There is no minimum of 2.25 revolutions in ISU rules. Pretty clear who has no credibility. The rest is a toxic personal attack.
Btw, since there is no rule for revolution, I can pre-rotate my single lutz 1/2 and land within 1/4 and call it a triple right?
See how important revolutions are?
I think the question that Melon raises in post 1640 is not so much about the significance of 2.25 revolutions but rather about why we are expending so much energy obsessing over this one particular instance of a triple Lutz attempt, as if the fate of the world hangs on whether Yuna Kim rotated x number of degrees or y.
That would be bad enough. But when the ranters start backing up their rants by lengthy analyses of protocols and ISU communications, not to mention stop-frame You Tubes -- to me, that's an awful lot of energy expended that could be -- I don't know -- more usefully channeled?
^ It is!
I guess that's what I am really ranting about. Any post containing the words "Yuna Kim" is enough to send half the skating world into a mean spirited rant, and "Adelina Sotnikova" will do the trick for the other half (replacing the former flash words, "Mao Asada").
That would be bad enough. But when the ranters start backing up their rants by lengthy analyses of protocols and ISU communications, not to mention stop-frame You Tubes -- to me, that's an awful lot of energy expended that could be -- I don't know -- more usefully channeled?
No its called trying to have an honest intellectually honest discussion.
I have yet to see many of these.
I am so happy to read this! No more lengthy analyses of protocols and guessing games of how many judges put your skatet above another. It was so boring to read. Not a sarcasm, it is what I really feel. Glad that you moved on.^ It is!
I guess that's what I am really ranting about. Any post containing the words "Yuna Kim" is enough to send half the skating world into a mean spirited rant, and "Adelina Sotnikova" will do the trick for the other half (replacing the former flash words, "Mao Asada").
That would be bad enough. But when the ranters start backing up their rants by lengthy analyses of protocols and ISU communications, not to mention stop-frame You Tubes -- to me, that's an awful lot of energy expended that could be -- I don't know -- more usefully channeled?
I am so happy to read this! No more lengthy analyses of protocols and guessing games of how many judges put your skatet above another. It was so boring to read. Not a sarcasm, it is what I really feel. Glad that you moved on.
I don't mind sarcasm. I mind when people create fake rules like 2.25 revolutions or use 6.0 judging system for IJS like ranting on how many judges put one skater above another. I see nothing constructive in it and find it confusing for casual fans like myself who came here to learn something.I have yet to see many of these. Mostly what I come across are "rants/ravings", "bickering", and redundant posts spewing sarcasm and hostility -- especially when one side does not agree. Very seldom do I see an "honest intellectual" debate taking place that doesn't contain a condescending tone and/or insults.
That said, warnings and infractions (which are discussed by the entire staff), are private (unless you choose to make them public). If you don't like this forum, there are always others.
Skaters don't have to have those errors of 1/2 and 1/4.
Adelina's other jumps aren't up for debate because she lands most of them almost straight backwards. There isn't anything to review. The 2Lo was over rotated almost half a revolution. It wasn't two footed (the take-off was clean, just off-axis), so I'm not sure where that came from. She stepped out of it. If she had rotated another quarter rotation she ran the risk of the technical panel calling it a triple and eliminating the entire jump pass. That would have given Kim the win as she would have lost over 8 points on that jump pass in that situation. Also, If Kim had done a +2 GOE Triple Loop in her program, she could have won the title outright.