Alina Zagitova

[madison]

There is one more thing. Remember G. Daleman's complete disaster at OG. When she started falling, she completely lost consistence, started to do the most simple jumps and was copletely out of program. Alina nomatter the falls and the terrible feelings she surely had still completed her program AS A WHOLE, she had no Ur calls (thats why she still ended 5th) and fought. She is really strong and she new I can cry later but till the music is on I must fight no matter everything. Thats the think why I think she should have not interrupt trainings (of course some rest she must have but in reasonable lenght) and preserve self-confidence, fight with the feelings like "I am useless" and so on. That of coure requires max support from her family and her team. I even think Medvedeva and other teammates should now help her to stay strong, to help her recognize that one miserable program is not the end of the world and would never wipe out what makes her so great.

She had URs and that was essentially the problem with the jumps.... she just didn't have enough force to rotate them.

 

[madison]

Her 2A... is not such a jump in my opinion. Of course, she could pull something out of nowhere but... Zagitova's 2A height is about average.

For ladies, a consistent 3A would be a very big deal, especially if it was high quality. 2 in the free skate, 1 in the SP... It'd be almost an insurmountable advantage. I guess it remains to be seen what Zagitova decides to concentrate on in the future.

She doesn't jump 2A Rippon or Tano which makes me think that the plan is to try 3A.

 

[Scott512]

I saw some supporting messages on Instagram from Adelina and Yagudin.

Not surprising. They are good people.

We have to remember that Alina is only 15 years old and everything went her way this season until yesterday when she had the worst performance of her career on a big stage. Not only am I sorry for Alina but I'm sorry for her little sister having a feeling she's probably very upset what happened. We have to hope that Alina's body grows a little bit more but not too much more to the point where it negatively affects her ability to win and jump and spin and rotate.

 

[Scott512]

Hopefully. But Alina and Zhenya can be calm, the best juniors are not senior eligible for one more year, so their spots are pretty much undisputed.

For the 2022 Olympics can they have Alina zagitova or evgenia medvedeva on the team event and then the other three skaters for the individual event? By then Russia's should be one of the favorites for the team gold medal with their young skaters getting better and their plethora of women skaters sitting at the top of the world.

 

[Scott512]

https://twitter.com/joanna_ortega/status/977456910243786753
Some headlines.

Averbuch was correct the absence of Medvedeva negatively affected Zagitova who had to handle all the pressure from the media and the Federation. Alina couldnt handle it.

I was working and didn't get a chance to watch her performance yesterday and I don't know if I ever want to watch it when I heard how she was crying so much in the kiss and cry area. She had to hold her emotions in this year when she won at Europeans and the Olympics because she beat Evgenia her good friend. She was happy she won of course but felt the pain for Medvedeva and what she was going through and respected that that's why she wasn't enjoying her victories like many think she should have. Alna is very sensitive and I'm sorry she had that poor performance yesterday I hope it does not affect her long-term. But shes onky human. Great season for Alina. Yesterday was disappointing and painful for her but it doesn't change anything. She's ladies skater of the year without questions.

 

[madison]

Averbuch was correct the absence of Medvedeva negatively affected Zagitova who had to handle all the pressure from the media and the Federation. Alina couldnt handle it.

I was working and didn't get a chance to watch her performance yesterday and I don't know if I ever want to watch it when I heard how she was crying so much in the kiss and cry area. She had to hold her emotions in this year when she won at Europeans and the Olympics because she beat Evgenia her good friend. She was happy she won of course but felt the pain for Medvedeva and what she was going through and respected that that's why she wasn't enjoying her victories like many think she should have. Alna is very sensitive and I'm sorry she had that poor performance yesterday I hope it does not affect her long-term. But shes onky human. Great season for Alina. Yesterday was disappointing and painful for her but it doesn't change anything. She's ladies skater of the year without questions.

She lost because she was tired after this season and after winning the Olympics she was distracted by other things: events, boys... You have to keep your head cool in figure skating in every moment and to be dedicated 100% to it.

 

[Scott512]

She lost because she was tired after this season and after winning the Olympics she was distracted by other things: events, boys... You have to keep your head cool in figure skating in every moment and to be dedicated 100% to it.

yes you are right she was tired after the season and after winning the Olympics and all the attention she got and I think it affected her at the world championships as did not having medvedeva there to lean on as the leader. Alina is 100% dedicated she just lost her way and her confidence and it happens especially when you have a back loaded program if something goes wrong it can spin out of control with a domino effect very quickly.

 

[yoloaxel]

Alina has an unfortunate performance yesterday. Being there I could tell she was super tired, you could see it in the way she moved even in the warmup. The public loved her though and cheered for her until the end! I’m sure she’ll be back with a vengeance next year, nobody should doubt her abilities because of one bad FS

 

[rikaquegira]

Saw a comment where it TAT said "now you guys can see why we love zhenya, she was reigning the last two years, please get healthy, we need you". Is this legit? I hate her for commenting that to Alina. Alina sacrificed for this Worlds with exhausted mind and body after OLY, Russian Fed should be thankful [emoji107][emoji107][emoji107][emoji107][emoji107][emoji107][emoji107][emoji107][emoji107][emoji107][emoji107]

what???? she did not say that right???
If she did, that’s unbelievable!
I won’t say Alina is my favorite skater but what that girl has done is just mindblowing! She is so strong, mentally and physically. Seeing her crying like that after ending her perfect season with that disastrous FS was one of the saddest moment this season.
But I’m sure she will come back stronger than ever! She has shown she can challenge the biggest champion, she will continue to do so. This was just a hiccup, it was an incredible season for her, the best debut, but it was also unimaginably tiring, I think we can all understand and should continue to support her. She deserves all the love!

 

[SXTN]

As sad as it is for Alina, I hope she has proved to all of her snobby haters what strength her free program takes and what it looks like when you fall a couple of times in a backloaded program. It crumbles. For this reason she deserves every single point she got in past competitions because it's not a "bold move" to put every jump in the second half, but a MONSTER EFFORT both mentally and physically. Her program is designed to be skated perfectly all the time, there are no "if's". No room for errors or glitches when you have to fire 4 jumps within 25 seconds that are all accented to the music.

 

[Elucidus]

Will she participate in gala?

 

[Seruleane]

Averbuch was correct the absence of Medvedeva negatively affected Zagitova who had to handle all the pressure from the media and the Federation. Alina couldnt handle it.

I was working and didn't get a chance to watch her performance yesterday and I don't know if I ever want to watch it when I heard how she was crying so much in the kiss and cry area.

I wasn't there, just watched it on TV live but I thought she handled herself extremely well, esp for a 15 year old who has been through an emotional roller coaster these past couple of months. She teared up after her performance and obviously was upset, but she was very gracious to the audience, and kept it together in the K&C. I'm not going to name any names, but there have been a number of more mature figure skaters who come to mind that did not keep it together nearly as well in the K&C after disappointing performances.

Also, I initially thought maybe Evgenia not being there gave Alina more pressure, but she has done fine previously without Evgenia (i.e. GPF) and I agree with the posters who note she was really tired. I think it was the combination of extreme emotional and physical fatigue from a long season, coupled with nerves because it was her first WC and the pressure of being Olympic Champion and getting her first World Title, which is what everyone expected.

To Alina, I hope she realizes she has had an amazing season despite what happened in the World FS, and that she is still young, and can bounce back from this. Everyone has bad/off days, especially when they have been through what Alina has gone through this season. What matters is getting past this and picking herself back up. I hope her team and family are being supportive and understanding. I hope the Russian Fed and public are supportive of her. This girl is an amazing talent and I can't wait to see her next season.

 

[vitamintea]

Agreed! I think Alina has a lot of potential as an artist, and I think this season has shown that skaters who rely on their technical abilities will go through these faltering periods. I'm so happy Nathan won Worlds this year and showed that he recovered from his disastrous SP in the Olympics. As much as it hurts for the athletes in the moment, what separates the strong competitors is their ability to falter and recover, and impress the audience and judges in their performances to come. I had a lot of respect for Gabby Daleman after seeing her skate and then in the kiss and cry joke about how nothing could be worse than what happened in the Olympics. True, Gabby didn't have the best skate of her life yesterday either, but she persevered and it takes guts to do that.

Now it's the offseason and like everyone else, I hope Alina takes some time off (seems like Osmond said in an interview she relaxed for a few days, which probably contributed to her mental fortitude), talks to a sports psychologist or someone about putting some separation between this event, and comes back next season with new performances that astound us all again. I'm looking forward to what they'll do next! She's gone through a few warhorses already, and I would love to see something modern from her.

Also, as a basketball fan, I can't help but make comparisons in my mind between the athletes in figure skating and the professional basketball players. There are some youtube channels that will curate all of the plays from when a player has a terrible shooting night, but disclaims them with a reminder: everyone has bad games. Everyone has bad skates and Alina had one here. You can find highlight reels on Youtube of MVPs going off for 50+ points in a night, and you can find nights where they don't make a single 3 pointer. It's unfortunate there are so many fewer competitions in figure skating and a bad skate matters a little more, but I don't think this tarnishes Alina's legacy at all.

 

[Rina RUS]

Not surprising. They are good people.

Tatiana Anatolievna Tarasova is good too.
Yes, she was speaking about Medvedeva, but on those videos which I can rewatch, there is no these words: "now you guys can see why we love Zhenya" - and I don't think, that the videos were edited. Today when one of the men was falling and falling, Tarasova said, that even though it is gainful for Aliev, she can't say, that it is good (she can't be happy).
Maybe it is odd, but it even seems, that TAT thinks Medvedeva could help Zagitova. Maybe she thinks, that the pressure wouldn't be so big for Zagitova, if they both were there...

TAT's comments:

TAT: You know, after the Olympics she became 3 centimeters higher. /.../ She says: "I just need to eat less," - yet puberty exists, it breaks everything. When you become higher, muscles don't have enough time to grow either, and you lose the coordination. Then the muscles grow either, and coordination returns. It often happens.
the man: Yet what a strength, what a will power, an energy is implicated in this tiny young athlete. She tried to do all these jumps, even after the failure with the lutz in the beginning. In the second part of the program. Nobody in the world do the same.
TAT: Yes, she tried without doubting. And her warm-up was awesome. It means she was ready, she had no a single mistake in the warm-up. She jumped the lutz twice. /.../
TAT: She is not used to fall, not used to have something disturbing her. In our team they say you can wake up Alinka at night, bring her to another city, give her the skates and she will be jumping, and jumping, and jumping - and she will win over all. Of course, there is much tears. The Worlds is not an easy job.
the man: And the pressure was very serious during this season. She was pulling...
TAT: Yes. Zhenya, get better soon. Zhenya, our dear Zhenya, get better. Cure your leg and be back. Do you see how long Kostner can skate? And how beautiful it is, and how she is well-loved either. Everyone should pass such a period when something is hurting. You have been skating without a single fail all these years. Were winning the title, were confirming the title.
/.../
the man: It's a pity.
TAT: It's a pity. Really! We will have only 2 spots for the next year.
the man: It won't happen, Tatiana Anatolievna.
TAT: Won't happen? Thanks to God, thanks to God.

 

[russianfan]

beautiful Alina

 

[madison]

beautiful Alina

I hope she's well. I'm kind of worried

 

[Scott512]

Tatiana Anatolievna Tarasova is good too.
Yes, she was speaking about Medvedeva, but on those videos which I can rewatch, there is no these words: "now you guys can see why we love Zhenya" - and I don't think, that the videos were edited. Today when one of the men was falling and falling, Tarasova said, that even though it is gainful for Aliev, she can't say, that it is good (she can't be happy).
Maybe it is odd, but it even seems, that TAT thinks Medvedeva could help Zagitova. Maybe she thinks, that the pressure wouldn't be so big for Zagitova, if they both were there...

TAT's comments:

Thank you for that info.

 

[Scott512]

I hope she's well. I'm kind of worried

I am worried too she never should have gone to Worlds to risk her perfect season and performing when she is tired and with all the pressure on her. I just hope she can rest up plan her next season and realize this season was the best debut season ever one of the best in figure skating history among the ladies even with what happened yesterday.

 

[plushyfan]

https://www.instagram.com/p/BgtyP4vlsoI/?taken-by=plushenkoofficial - The girl who jumps such a cascade 3Lz + 3T + 3Lo + 3lo can not be in bad shape! Alina @azagitova, you have passed a fantastic winning season and won the Olympic Games, usually winning the most important start in 4 years, athletes do not go to the World Championship, but you decided to go! It was the most dramatic ending, because you were ready for 100, but you are not a robot, you are a human, a fragile 15-year-old girl who proved to all that the impossible is possible and will prove it again and again, since the fall make us stronger and we go to new achievements, new victories and new world records! -google translate

He respects Alina!

 

[Scott512]

https://www.instagram.com/p/BgtyP4vlsoI/?taken-by=plushenkoofficial - The girl who jumps such a cascade 3Lz + 3T + 3Lo + 3lo can not be in bad shape! Alina @azagitova, you have passed a fantastic winning season and won the Olympic Games, usually winning the most important start in 4 years, athletes do not go to the World Championship, but you decided to go! It was the most dramatic ending, because you were ready for 100, but you are not a robot, you are a human, a fragile 15-year-old girl who proved to all that the impossible is possible and will prove it again and again, since the fall make us stronger and we go to new achievements, new victories and new world records! -google translate

He respects Alina!

Nice words from one of the greatest figure skaters of all time and the greatest Russian figure skater of all time to Olympic champion Alina Zagitova.

I know yesterday was very hard for Alna Zagitova. But Alina must remember that's for the next four years she will be called Olympic champion and that's a hell of a lot better than being called world champion. Before the next Olympics she will have three more World Championships. No worries she still great and had a great season the best debut season ever.