How do they decide who goes first in events?
- Thread starter SeaniBu
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Starting order
The starting orders differ depending on whether the competition is qualifying or non-qualifying. For qualifying competitions the rules are very strict, you'd need a rules book to say exactly how orders are chosen.
But let's say you have 18 skaters in the short program. For the freeskate you'll have three groups of six, the top six in the short will skate in the last group, the bottom six in the short will skate in the first group and the middle stay middle. That's why you always see the best skate last. Within those groups you'll have a draw to see who skates when.
If you really want to get technical I'll get my rulebook....
NC
The starting orders differ depending on whether the competition is qualifying or non-qualifying. For qualifying competitions the rules are very strict, you'd need a rules book to say exactly how orders are chosen.
But let's say you have 18 skaters in the short program. For the freeskate you'll have three groups of six, the top six in the short will skate in the last group, the bottom six in the short will skate in the first group and the middle stay middle. That's why you always see the best skate last. Within those groups you'll have a draw to see who skates when.
If you really want to get technical I'll get my rulebook....
NC
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I have read that for the big events broadcast live, like nationals, the TV people are pushing for changes to make for a more dramatic show. They want, so I understand, to have two draws for the final flight of six, so that the top three after the short program will go last (in random order), and numbers 4 - 6 first.
The new executive director, coming from a background in television producing and public relations rather than skating, seems to be receptive to this sort of thing, as I understand it.
Is anything like this in the works, Numberscruncher?
Mathman
The new executive director, coming from a background in television producing and public relations rather than skating, seems to be receptive to this sort of thing, as I understand it.
Is anything like this in the works, Numberscruncher?
Mathman
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- Feb 28, 2005
TV Rule
Mathman,
It's already in place for US Nats.
"At the U.S. Figure Skating Championships only, for the championship (senior) ladies, men, and pairs free skate, and for championship (senior) free dance events, the final draw group shall consist of:
Ladies and men: six (6) competitiors in the final group;
a. Starting order for the final group will be drawn in two sub-groups.
i. The top three (3) finishers in the short program shall be the last to skate in the final group, and will be drawn from one(1) subgroup.
ii. The 4th, 5th and 6th place finishers in the short program will be the firstt to skate in the final group, and will draw from the other subgroup;
Pairs: four(4) couple in the final group;
Dance: five (5) couple in the final group."
All starting orders are tied to the maximum numbers allowed in warm-up groups, there are tables galore. No accountant ever goes to a competition without their rule book. The experienced accountants just love to watch us junior folk run to our books to try to figure this stuff out! But they also tell us, "Never think you know it, always check!"
NC
Mathman,
It's already in place for US Nats.
"At the U.S. Figure Skating Championships only, for the championship (senior) ladies, men, and pairs free skate, and for championship (senior) free dance events, the final draw group shall consist of:
Ladies and men: six (6) competitiors in the final group;
a. Starting order for the final group will be drawn in two sub-groups.
i. The top three (3) finishers in the short program shall be the last to skate in the final group, and will be drawn from one(1) subgroup.
ii. The 4th, 5th and 6th place finishers in the short program will be the firstt to skate in the final group, and will draw from the other subgroup;
Pairs: four(4) couple in the final group;
Dance: five (5) couple in the final group."
All starting orders are tied to the maximum numbers allowed in warm-up groups, there are tables galore. No accountant ever goes to a competition without their rule book. The experienced accountants just love to watch us junior folk run to our books to try to figure this stuff out! But they also tell us, "Never think you know it, always check!"
NC
- Joined
- Feb 28, 2005
Orders
Seanibu - Glad to help, it's always fun to pull out my rule book and dig around for things.
I've been around the board for more than a year, but rarely post because I'm more of a fact person and not much for speculation. It's just fun to see what's happening with skaters and those who love them.
NC
Seanibu - Glad to help, it's always fun to pull out my rule book and dig around for things.
I've been around the board for more than a year, but rarely post because I'm more of a fact person and not much for speculation. It's just fun to see what's happening with skaters and those who love them.
NC
