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Alina Zagitova

Still more Alina billboards in Japan. Madoka!!

That’s super cool!! Thanks TheBallerina
 
For example: 3T + 2A will be considered as jump sequence and rule “0.8” will apply. (4.20 + 3.3)*0.8=6.0
It means she/he will lose points doing this jump sequence, did I understand it correctly?
But 2A + 3T will be considered as jump combination and will get full value.

Well, I'm no expert but I understand it the same way as you. :)

But I thought that combos with euler would be considered as sequences now, but it seems they are still combinations.

An Euler (half-loop) when used in combinations between two listed jumps becomes a listed jump with the value indicated in the Scale of Value.
 
Hello figure skating experts. I was checking rules and found something interesting (I am not at expert and would appreciate if you can answer my question).

Jump sequences are evaluated as one unit by adding the Base Values of the two jumps, multiplying the result by 0.8 and applying the GOE of the jump with the higher numerical value. The factored Base Value of the jump sequence will be rounded to two decimal places.
Jump Sequences
A jump sequence consists of 2 (two) jumps of any number of revolutions, beginning with any jump, immediately followed by an Axel type jump with a direct step from the landing curve of the first jump to the take-off curve of the Axel jump.

For example: 3T + 2A will be considered as jump sequence and rule “0.8” will apply. (4.20 + 3.3)*0.8=6.0
It means she/he will lose points doing this jump sequence, did I understand it correctly?
But 2A + 3T will be considered as jump combination and will get full value.

Jump Combinations In a jump combination the landing foot of a jump is the take off foot of the next jump. One full revolution on the ice between the jumps (free foot can touch the ice, but no weight transfer) keeps the element in the frame of the definition of a jump combination.
An Euler (half-loop) when used in combinations between two listed jumps becomes a listed jump with the value indicated in the Scale of Value.
If the first jump of a two-jump-combination fails to be successful and turns out as a “non-listed jump”, the unit will still be considered as a jump combination.

https://www.isu.org/inside-single-p...igure-skating-rules/regulations-rules-fs/file
https://www.isu.org/inside-single-p...ications-fs/17142-isu-communication-2168/file

Hi, I rely on the expertise of others to learn about figure skating (I’m a bit new to the ins and outs of scoring). That blog I quoted on my post, Alice, is like my favorite source ever.

Considering what you asked about I would say this other blog, which I also like quite a lot, has some pretty useful info.

http://soyouwanttowatchfs.tumblr.co...roduction-to-the-isu-judging-system-post-2018

To be a jumping sequence, as your correctly pointed out, there needs to be a “hop” between the two jumps and the second jump can only be an Axel.

A jump combo usually has a loop or a toe loop as the second jump.

In both jump combos and jump sequences the GOE is based of the base value of the most valuable jump in the combo or sequence. The BV for the combo is the sum of the BV of all the jumps in the combo and for a sequence the BV is 80% of the sum of the BV of the jumps in the sequence (like you stated).

PS: I have to admit that reading straight from the ISU guidelines is quite a chore for me, they make English seem like Greek to me.
 
I think Alina knows about the horse since she follows her fanbases but the screenshot and words used in the article are actually teamzagitova's 😓 not Alina's
 
The judges are probably thinking the same thing!

[emoji23][emoji23][emoji23] ISU documents always seem to go like this: “A is worth 10 if it comes before B, if it comes after C it’s worth 5 but only if no B is present, if B is present deduct the value of D but do so after adding the value of F”.

OH LORD!!!

My guess is things are so complicated so that we have a hard time second guessing what’s really going on.

As long as Alina gets a fair share of +5 on her beautifully executed jumps (and Choreo) they can rain down the rules in Sanskrit and I’ll be fine.
 
[emoji23][emoji23][emoji23] ISU documents always seem to go like this: “A is worth 10 if it comes before B, if it comes after C it’s worth 5 but only if no B is present, if B is present deduct the value of D but do so after adding the value of F”.

OH LORD!!!

My guess is things are so complicated so that we have a hard time second guessing what’s really going on.

As long as Alina gets a fair share of +5 on her beautifully executed jumps (and Choreo) they can rain down the rules in Sanskrit and I’ll be fine.

It's like the most difficult "word problems" in Algebra.

Well - as long as the placements are fair that's what really matters.
 
PS: I have to admit that reading straight from the ISU guidelines is quite a chore for me, they make English seem like Greek to me.

And what about us, not native speakers? :) But I have some advantage in that, as a lawyer I'm used to read similar texts (well, bills and rules have the same syntax no matter the language :devil:)
 
And what about us, not native speakers? :) But I have some advantage in that, as a lawyer I'm used to read similar texts (well, bills and rules have the same syntax no matter the language :devil:)

That’s so true!! And you are well equipped to both read the ISU insane docs and mount a defense for Alina. I will never forgive them for letting the anti-backloading thing go through.
 
Well, I'm no expert but I understand it the same way as you. :)

But I thought that combos with euler would be considered as sequences now, but it seems they are still combinations.

"An Euler (half-loop) when used in combinations between two listed jumps becomes a listed jump with the value indicated in the Scale of Value. " - this means, she/he planned to have jump combination of two jumps but accidently did (added) An Euler, and it will be considered as jump combination of three jumps and she/he will lose points for real jump, since it will be considered as additional/not listed. hm... cruelly...
 

After I saw Mirai’s feet all black and blue nothing surprises me, I’m glad she is able to walk without pain, and kneel and do anything she wants.

Taping goes with the territory in competitive figure skating I guess.

I hope that as the season progresses Alina feels more comfortable with her new skates.

I guess training camp was super intense, she had a few black and blue spots on her arms in pictures right after the camp ended. But she is happy and smiling all the time, Alina is such a trooper [emoji1320][emoji772]
 
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