS. Adam and IMHO Kao Miura are fast. So, they get higher PCS but I find them both to have empty programs and to be messy and frightening to watch. OTHO Shun has complex choreo and delivers his choreo well. His SS are good but he isn't an extroverted performer and he isn't as fast. So, they give him unfairly low PCS sometimes. He really needs to sell himself more...
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Guy's quite literally getting wonky in the air again and lands wonky, and you hear the commentator going 'best quality jumping technique'.
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Even ignoring the amount of rotation he does on ice, see how the edge flattens out as he starts prepping the vault. Raw +GOE of almost 3 to that jump.
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I mean, if Kagiyama's landings were textbook perfect on fully rotated jumps, he should have no problems putting triples at the end of his combos, but he barely managed doubles. But there is not even q in the protocols, they all counted as clean jumps. Judges giving his botched landing 0 in GoE instead of negatives, two of them even giving positive GoE... it just seems like something is amiss.
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and SB to boot
