Pepe u r asking mods to censor even more. It has been said many a time here Hanyu is very soft looking. He is feminine in face and build. We can have a separate discussion on that. People have said Agnes seemed masculine. No one jumped up. But to attack me or imply I agree with or have influenced Russia's anti gay laws is ridiculous and harmful to me.
It was at first a light thread. naturally, a gay male poster is going to find Hanyu tame, comp. to Fire Island looks, Key West, so on so on. That's in your LGBT culture, clubs, parades etc and what has become acceptable is miles away fro comp. figure skating, or maybe should be. Iy is prickly to discuss but I want to be clear that USA FS iss on life support. IJS needs to make changes. The costumes are fun to laugh at but I am disturbed at the negligees on young girls. The majority were in consensus re this trend for girls getting worse. I like Hanyu-But I think men there are being allowed to go too far.
But answer this, is it an Olympic sport with requirements or performance art. This has nothing to do with being gay. But most will now avoid thread after Toni "didn't get it." Mod wet blanket effect, lol. Just kidding Toni. I'd rather go back to simple dresse sthan have to see someone's butt crack as Tolusai put it,. Obscene and shame on the ISU. I think they have failed their athletes as people. I'm done with the attack poryion
Perhaps someone will start a serious discussion about why costumes may be detracting at this point.
I know it is not new. Look at Doro in 1976. Then look at costumes in 80's. The decline, changes, abberrations began in that decade.
The cultural icons were Madonna and Michael Jackson. Need I say more? Everyone skated to their music/emulated their looks.
BUT, should FS have allowed such craziness? I think Singles, pairs need reigning in. Ice dance is about acting, portraying a character, or a theme of the classical ballroom. They need more leeway to express. I hope this clarifies-I won't address anyone who thinks I'm like Putin because I thinh THE SPORT needs limits. It is not a burlesque nor a drag type show.
May felt Johnny pushed way to far while skating. I agree. Apparently IMG, Smuckerss Hamilton all agreed. Sport? the direction is reform or retro. Something else? Not sport, then I suppose anything goes.
Why is the sport dead? Identity issue/ Sport? Art? Both? Performance art/glamour pageant?
North Americans are definitely in a diff place re costumes than Russia/Europe. Partly cultural for me, buso -what is appropriate comp. skating attire? I think we all know when we see it. So many fashionista shows on tv-very little werable cloythes. Shock value and sexy attire do get people's attention. Smutty culture-TV saturated very sadly,
