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Alina Zagitova

Top right picture - Masaru shows off her big sharp teeth.
Bottom right picture - Alina sticks her fingers into Masaru's mouth.
:scratch2: :laugh:

Masaru‘s big sharp teeth will probably only gently nip at Alina‘s finger. That‘s what my dog does at least. But he doesn‘t look scary at all, he‘s a fluffball and probably smaller than the average cat. :laugh:
 
That‘s what sometimes bothers me, too. In my weak moments. :laugh: Had Team Russia (OAR to be formal) won in the Team Event there would have been an Olympic Gold Medal for both girls secured and a heartbreak in the singles event could have been avoided. Think about that: Alina would have been two times Olympic Champion at age 15. :p So, if you guys in Russia were all rooting for Zhenya to win a gold medal so much, then do your absolute best in the Team Competition so that she automatically has one, would you? Problem solved. I think we found the guilty ones. And it certainly isn‘t Alina. Because SHE has got her team 10 points with an even higher score for her FS than in the singles competition that won her the OGM! ;) (or better not search for the guilty ones, poor Misha doesn‘t deserve that everyone is turning on him again :slink: )

For the records: I‘m just joking here. It is what it is and I‘m not blaming anyone for what they did in the Team Competition (only secretly...). I just sometimes have my weak moments when I wished this whole drama could have been avoided. We would have had two happy Olympic Champions with one double gold medalist and no one questioning Alina’s success. Which could have happened and didn‘t and that‘s what sometimes makes me curse destiny. :laugh:

But don‘t mind me I‘ll soon be back to cursing only those people like Beastie (who I had no idea actually had a name that sounds remotely like beast lol) and watching Masaru videos to cheer me up. :)

Amazing point about the team competition and how that could have been gold for Zhenya and Alina. But outside of ladies Russia sent a mediocre team by their standards.

Can Russia send Alina and Zhenya for the team competition in 2022 and then send three other girls for the single spots?
 
Amazing point about the team competition and how that could have been gold for Zhenya and Alina. But outside of ladies Russia sent a mediocre team by their standards.

Can Russia send Alina and Zhenya for the team competition in 2022 and then send three other girls for the single spots?

To be more precise, they did not sent anybody, they had to wait for invitation...
 
Can Russia send Alina and Zhenya for the team competition in 2022 and then send three other girls for the single spots?

Why would they do that? :scratch2: Alina is going to be their best chance to get another Olympic gold medal in ladies' skating. :agree2:

(I'm actually serious abut this, and if you disagree, please think twice about if this thread is the best place to say it.)
 
Why would they do that? :scratch2: Alina is going to be their best chance to get another Olympic gold medal in ladies' skating. :agree2:

(I'm actually serious abut this, and if you disagree, please think twice about if this thread is the best place to say it.)

Honestly Alina is one of my favorite skaters and it would be incredible if she could get a second Olympic title but we do not know what can happen in the next 3 years. I don't think anyone can say that, especially when we think about all the young Russian prodigies we discover every year.
 
Honestly Alina is one of my favorite skaters and it would be incredible if she could get a second Olympic title but we do not know what can happen in the next 3 years. I don't think anyone can say that, especially when we think about all the young Russian prodigies we discover every year.

This is true, but we are here to dream right along with Alina for as long as it is her dream. :hap10:
 
Why would they do that? :scratch2: Alina is going to be their best chance to get another Olympic gold medal in ladies' skating. :agree2:

(I'm actually serious abut this, and if you disagree, please think twice about if this thread is the best place to say it.)

I'm always puzzled about why thinking about longevity in the ladies field is such a hard thing.

Yeah we have Carolina (no competitions so far this year but won medals last year), and Liza and Satoko (first is 21 the second is 20) both won medals this year. I know we don't have a field like in Men's where guys can routinely be 19, 20, 21, and even 23 like Hanyu. Edited to add: I know Brezina and Voronov too but I'm talking about the norm.

How puberty affects men and women in distinct (and diametral) ways is probably part of this answer, but still, there is no reason a female top skater can't remain on top for longer than her late teens. Shizuka Arakawa won her first, and only, Olympic Gold Medal in Ladies Singles at 24 years old.

I hope Alina has the motivation to be that skater because she has talent and grit to do it. Watching her skate is a transcendental experience for me, I travel away to unknown places in my emotions that she (and she alone) can tap into. Her performance is like a gift she is giving to the audience, and I feel lucky and blessed just by being able to witness it. This special aspect of her performance will only get better as she matures (just look at Hanyu), the fact that she can achieve this at such a young age is mesmerizing.

Figure Skating training and preparation is incredibly tough and punishing, the hours, the relentless exercises, all the things you have to give up, the eventual falls, and I'm not even taking into account the pressure to always win or......cue in chorus......"you are done", "so-and-so is going to eat you alive". Like that last bit even matters. Staying relevant in skating doesn't mean winning everything, at least for me. If you can win everything by all means go out and win everything, but if you have some valleys to match your peaks, that is no big deal. Hanyu has a bunch of silvers, bronzes and off podium finishes in his senior career and he is not missing any accolades for having those.

Like I said, I wish Alina will be the one to break this current glass ceiling and add another notch to her already notch filled belt.
 
Honestly Alina is one of my favorite skaters...

Alina is my favorite skater. For me, she will always be the champion in every competition she enters. Whether she wins it or not.

There are plenty of Edge threads where you can argue about the "realistic" state of Russian ladies and what will happen to them in four years. Like I said in my previous post, I know people might disagree with what I said, and I don't mind, but since this thread is about supporting Alina, I hope that you will respect my request to not writing discouraging remarks about Alina's future in her own fanfest.
 
Why would they do that? :scratch2: Alina is going to be their best chance to get another Olympic gold medal in ladies' skating. :agree2:

(I'm actually serious abut this, and if you disagree, please think twice about if this thread is the best place to say it.)

At this point Alina is the best chance for ladies gold for Russia in 2022 but two or three years from now may be a different story. If that's the case and she's not one of the top three I would like to see your added to the team maybe Medvedeva too. It may not be possible to send her for just the team competition only. And I would hope by then with Russia having like six of the top 10 ladies and 10 or 11 of the top 20 I would hope the is you would allow more than just three skaters in that case. It probably won't happen but it's going to be very incredible to see Russia with five or six of the top 10 in a couple years and 10 of the top 20.
 
Alina is my favorite skater. For me, she will always be the champion in every competition she enters. Whether she wins it or not.

There are plenty of Edge threads where you can argue about the "realistic" state of Russian ladies and what will happen to them in four years. Like I said in my previous post, I know people might disagree with what I said, and I don't mind, but since this thread is about supporting Alina, I hope that you will respect my request to not writing discouraging remarks about Alina's future in her own fanfest.

Sure. Not easy to do though. To me it's not a negative about Alina it's wondering about what the future holds for her with the younger girls coming. It will be fascinating so get your popcorn ready zenskate!
 
This is true, but we are here to dream right along with Alina for as long as it is her dream. :hap10:

Whatever her dream is, I hope that we will find out her "secret motivation" one day. :laugh:

And also find out who made Alina realize that there are things such as "friends who are not sincere" :dev2: shame on them.
 
I'm always puzzled about why thinking about longevity in the ladies field is such a hard thing.

Yeah we have Carolina (no competitions so far this year but won medals last year), and Liza and Satoko (first is 21 the second is 20) both won medals this year. I know we don't have a field like in Men's where guys can routinely be 19, 20, 21, and even 23 like Hanyu. Edited to add: I know Brezina and Voronov too but I'm talking about the norm.

How puberty affects men and women in distinct (and diametral) ways is probably part of this answer, but still, there is no reason a female top skater can't remain on top for longer than her late teens. Shizuka Arakawa won her first, and only, Olympic Gold Medal in Ladies Singles at 24 years old.

I hope Alina has the motivation to be that skater because she has talent and grit to do it. Watching her skate is a transcendental experience for me, I travel away to unknown places in my emotions that she (and she alone) can tap into. Her performance is like a gift she is giving to the audience, and I feel lucky and blessed just by being able to witness it. This special aspect of her performance will only get better as she matures (just look at Hanyu), the fact that she can achieve this at such a young age is mesmerizing.

Figure Skating training and preparation is incredibly tough and punishing, the hours, the relentless exercises, all the things you have to give up, the eventual falls, and I'm not even taking into account the pressure to always win or......cue in chorus......"you are done", "so-and-so is going to eat you alive". Like that last bit even matters. Staying relevant in skating doesn't mean winning everything, at least for me. If you can win everything by all means go out and win everything, but if you have some valleys to match your peaks, that is no big deal. Hanyu has a bunch of silvers, bronzes and off podium finishes in his senior career and he is not missing any accolades for having those.

Like I said, I wish Alina will be the one to break this current glass ceiling and add another notch to her already notch filled belt.

Thank you. I wish I had written that. Like you I hope Alinka breaks the glass ceiling and re writes history.
 
I watched Masaru's Airweave commercial again on youtube.

There are actually 4 thumbs-down on the video!!!!

C'mon - now Masaru has haterzzzzz????

Here are my 4 suspects....

Bobrova
Bestie
Trankov
NOT TAT
 
Whatever her dream is, I hope that we will find out her "secret motivation" one day. :laugh:

And also find out who made Alina realize that there are things such as "friends who are not sincere" :dev2: shame on them.

1) I hope Alina's motivation IS to win a 2nd Olympic Gold Medal (Ladies - NOT Team Event)

2) Judging by the antics right after the Olympics, and now the last few weeks, there seem to be a lot of candidates.
 
Whatever her dream is, I hope that we will find out her "secret motivation" one day. :laugh:

And also find out who made Alina realize that there are things such as "friends who are not sincere" :dev2: shame on them.

I think Alina’s biggest challenge will occur when she’s 18 and can make all of her own decisions. When she turns 18 more commercial opportunities will open up for her. The money she makes will be totally under her control and her parents won’t have a say. She can buy her own flashy car and an apartment in the swankiest part of Moscow. She’ll also be on the VIP guest list for every night club in Moscow and she’d probably be able to date any guy she wants.

Alina will have a lot of temptations.
 
I'm always puzzled about why thinking about longevity in the ladies field is such a hard thing...

Well, the thing is that the gap between senior and junior/early senior ladies is practically nonexistent now. I'm not saying it is a bad thing as some try to say, but modern figure skating is more and more technical where the "oldfashioned" attitude has some disadvantage. As I've mentioned about Katarina Witt's Carmen (and don't mean it as disrespectful), this program would not be enough even for junior GP, the tech/difficulty level was raised by a huge amount. So being "longevity" skater twenty or ten years ago was much easier (I don't mean easy, it's just used in relative way, not absolute way) than now. The new (in the ladies cathegory) difficult elements are hard to learn as adult, in fact quads were performed only by juniors so far.

Yes, there are still those longevity skaters, but ladies like Carolina have one advantage, weak or nonexistent competitors at home. Not only for getting an entry to an international competition. Look at e. g. Kaetlyn Osmond. She has no problem to miss a season, because apart from Gabby there is no real challenge among canadian ladies for her (not even any promising junior, at least so far). In Italy there is also not a single lady skater on Carolina's level till now. On the other hand in Russia (and I don't think it is much different in Japan now) if you miss the season due to health problems, you've missed the train already (well, this is a czech proverb, I don't know corresponding one in english) and have difficult issue to catch it again. Anna Pogorilaya, Elena Radionova and others still are unable to get on the train again (I don't mention Sotnikova, I think there is another issue).

Maybe it will be different again when the "elements revolution" will be over (because I don't think there will be other such turbulent era in the near future), in five, six years there may will be no junior training alements that current seniors don't do, but now the times are a changin' :biggrin:
 
I think Alina’s biggest challenge will occur when she’s 18 and can make all of her own decisions. When she turns 18 more commercial opportunities will open up for her. The money she makes will be totally under her control and her parents won’t have a say. She can buy her own flashy car and an apartment in the swankiest part of Moscow. She’ll also be on the VIP guest list for every night club in Moscow and she’d probably be able to date any guy she wants.

Alina will have a lot of temptations.

I don't think turning 18 would make much difference. Like Oksana Baiul yielded those temptations at 16. For those who want/are weak to resist, there is no thing as age restriction, esp. when parents are away. But Alina is one of those with strong discipline and low desire for such things, no matter that some beast has tried to say otherwise.
 
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