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I could not believe she decided to stick with that difficult transition there, it was incredible. With the fall I really think the unfair call yesterday could have thrown her off there. I hope she just trains like normal and doesn't try and change anything with the Lutz because of these calls. It's only one competition and I'm thinking it won't be repeated like this again.

There was absolutely no stress after the performance. She truly is skating for herself, and she has won absolutely everything so she has no worries. I'm excited to just see continual wonderful artistry and performance!
 
Finley said:
I thought the same! :laugh2:

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The party is in the Alena K. thread :agree:
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Thanks Finley. But I would have won either way. ;) The Grand Prix final should be nuts with all of 4A there. And maybe Liza too or Zhenya.

It's important for Alina to have a very steady successful season. And then add something big in the offseason if her left knee is up for it.
 
paji15 said:
I deleted the last part because I don’t think there is a reason for negativity. If she will be clean, then there will be ROOM between her and Mariah. Actually, Alena and Alina got very strict deductions, probably the worst from the field and Alina’s lutz was totally panel created mistake and yet they are still 1-2 with a space. It’s fully in her hands exactly how she is used to.

Agree with their mistake about the music, but it’s not true there is not a place for mistakes. If first Lz is not stable enough, she can add Lo to the second. If her first 2A is weak, she can add that 3T to second or to Lutz or probably even Flip. I’m not sure if they will not backloaded 3lz-3Lo later, but the way how it’s planned now, there is a few rooms for variability.
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And i was right about part u deleted, that other skater pcs was ridiculous and we all know why. And i meant in her sp Alina cant make a mistake otherwise she will get a time deduction coz she doesn’t have extra seconds to spare. And in FS that entry to her solo lz is too crazy to actually get right edge+complete rotation im amazed with Alina’s self control, she is a true fighter, but should’ve changed entry to a simple one to re-do her combo with no < to pick on. I’m so happy she still got her job done, silver is not worst case scenario here, as i said before, even tho they really tried to pressure her mentally with that deduction and edge call so she had to be nervous and change her technique right away and STILL got a ! ...i have no words. Alina is a true champion and i love her even more now.
 
I'm so proud of Alina for putting in the 3loop in later and fighting till the end. She is a true champion, and I'm excited to see these programs get better and better as the season goes on. She's won everything but still keeps competing at such a high level. Amazing and kudos to her. I hope to see her compete for many more years.
 
Just came back from the arena (and some comfort food :) ), mixed feelings about today.

Everyone was waiting whether Alina would attach the Lo to her crazy entry Lz and she did!!! It was unbelievably gutsy on her part!

She was smiling through the step seq and clearly enjoyed it. The audience gave her a standing ovation, we shouted and cheered like crazy :)

The scores were... erm... lower than expected, but oh well...
Alina knows how to fight, and fight she will at NHK, I'm sure!
 
Noreg16 said:
And i was right about part u deleted, that other skater pcs was ridiculous and we all know why. And i meant in her sp Alina cant make a mistake otherwise she will get a time deduction coz she doesn’t have extra seconds to spare. And in FS that entry to her solo lz is too crazy to actually get right edge+complete rotation im amazed with Alina’s self control, she is a true fighter, but should’ve changed entry to a simple one to re-do her combo with no < to pick on. I’m so happy she still got her job done, silver is not worst case scenario here, as i said before, even tho they really tried to pressure her mentally with that deduction and edge call so she had to be nervous and change her technique right away and STILL got a ! ...i have no words. Alina is a true champion and i love her even more now.
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You almost said she will be lucky if she will medaled. She fell. That happen. Wihout that fall she would be comfortably into second even with those ridiculous calls. I deleted it because this is Alina’s fsn fest and ypu were negative about her performance and questioning it without any reason in advance. Like her Step sequence. But I will not argue. &#55357;&#56898;

Her entries are crazy, but she has to be able to deliver it in practice. She will not get easy program, it’s now how it works in her group. It’s not even her style. She is not playing safe. She wants to push herself. This is mindset of champions. That’s why she was able to get all those trophies.

And in my opinion, Carmen were more difficult. She is starting this season with Lz-Lo at the beggining. This tech panel clearly hate her. Her Lz was Ok yesterday and I’d say not both today were wrong. She didn’t deserved 6 calls. It happened. Sometime skaters got calls they don’t deserve. Sometime in happen even when they in reality did the best in field. It’s unfair but unfortunatelly happening. I’m not counting her off. She got this. How much she struggled with Carmen and then killed it at words?
 
paji15 said:
You almost said she will be lucky if she will medaled. She fell. That happen. Wihout that fall she would be comfortably into second even with those ridiculous calls. I deleted it because this is Alina’s fsn fest and ypu were negative about her performance and questioning it without any reason in advance. Like her Step sequence. But I will not argue. ��

Her entries are crazy, but she has to be able to deliver it in practice. She will not get easy program, it’s now how it works in her group. It’s not even her style. She is not playing safe. She wants to push herself. This is mindset of champions. That’s why she was able to get all those trophies.

And in my opinion, Carmen were more difficult. She is starting this season with Lz-Lo at the beggining. This tech panel clearly hate her. Her Lz was Ok yesterday and I’d say not both today were wrong. She didn’t deserved 6 calls. It happened. Sometime skaters got calls they don’t deserve. Sometime in happen even when they in reality did the best in field. It’s unfair but unfortunatelly happening. I’m not counting her off. She got this. How much she struggled with Carmen and then killed it at words?
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I never said she wouldn’t medal, what? I just counted her possible scores with all the calls tech panel could possibly give her (couldnt imagine this many tbh coz her practice sessions were good....but thought about her trying to get more clear outside lz edge and failing the jump, that’s exactly what they wanted) plus pcs of ms Bell being around 70 (no surprise here...) and kind of clean skate...and she d get silver, in the end 3,17 point difference is not that much, imagine Alina actually falling on lutz and getting lower PCs plus deduction? Or her not re-doing loop combo successfully? They had awful plan against Alina for americans, they did smth similar to Liza T.

Sorry if i come off as ruining your fanfest, im just worried for Alina and there ARE reasons for that, i d rather be prepared for disappointment.
Considering programs, do u really believe she needs to struggle with her programs to get high scores? Nope, other people do just step transitions or none, jump with arms around body, no “image” or “story” and can pull off high scores both in tes and pcs. I really hope she learns a quad JUST to see more of her less busy skating without chopped music like in her new eX.
 
egoshina said:
Just came back from the arena (and some comfort food :) ), mixed feelings about today.

Everyone was waiting whether Alina would attach the Lo to her crazy entry Lz and she did!!! It was unbelievably gutsy on her part!

She was smiling through the step seq and clearly enjoyed it. The audience gave her a standing ovation, we shouted and cheered like crazy :)

The scores were... erm... lower than expected, but oh well...
Alina knows how to fight, and fight she will at NHK, I'm sure!
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Thank you for supporting Alina there! Some people say Alina wasn’t skating as good as before, like she was tense? I didn’t see it even considering difficult skate. Can you share your live opinion, was energy lacking or smth like that ?
 
silveruskate said:
I could not believe she decided to stick with that difficult transition there, it was incredible. With the fall I really think the unfair call yesterday could have thrown her off there. I hope she just trains like normal and doesn't try and change anything with the Lutz because of these calls. It's only one competition and I'm thinking it won't be repeated like this again.

There was absolutely no stress after the performance. She truly is skating for herself, and she has won absolutely everything so she has no worries. I'm excited to just see continual wonderful artistry and performance!
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So well said.

It will be interesting to see if Alina adds a triple axel or quad next season. She has a chronic left knee situation and she's much bigger than 3A and Rika. But I hope she does it if it doesn't put her knee at risk.
 
Seruleane said:
I'm so proud of Alina for putting in the 3loop in later and fighting till the end. She is a true champion, and I'm excited to see these programs get better and better as the season goes on. She's won everything but still keeps competing at such a high level. Amazing and kudos to her. I hope to see her compete for many more years.
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It’s the same at the olympics when she failed to deliver her combo, she did it later and this is why she won. Alina has gut and the mindset of a champion. I really think she wants to add a quad this year but her coaches certainly wanted to prevent her for being hurt. She still can medal without 3axel or quad.
 
Noreg16 said:
I never said she wouldn’t medal, what? I just counted her possible scores with all the calls tech panel could possibly give her (couldnt imagine this many tbh coz her practice sessions were good....but thought about her trying to get more clear outside lz edge and failing the jump, that’s exactly what they wanted) plus pcs of ms Bell being around 70 (no surprise here...) and kind of clean skate...and she d get silver, in the end 3,17 point difference is not that much, imagine Alina actually falling on lutz and getting lower PCs plus deduction? Or her not re-doing loop combo successfully? They had awful plan against Alina for americans, they did smth similar to Liza T.

Sorry if i come off as ruining your fanfest, im just worried for Alina and there ARE reasons for that, i d rather be prepared for disappointment.
Considering programs, do u really believe she needs to struggle with her programs to get high scores? Nope, other people do just step transitions or none, jump with arms around body, no “image” or “story” and can pull off high scores both in tes and pcs. I really hope she learns a quad JUST to see more of her less busy skating without chopped music like in her new eX.
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This is still the beginning of the season for Alina. It's not how you start it's how you finish. Who knows how this one will end up? We've got to take it one competition at a time, just like Alina.

I'll do my own version of flanker's 'option' post -

a) Alina's is truly just skating to skate and competing for the fun of it and she's just in it for the stuffed animals. And staying relevant for her sponsors.

b) Alina is playing a long game - staying around for Beijing. In order to get to Beijing she will have to upgrade her tech content. Then she will have to become consistent with it. That will take time and repetition. A lot of time and repetition. But it will all be for nothing if she gets injured in the process so she is working on it slowly and safely. Therefore, this season, as per the 'plan' is just about staying in the game. Staying close enough to the top to keep herself in contention. Next season and the season after will be crucial.

c) I have no idea what's going on and anybody's guess is as good as mine. I just felt like there needed to be a 'c' option. Okay, maybe Alina is skating to grow as an artist and a performer and because she loves it too much to stop. I think that's 100% true.

d) All of the above.
 
Noreg16 said:
I never said she wouldn’t medal, what? I just counted her possible scores with all the calls tech panel could possibly give her (couldnt imagine this many tbh coz her practice sessions were good....but thought about her trying to get more clear outside lz edge and failing the jump, that’s exactly what they wanted) plus pcs of ms Bell being around 70 (no surprise here...) and kind of clean skate...and she d get silver, in the end 3,17 point difference is not that much, imagine Alina actually falling on lutz and getting lower PCs plus deduction? Or her not re-doing loop combo successfully? They had awful plan against Alina for americans, they did smth similar to Liza T.

Sorry if i come off as ruining your fanfest, im just worried for Alina and there ARE reasons for that, i d rather be prepared for disappointment.
Considering programs, do u really believe she needs to struggle with her programs to get high scores? Nope, other people do just step transitions or none, jump with arms around body, no “image” or “story” and can pull off high scores both in tes and pcs. I really hope she learns a quad JUST to see more of her less busy skating without chopped music like in her new eX.
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I’m sorry I misunderstood you. It’s not about ruining my fanfest, but I felt just negativity, not worries for her. Again, I’m sorry.

This ale situation reminds me of situations in pre-Sochi season when Scott Moir started getting deductions in patterns when he, not even arguably, was the best men out there and his patterns was very clean. On contrary, Charlie and Meryl never got deduction for very obvious wrong edge. There are whole threads of comparions of first four teams. Unfortunatelly, this seems to be what US Fed is up to again. Alina is not even flutzer. Her Lz is mostly clean, sometime flat. The one from Me Voy was Ok, if they had the worse view, then flat as max. I don’t wanna accuse anyone, but both US girls rised this year, Alina and Kaori was killed at this GP the most possible. The only girls who have a shot to qualified now without quad or 3A. Of course tehy went against them. Kaori got more PCS for her complicated program than Mariah for Hallelujah speaks for itself too.

I hope Alina will learn quad too, but I still hope she will never be skating and jumping on the ice without story or image. And she is NOT strugling with her programs. Panel went for her, but she was fine. Did you saw how Dudakov was surprised by her score? He’s a jump coach ... Everyone was surprised. She is comfortable in it. See her score from Japan Open. All fine.

Her ex is beautiful, though. Only the way rules are, she can’t skate program like this and be competitive if she is not able to include multiple quads. Carolina Kostner skated this way and was not even able to compete with her and Zhenya and KO etc. It’s still sport, not art fest. We are lucky we can enjoy it in exhibitions.
 
This twitter user made a chart of the percentage of jumps called clean at IDF vs all the past GPs. It’s not that girls are suddenly jumping poorer, its a mash of weird tech calls and that ridiculously slushy they call ice.

6 calls for Alina’s FS is still absolutely ridiculous to me. The tech caller was being absurd, girls who are known habitual flutzers being called for lips, magically fabricating underrotations, and edge calls out of nowhere. This guy either needs to sort out his priorities or go for retraining, seriously.


https://twitter.com/bigfanofskating/status/1190769563253624833?s=21
 
TheBallerina said:
Alina looked and skated like a Queen today!:love:

The way she added that 3Lo after the second 3Lz (with insanely difficult transition) is mind blowing. :eeking:
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That's because
Finley said:
She's a fighter! No doubt about it. I believe she can get it done at NHK.
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and a kamikaze. Only Alina could (and would among the current skaters) do a 3Lz3Lo with that crazy entry. I realize I have absolutely nothing to do with it but still I'm just bursting with pride. :)
 
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