Investigation for child endangerment by coach in Hungary

[sissy7]

Sad and infuriating news regarding sport oversight, and the culture of figure skating.
The police are investigating allegations of child endangerement of a figure skating coach, along with Prosecution offices of 4th and 15th Districts of Budapest. The official stance is that they can't disclose any names involved. Sorry I only have in Hungarian sources:

Kiskorú veszélyeztetése a magyar műkorcsolyában: megtörtént a gyanúsítás, nyomoz az ügyészség

Kiskorú veszélyeztetése: vizsgálati szakaszban tart az a magyar műkorcsolyasportot érintő nyomozás, ami a 2010-es és a 2020-as éveket felölelő ügyben zajlik.

www.eurosport.hu

Unofficially, there has been reports against Gór-Sebestyén Júlia, 2014 European Champion, the most decorated Hungarian single skater since World War I. And apperantly the federation has helped sweep those under the rug until they could
More details in the link, hope google translate works:

Válasz Online: gyanúsított lett Sebestyén Júlia műkorcsolyaedző | 24.hu

Gyanúsítotti kihallagtás történt a magyar műkorcsolyában kiskorú veszélyeztetése miatt indult ügyben. A Válasz Online szerint Gór-Sebestyén Júliáról van szó.

24.hu

Edit: sorry, the year for should have been 2004

 

[Diana Delafield]

Sad and infuriating news regarding sport oversight, and the culture of figure skating.
The police are investigating allegations of child endangerement of a figure skating coach, along with Prosecution offices of 4th and 15th Districts of Budapest. The official stance is that they can't disclose any names involved. Sorry I only have in Hungarian sources:

Kiskorú veszélyeztetése a magyar műkorcsolyában: megtörtént a gyanúsítás, nyomoz az ügyészség

Kiskorú veszélyeztetése: vizsgálati szakaszban tart az a magyar műkorcsolyasportot érintő nyomozás, ami a 2010-es és a 2020-as éveket felölelő ügyben zajlik.

www.eurosport.hu

Unofficially, there has been reports against Gór-Sebestyén Júlia, 2014 European Champion, the most decorated Hungarian single skater since World War I. And apperantly the federation has helped sweep those under the rug until they could
More details in the link, hope google translate works:

Válasz Online: gyanúsított lett Sebestyén Júlia műkorcsolyaedző | 24.hu

Gyanúsítotti kihallagtás történt a magyar műkorcsolyában kiskorú veszélyeztetése miatt indult ügyben. A Válasz Online szerint Gór-Sebestyén Júliáról van szó.

24.hu

The English translations were actually quite good, but the video didn't play in Canada. However, the second link, the article, did give the details of accusations of bullying by the coach. One point that wasn't quite clear in the translation: Was she a judge in the Olympics pairs event?

 

[rinkside_user]

I'm hopeful there will be consequences this time. The claims and testimonies detailing her abuse are mounting while the fed is covering up. She really is a disgrace and has no place in any sport.

The English translations were actually quite good, but the video didn't play in Canada. However, the second link, the article, did give the details of accusations of bullying by the coach. One point that wasn't quite clear in the translation: Was she a judge in the Olympics pairs event?

No, she just made a comment on Pavlova/Sviatchenko as the recently appointed figure skating department head of the sport club where P/S train. If anything, she used to be on tech panels but was never a judge, AFAIK.

 

[sissy7]

The English translations were actually quite good, but the video didn't play in Canada. However, the second link, the article, did give the details of accusations of bullying by the coach. One point that wasn't quite clear in the translation: Was she a judge in the Olympics pairs event?

No, she wasn't. The Hungarian judge at the Olympics was a man named Soós Attila.
I haven't checked what Google Translate would get you, but the article only makes mention of the fact that she, even while under investigation, has been selected tby a prestigious sporting club to lead the revival of their figure skating program, and has been asked for her opinion by media about the Hungarian pairs' performance at Milano- this tracks, as she is still the highest profile ex-athlete who currently coaches.

Honestly, I don't look forward to telling my mom about this...when Júlia was competing, she meant a lot to us...It is always heartbreaking to have your happy memories tainted...

And those poor kids

 

[Diana Delafield]

No, she wasn't. The Hungarian judge at the Olympics was a man named Soós Attila.
I haven't checked what Google Translate would get you, but the article only makes mention of the fact that she, even while under investigation, has been selected tby a prestigious sporting club to lead the revival of their figure skating program, and has been asked for her opinion by media about the Hungarian pairs' performance at Milano- this tracks, as she is still the highest profile ex-athlete who currently coaches.

Honestly, I don't look forward to telling my mom about this...when Júlia was competing, she meant a lot to us...It is always heartbreaking to have your happy memories tainted...

And those poor kids

and for your mother. I remember Julia's name from the past, but not much else about her as a skater.

 

[DizzyFrenchie]

Sad and infuriating news regarding sport oversight, and the culture of figure skating.
The police are investigating allegations of child endangerement of a figure skating coach, along with Prosecution offices of 4th and 15th Districts of Budapest. The official stance is that they can't disclose any names involved. Sorry I only have in Hungarian sources:

Kiskorú veszélyeztetése a magyar műkorcsolyában: megtörtént a gyanúsítás, nyomoz az ügyészség

Kiskorú veszélyeztetése: vizsgálati szakaszban tart az a magyar műkorcsolyasportot érintő nyomozás, ami a 2010-es és a 2020-as éveket felölelő ügyben zajlik.

www.eurosport.hu

Unofficially, there has been reports against Gór-Sebestyén Júlia, 2014 European Champion, the most decorated Hungarian single skater since World War I. And apperantly the federation has helped sweep those under the rug until they could
More details in the link, hope google translate works:

Válasz Online: gyanúsított lett Sebestyén Júlia műkorcsolyaedző | 24.hu

Gyanúsítotti kihallagtás történt a magyar műkorcsolyában kiskorú veszélyeztetése miatt indult ügyben. A Válasz Online szerint Gór-Sebestyén Júliáról van szó.

24.hu

Is it right or a mistranslation, that the Hungarian Federation reduced the delay to complain to only one year after the alleged facts, which allowed them to dismiss some complaints? They're "worth" the French Federation under Didier Gailhaguet...

 

[sissy7]

Is it right or a mistranslation, that the Hungarian Federation reduced the delay to complain to only one year after the alleged facts, which allowed them to dismiss some complaints? They're "worth" the French Federation under Didier Gailhaguet...

Right, no mistranslation

 

[dorispulaski]

I remember Julia for huge triple lutzes, done off a beautiful outside edge

 

[ladyjane]

I remember Julia from when she became European Champion in 2004, and I was so happy for her. Queen of Lutzes. This is sad.

 

[Ivana]

I had to check the year, because I clearly remember the rumors about Julia already years ago around the time Ivett Toth left her. It's sad that nothing has been done since then, although not surprising given how Hungarian fed operates.

 

[sissy7]

I had to check the year, because I clearly remember the rumors about Julia already years ago around the time Ivett Toth left her. It's sad that nothing has been done since then, although not surprising given how Hungarian fed operates.

Yeah rumors have been around...the fact that it took years to be any official investigation is all the more disgusting

 

[sissy7]

Apperantly, one of the athlete's involved with her abuse is Berei Mózes József, current junior pairs skater with Lily Wilberforce. His mum came forward on FB

 

[skatedreamer]

Is it right or a mistranslation, that the Hungarian Federation reduced the delay to complain to only one year after the alleged facts, which allowed them to dismiss some complaints? They're "worth" the French Federation under Didier Gailhaguet...

Gailhaguet is a real piece of work. I recently watched a couple of documentaries about the 2002 judging mess in Salt Lake City -- couldn't believe his sleazy brazenness.

 

[rinkside_user]

There were other news, I think two years ago, where she and her husband stated all those people coming forward, among them children and parents, were lying, simple as that. Class act.

 

[rinkside_user]

From the largest independent news outlet from Hungary:
original article:

„Sebestyén Júlia több gyerekkel is úgy bánt, ahogy velem: erőszakkal, megfélemlítéssel, megalázóan”

A 18 éves műkorcsolyázó, Zsembery Katinka részletesen beszámolt arról, min ment keresztül, amíg az Európa-bajnok Sebestyén Júlia volt az edzője. A rendőrség még tavaly kiskorú veszélyeztetésével vádolta meg az edzőt.

telex.hu

machine translated:

„Sebestyén Júlia több gyerekkel is úgy bánt, ahogy velem: erőszakkal, megfélemlítéssel, megalázóan”

A 18 éves műkorcsolyázó, Zsembery Katinka részletesen beszámolt arról, min ment keresztül, amíg az Európa-bajnok Sebestyén Júlia volt az edzője. A rendőrség még tavaly kiskorú veszélyeztetésével vádolta meg az edzőt.

telex-hu.translate.goog

 

[ladyjane]

How terribly sad. To my own memories (but that had already happened earlier) but especially for the young skaters.

 

[Tutto]

That is awful. And I have always wondered if Ivett Toth who showed so much promise, would have had a better career, had she stayed with Julia. I remember they parted so suddenly, and Ivett's results went downhill afterwards. Silly me, I thought it was the case of a teenager rebellion. Just shows that one should never rush to conclusions...

 

[sissy7]

Original source, pawall

Gór-Sebestyén Júlia ügyét vádemelési javaslattal zárja le a rendőrség | 24.hu

A 2004-ben Európa-bajnoki címet szerző műkorcsolyázónővel szemben több mint három éve érkezett az első szülői bejelentés gyermekbántalmazás miatt Kósa Lajos műkorcsolya-szövetségéhez. A napokban megtö

24.hu

Re-reporting(tabloid)

Most jött a hír: vádemelési javaslattal zárja le Sebestyén Júlia műkorcsolyaedző ügyét a rendőrség

Folytatódik az ügy, amely a hazai műkorcsolyázás egészét megrázta. 2023-ban a Magyar Országos Korcsolyázó-szövetséget (MOKSZ) több szülő is azzal kereste meg, hogy a sportolóként Európa-bajnokságot nyerő, majd edzőként dolgozó Sebestyén Júlia módszere és emberi magatartása nem megfelelő. Az edző...

www.blikk.hu

Update: the police concluded their investigation, and recommmend prosecution of Sebetyén Júlia for child abuse. Let's see what charges will be brought under the new administration....