COVID-19: Coping and Social Distancing

Ducky

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I'm a little worried we will see a spike in cases in the U.S. Mothers day weekend a lot of people were out. And with Memorial day weekend coming up, it's a little scary.

The problem with the US is that we're one nation but 50 separate states -- hooray federalism! -- with different laws and different governments in each one. I don't even think the President could declare a nationwide quarantine or curfew, and if he were to at this stage states such as Texas or Georgia could sue the federal government for over reach and the Supreme court could issue a stay until they decide whether or not it's constitutionally allowed for him to do so.

I was talking to a barista today about when we think people in NYC will break and just stop adhering to social distancing mandates -- and not is a let's hang out in the park on a sunny day 6 ft away from each other way but in a screw it, block party way -- and both agreed that once the first heat wave hits everything is going to go out the window. Otoh, I think by now most New Yorkers know first hand people who have had Covid-19 -- I currently have a former colleague who is in King's County being treated for it after losing his mom to it; he's currently complaining about now having a roommate so I'm assuming he's pulling through, and someone's put up posters around the neighborhood memorializing a man who recently died as a reminder to people to wear masks -- so a lot of interaction is tempered with social distancing especially outside.
 

TontoK

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The mortality rate in the US is 5.4%. It is currently the leading cause of death in the US. I can’t keep up with other countries very well. New Zealand almost completely escaped it, but they shut the country down and didn’t even allow their own citizens re entry (they can enter now, but have to quarantine for 2 weeks in a government facility).

What I meant was that recent events seem to indicate that many more people than we first thought have had the virus and have recovered from it... most of them not even knowing they had it.

To be honest, I think this is the case with my wife. Shortly after we returned from a Christmas Cruise, she had some sort of respiratory illness that went on for months, and it was resistant to antibiotics, which means it had to have been viral. At first I thought it couldn't be that, but now we are learning that the spread began earlier than first thought... so I can't help but wonder.

And, if she had it, then I surely did, although I did not have symptoms.
 

CoyoteChris

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What I meant was that recent events seem to indicate that many more people than we first thought have had the virus and have recovered from it... most of them not even knowing they had it.

To be honest, I think this is the case with my wife. Shortly after we returned from a Christmas Cruise, she had some sort of respiratory illness that went on for months, and it was resistant to antibiotics, which means it had to have been viral. At first I thought it couldn't be that, but now we are learning that the spread began earlier than first thought... so I can't help but wonder.

And, if she had it, then I surely did, although I did not have symptoms.

Correct. Random studies in CA to MI have shown the antibodies in many who had no symptoms. Until we get the good accurate serum tests out there, no one will know how many were infected but I suspect that it isnt 50 times the current number as the CA studies show, but could easily be 20 times the current number, putting the death rate in the toilet.....It astounds me that half of Americans refuse to get a flu shot, killing thousands of their countrymen, and themselves....yet all the hysteria on the news is about Covid. Yes, its serious. So is the flu, drunk drivers, and texting behind the wheel, heart desease, cancer, and a whole lot of other things. Facts, not fear.
 

moonvine

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Correct. Random studies in CA to MI have shown the antibodies in many who had no symptoms. Until we get the good accurate serum tests out there, no one will know how many were infected but I suspect that it isnt 50 times the current number as the CA studies show, but could easily be 20 times the current number, putting the death rate in the toilet.....It astounds me that half of Americans refuse to get a flu shot, killing thousands of their countrymen, and themselves....yet all the hysteria on the news is about Covid. Yes, its serious. So is the flu, drunk drivers, and texting behind the wheel, heart desease, cancer, and a whole lot of other things. Facts, not fear.

The problem is none of those things, other than flu, is contagious, and there is a flu vaccine, though not enough of us take it. Skating isn’t being disrupted by drunk driving or cancer. The flu isn’t keeping me from seeing Gracie. COVID is.
 
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