Yeah, when he fell, he was up in about 1.5 seconds. (I looked at the timer). I'm hoping that he'll get that 3A soon because he has so much to offer!
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Yeah, when he fell, he was up in about 1.5 seconds. (I looked at the timer). I'm hoping that he'll get that 3A soon because he has so much to offer!
The competition isn't even over and there are more deductions than skaters in the competition!
Ladies and dance weren't a splatfest, so maybe it's one of those days for the men.
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It did all summer (and has hampered his ability to currently master the 3A)
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MEN'S FREE SKATE
1 Han YAN CHN 147.30 75.60 71.70 7.39 6.93 7.14 7.18 7.21 0.00 #23
2 Jason BROWN USA 125.91 58.17 68.74 6.79 6.79 6.86 6.93 7.00 1.00 #21
3 Artur DMITRIEV RUS 121.20 59.84 63.36 6.46 6.18 6.29 6.43 6.32 2.00 #24
4 June-Hyoung LEE KOR 118.50 57.52 60.98 6.18 5.89 6.07 6.14 6.21 0.00 #25
5 Jay YOSTANTO USA 105.47 48.83 56.64 6.00 5.50 5.64 5.64 5.54 0.00 #26
6 Martin RAPPE GER 101.81 53.01 50.80 5.36 4.79 5.14 5.11 5.00 2.00 #19
7 Maurizio ZANDRON ITA 98.50 46.86 52.64 5.29 5.07 5.25 5.32 5.39 1.00 #20
8 Luiz MANELLA BRA 96.89 46.89 53.00 5.57 5.18 5.25 5.36 5.14 3.00 #22
9 Noah SCHERER SUI 94.02 47.74 46.28 4.89 4.43 4.64 4.54 4.64 0.00 #11
10 Christophe BELLEY-LEMELIN CAN 92.55 44.31 49.24 5.00 4.61 5.04 4.93 5.04 1.00 #16
11 Saverio GIACOMELLI ITA 88.23 42.45 46.78 4.86 4.39 4.64 4.75 4.75 1.00 #12
12 Victor BUSTAMANTE ESP 84.10 38.62 46.48 4.64 4.43 4.71 4.64 4.82 1.00 #13
13 Igor REZNICHENKO UKR 81.65 37.71 45.94 4.75 4.54 4.57 4.61 4.50 2.00 #14
14 Ondrej SPIEGL SWE 79.66 29.80 50.86 5.18 4.86 5.11 5.07 5.21 1.00 #17
15 Filippo AMBROSINI ITA 79.51 32.95 48.56 4.86 4.64 4.82 4.96 5.00 2.00 #18
16 Marco ZAKOURIL CZE 75.67 37.79 38.88 4.04 3.61 3.86 3.93 4.00 1.00 #6
17 Yoji TSUBOI JPN 74.08 31.14 44.94 4.86 4.39 4.36 4.50 4.36 2.00 #9
18 Vlad IONESCU ROU 72.37 33.23 40.14 4.25 3.89 3.93 4.04 3.96 1.00 #8
19 Shu NAKAMURA JPN 70.48 28.92 43.56 4.54 4.21 4.14 4.46 4.43 2.00 #15
20 Krysztof GALA POL 66.93 34.43 33.50 3.68 3.11 3.32 3.43 3.21 1.00 #3
21 Oliver PORTER AUS 64.44 29.30 36.14 3.96 3.29 3.75 3.64 3.43 1.00 #7
22 Julian Zhi Jie YEE MAS 62.04 30.48 32.56 3.57 2.93 3.39 3.25 3.14 1.00 #1
23 Leonardo MAEKAWA MORENO MEX 59.50 22.44 38.06 3.86 3.71 3.71 3.89 3.86 1.00 #10
24 Lap Kan YUEN HKG 51.61 23.33 31.28 3.46 2.86 3.21 3.11 3.00 3.00 #5
25 Adil ZHARBOLOV KAZ 49.31 18.51 32.80 3.50 3.04 3.21 3.29 3.36 2.00 #2
26 Suchet KONGCHIM THA 48.97 23.41 29.56 3.43 2.71 3.00 2.89 2.75 4.00 #4
OVERALL
1 Han YAN CHN 219.37 1 1
2 Jason BROWN USA 194.28 2 2
3 June-Hyoung LEE KOR 176.48 4 4
4 Artur DMITRIEV RUS 174.19 5 3
5 Jay YOSTANTO USA 164.27 3 5
6 Martin RAPPE GER 152.51 7 6
7 Luiz MANELLA BRA 149.03 6 8
8 Maurizio ZANDRON ITA 143.19 11 7
9 Noah SCHERER SUI 137.79 13 9
10 Christophe BELLEY-LEMELIN CAN 137.54 10 10
11 Saverio GIACOMELLI ITA 131.99 14 11
12 Igor REZNICHENKO UKR 125.87 12 13
13 Filippo AMBROSINI ITA 125.64 8 15
14 Victor BUSTAMANTE ESP 125.31 16 12
15 Ondrej SPIEGL SWE 125.08 9 14
16 Marco ZAKOURIL CZE 116.32 18 16
17 Yoji TSUBOI JPN 114.79 17 17
18 Shu NAKAMURA JPN 113.71 15 19
19 Vlad IONESCU ROU 107.80 19 18
20 Oliver PORTER AUS 96.67 21 21
21 Krysztof GALA POL 96.24 25 20
22 Julian Zhi Jie YEE MAS 92.95 23 22
23 Leonardo MAEKAWA MORENO MEX 92.84 20 23
24 Lap Kan YUEN HKG 81.46 24 24
25 Suchet KONGCHIM THA 80.30 22 26
26 Adil ZHARBOLOV KAZ 71.34 26 25
1 Han YAN CHN 147.30 75.60 71.70 7.39 6.93 7.14 7.18 7.21 0.00 #23
2 Jason BROWN USA 125.91 58.17 68.74 6.79 6.79 6.86 6.93 7.00 1.00 #21
3 Artur DMITRIEV RUS 121.20 59.84 63.36 6.46 6.18 6.29 6.43 6.32 2.00 #24
4 June-Hyoung LEE KOR 118.50 57.52 60.98 6.18 5.89 6.07 6.14 6.21 0.00 #25
5 Jay YOSTANTO USA 105.47 48.83 56.64 6.00 5.50 5.64 5.64 5.54 0.00 #26
6 Martin RAPPE GER 101.81 53.01 50.80 5.36 4.79 5.14 5.11 5.00 2.00 #19
7 Maurizio ZANDRON ITA 98.50 46.86 52.64 5.29 5.07 5.25 5.32 5.39 1.00 #20
8 Luiz MANELLA BRA 96.89 46.89 53.00 5.57 5.18 5.25 5.36 5.14 3.00 #22
9 Noah SCHERER SUI 94.02 47.74 46.28 4.89 4.43 4.64 4.54 4.64 0.00 #11
10 Christophe BELLEY-LEMELIN CAN 92.55 44.31 49.24 5.00 4.61 5.04 4.93 5.04 1.00 #16
11 Saverio GIACOMELLI ITA 88.23 42.45 46.78 4.86 4.39 4.64 4.75 4.75 1.00 #12
12 Victor BUSTAMANTE ESP 84.10 38.62 46.48 4.64 4.43 4.71 4.64 4.82 1.00 #13
13 Igor REZNICHENKO UKR 81.65 37.71 45.94 4.75 4.54 4.57 4.61 4.50 2.00 #14
14 Ondrej SPIEGL SWE 79.66 29.80 50.86 5.18 4.86 5.11 5.07 5.21 1.00 #17
15 Filippo AMBROSINI ITA 79.51 32.95 48.56 4.86 4.64 4.82 4.96 5.00 2.00 #18
16 Marco ZAKOURIL CZE 75.67 37.79 38.88 4.04 3.61 3.86 3.93 4.00 1.00 #6
17 Yoji TSUBOI JPN 74.08 31.14 44.94 4.86 4.39 4.36 4.50 4.36 2.00 #9
18 Vlad IONESCU ROU 72.37 33.23 40.14 4.25 3.89 3.93 4.04 3.96 1.00 #8
19 Shu NAKAMURA JPN 70.48 28.92 43.56 4.54 4.21 4.14 4.46 4.43 2.00 #15
20 Krysztof GALA POL 66.93 34.43 33.50 3.68 3.11 3.32 3.43 3.21 1.00 #3
21 Oliver PORTER AUS 64.44 29.30 36.14 3.96 3.29 3.75 3.64 3.43 1.00 #7
22 Julian Zhi Jie YEE MAS 62.04 30.48 32.56 3.57 2.93 3.39 3.25 3.14 1.00 #1
23 Leonardo MAEKAWA MORENO MEX 59.50 22.44 38.06 3.86 3.71 3.71 3.89 3.86 1.00 #10
24 Lap Kan YUEN HKG 51.61 23.33 31.28 3.46 2.86 3.21 3.11 3.00 3.00 #5
25 Adil ZHARBOLOV KAZ 49.31 18.51 32.80 3.50 3.04 3.21 3.29 3.36 2.00 #2
26 Suchet KONGCHIM THA 48.97 23.41 29.56 3.43 2.71 3.00 2.89 2.75 4.00 #4
OVERALL
1 Han YAN CHN 219.37 1 1
2 Jason BROWN USA 194.28 2 2
3 June-Hyoung LEE KOR 176.48 4 4
4 Artur DMITRIEV RUS 174.19 5 3
5 Jay YOSTANTO USA 164.27 3 5
6 Martin RAPPE GER 152.51 7 6
7 Luiz MANELLA BRA 149.03 6 8
8 Maurizio ZANDRON ITA 143.19 11 7
9 Noah SCHERER SUI 137.79 13 9
10 Christophe BELLEY-LEMELIN CAN 137.54 10 10
11 Saverio GIACOMELLI ITA 131.99 14 11
12 Igor REZNICHENKO UKR 125.87 12 13
13 Filippo AMBROSINI ITA 125.64 8 15
14 Victor BUSTAMANTE ESP 125.31 16 12
15 Ondrej SPIEGL SWE 125.08 9 14
16 Marco ZAKOURIL CZE 116.32 18 16
17 Yoji TSUBOI JPN 114.79 17 17
18 Shu NAKAMURA JPN 113.71 15 19
19 Vlad IONESCU ROU 107.80 19 18
20 Oliver PORTER AUS 96.67 21 21
21 Krysztof GALA POL 96.24 25 20
22 Julian Zhi Jie YEE MAS 92.95 23 22
23 Leonardo MAEKAWA MORENO MEX 92.84 20 23
24 Lap Kan YUEN HKG 81.46 24 24
25 Suchet KONGCHIM THA 80.30 22 26
26 Adil ZHARBOLOV KAZ 71.34 26 25
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Han Yan smokes the field, especially on technical content! Amazing. Congrats to the medalists and particularly to Korean Jun Hyoung-Lee who grabbed the bronze over my expected pick, Dmitriev. I thought maybe Jason Brown would try his 3A and hoped that this was what he went down on (if you have to fall, at least let it be on something heroic. 
) But alas, after seeing the protocols, it was not so. Kudos to Yostanto for landing his 3A-2T and even with some +GOE.
I still say "splatfest" with 22 out of 26 men down. Let us hope ladies and dance doesn't follow the same pattern.
) But alas, after seeing the protocols, it was not so. Kudos to Yostanto for landing his 3A-2T and even with some +GOE. I still say "splatfest" with 22 out of 26 men down. Let us hope ladies and dance doesn't follow the same pattern.
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He has a quad, it's a shame that he lost to boys without even 3A... Two deductions and no chance for final. He broke my heart. - Joined
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Yes Dmitriev's final placement here is sad. That Oda-like mental lapse of screwing up what jumps/combos belonged in the SP was what sunk his boat, otherwise he'd be on the podium here.
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Yeah, too bad for Dimitriev. 
How did he mess up his SP like that? Is he competing in both Senior and Junior?
How did he mess up his SP like that? Is he competing in both Senior and Junior?Yes, but not in this season yet. May be he prepairs now for some senior competition. Anyway, congratulations to all medalists. Everyone deserved his place.
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Artur Dmitriev deserves a special prize for one of the most amusing mistakes. It seems he forgot that this is junior competition, not senior one and a mandatory jump is lutz but not axel. He made 3F, 3A and 3L+3T, loosing the last combo and a lot of points. It would be sad if it wasn't so funny.
Actually looked as if he were going to tack the 3T onto the flip but didn't check properly on the landing and then when he got to the Lutz went "wait, haven't done a combo yet!"
I'm sure both Jason and his coach know it. That's why he is practicing 3A. He didn't introduce 3A here because his jump is not consistent enough, yet. Let's hope Jason's 3A is ready by JGPF. :yes:
Yeah!!! Brown was beaten by a 15 years old skater with 25 points in this competition... And he was beaten in PCS, too. Brown is a beautiful skater, but maybe in training his jumping has not gotten as much attention as needed? In my opinion he also lacks speed and attack.
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But jumping training isn't only about revolutions. I think Brown's team are not choosing to put a 3A in competition before it's ready. (He did try them during summer competitions, but he's received << on them so far). So if I was his coach, why would I have him risk getting a << in international competition when he do a beautiful 2A and get + GOE on it? Me thinks is he's practicing it and we'll see it sooner than later.
He has great edging (he does not flutz or lip) and great flow out of his jumps, me thinks that is just as important as the number of revolutions. We've seen cases of people rushing to have all these jumps in their arsenals only to suffer because they didn't learn proper technique. And I disagree about lack of attack,there is no tentativeness when he jumps -- he goes and commits to each and every jump. I think his team expects the same of his Axel. They won't do it if he can't show that same commitment.
I think his team has great attention to detail -- that's why he's been able to beat skaters with 3A. They don't just focus on the jumps -- they have soaked so many points on his nonjump elements -- in his short program he got ALL LEVEL 4 -- even the step sequence!
Also, Brown is not that old as you seem to indicate. He's 16 (he'll turn 17 in December). He's a little over a year older than Han.
So if he wants to be the best, yes he needs the 3A. But am I worried? Hardly.
Yes, Brown is a good spinner, but Yan is not bad either (in sp he got twice the level 4). By the way, in the freeskate Brown got < mark twice. Yan got -1.57 for the 4T, but otherwise all his jumps were clean as a whistle. And he has a great flow out of his jumps, too. Also they are really effortless and his speed is awesome. Actually young Kulik came into my mind as I watched Yan´s jumping and speed.
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Courtney Hicks just withdrew from the FS 
No JGPF for her, she must be injured...
No JGPF for her, she must be injured...
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Oh dear, not great for the USA. Courtney Hicks out. John Nicks isn't the type who would pull her out without something being wrong though. She must be either injured or ill.
I'm not disputing Han's skills at all! Obviously he's very good. He's the reigning JGPF silver medalist, after all, so I expect him to be the standard bearer on things.
I simply was responding that I don't think Brown has anything to worry about. Yet. I think his team has been good about advancing him at the right times. Based on last season, I think there's still a lot of good stuff to come. He is not an early season skater, so the fact he's done relatively well early in the season means that he's doing the right things so far.
Obviously if he enters seniors internationally next year without a solid 3A (a la Adam Rippon) then I would start worrying.
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Wow, Julia Lipnitskaia just eclipsed Sotnikova's score from last year!
119.34 FS and total of 183.05!
119.34 FS and total of 183.05!
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