I compiled MIF/FS/Dance test stats for entire US

1111bm

Final Flight
Joined
Dec 31, 2016
Wow, you don’t have to do doubles for adult gold FS?? Lucky lol, we do here. And axel for silver.
It would be interesting to compare levels in top countries. It feels like the US has the most thorough testing levels, maybe followed by Canada. No idea what they do in Japan or Russia. But other countries seem so bare bones and have fewer levels and requirements.

Regarding Adult FS levels, I would assume most countries follow the Technical Requirements for International Adult Figure Skating competitions held under the authorization and support of the ISU, since these are also meant to be a recommendation for other Adult competitions held by ISU members. So it would make sense to base any test structure on them as well.

Fwiw though, we don't have test levels specifically for Adults in my home country, it's the same for everyone no matter your current age or the age you started at. Those tests are kind of meaningless for anyone who only competes at recreational and/or Adult competitions though, since you can just sign up for any competition level you want no matter your actual skill level, since you don't need to have passed a certain test to be able do so (this is also true for one of the biggest ISU sanctioned Adult competitions, the one in Oberstdorf).

And yes, single Axel has long been part of the Silver level. There's no 'official ISU level' below Bronze though, but most countries have included a version of their own called Pre-Bronze or sth. similar in their competition structure. This was necessary, since many skaters don't have sufficient skills to realistically compete in Bronze and the Bronze category is usually the one with the greatest number of participants and the biggest range of skill level anyway. So it made sense to split up the field and give skaters the opportunity to compete at a level that's more appropriate to their skills and have a more rewarding competition experience.

Intermediate thru Senior is the same test elements for adults, but they get judged at adult passing standard.

I don't like the idea of this, it feels patronising. Apparently the judging at some competitions can be at times less strict for Adults, but I'm not aware of any official rules for that, so it's probably just determined by the panel on a given day.

I remember one time, when we held our yearly club competition including Adult categories, a group of older Adults later on complained about their scores, because our panel didn't judge them by the, and I quote, "more lax Adult standard" that they expected based on how they were judged at other competitions. Things like single jumps not being completely around, sit spins not being low enough or the free leg in a camel spin not being held high enough.
I also remember one time watching the Bronze category at the Oberstdorf Adult competition a few years back, and I'm not exaggerating, 99 % of the skaters did a Toe-Waltz, but all of them were called as a successful single Toe Loop (I believe they're more strict now, though).
 

cl2

Final Flight
Joined
Nov 9, 2014
Everything up to Adult Intermediate MIF and up to Adult Silver FS I consider "easy" because it only takes a few months per test to pass. It's when you hit axel in Adult Gold FS and Novice MIF that things get much tougher and it takes years instead of months to pass. The kids definitely pass faster than the adults, but their passing rate slows down at these "landmarks" as well.
The transition between Juv/Adult Gold and Int/Nov is where judges start becoming more exacting about things like edge quality, mastery and control. There are Juvs/Gold who could achieve passing quality for the earlier tests who yet somehow failed to acquire certain fundamentals to transition seamlessly to the Int/Nov skills.
 

Sunshine247

On the Ice
Joined
Dec 17, 2018
Thanks for the info. It will be interesting to see how the lockdown will affect these stats. I know lately many of our skaters have focused on moves and testing in general. I think many have hit a wall and can’t test much more or they will skip a level of FS for competition. And experience with a program/level seems important.

My skater might not test the next levelFS so she stays eligible for the FS level she’s comfortable at for competition. (not sandbagging, she just moved up a level) Not sure what her coach is thinking but I know they just started re-working her program to include new skills, so that might change.

My younger just tested Juvenile MIF about 2 months after the pre-juve moves but she basically spent so many hours on it, it was probably about the same as a years time. lol. Both my skaters started testing kinda late, so when we made a coaching switch, the new coach was catching them up on testing. Both have tested up to Juve MIF in about 2 years from Pre-pre, so seems like statistical trends are pretty accurate.
 
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