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this is awesome thanks to everyone for the live updates... i cant wait to see it on tv... even tho im disapppointed with joannies skate.
 
Aside from the PCS thing, I find it somewhat controversial that Hughes beat Rochette while flouting the rules, deliberately performing two lutzes and two flips with nary a combination in sight. I know she would have gotten the required deduction, but with other rules in play, such as the bonus for the second ones being in the back half of the program, was it really enough of a deduction from discouraging a skater from doing it again? I don't know that I've ever seen this come up in such a significant way before.
 
nine points ahead of emily. that's a lot! even with the popped flip. Good girl for saving the program. i must say, kimmie has grown on me. SHe really knows how to focus and not let thiese things distract her. That's somthing Sasha could never quite do. Except i torino. she was stunning after the falls. just stunning. perhaps her best. well anyway enough tears. thanks for the results!!!!
 
wow. That's quite a big difference there in scores. But she's gonna need to land both 3-3's in Tokyo if she wants to repeat.

what is the advantage of doing 2 3/3s? you can only do 7triples max so going for 2 3/3s would be more risky and nothing more?
 
triple triples are worth a lot. kimmie's 3 lutz, triple toe is worth 9. somthing points.
 
what is the advantage of doing 2 3/3s? you can only do 7triples max so going for 2 3/3s would be more risky and nothing more?
Without a 3Axel you can do 5 solo triples and 2 more in combination making 9 triples in total possible if both combos are 3-3.
 
Aside from the PCS thing, I find it somewhat controversial that Hughes beat Rochette while flouting the rules, deliberately performing two lutzes and two flips with nary a combination in sight. I know she would have gotten the required deduction, but with other rules in play, such as the bonus for the second ones being in the back half of the program, was it really enough of a deduction from discouraging a skater from doing it again? I don't know that I've ever seen this come up in such a significant way before.

Good point. Was this a mistake or a crafty tactical move by the Hughes team? Since the new judging system is all about statistics - do you think the new way of coaching elite skaters is to weigh the odds of landing the triple combinations against falling, if the previous skaters tank on their jumps?
 
1 Kimmie MEISSNER USA 120.26 61.10 59.16 7.46 7.17 7.46 7.38 7.50 0.00 #23
2 Emily HUGHES USA 111.26 54.73 56.53 7.25 6.79 7.21 7.00 7.08 0.00 #21
3 Joannie ROCHETTE CAN 109.30 55.03 54.27 6.92 6.63 6.83 6.75 6.79 0.00 #20
4 Yoshie ONDA JPN 103.23 55.80 47.43 6.17 5.71 6.00 5.88 5.88 0.00 #13
5 Aki SAWADA JPN 101.75 52.38 49.37 6.42 5.96 6.21 6.13 6.13 0.00 #24
6 Alissa CZISNY USA 99.39 48.78 53.61 6.83 6.46 6.67 6.71 6.83 3.00 #19
7 Lesley HAWKER CAN 97.17 54.71 42.46 5.50 5.04 5.42 5.33 5.25 0.00 #12
8 Binshu XU CHN 86.27 44.54 41.73 5.58 5.08 5.21 5.17 5.04 0.00 #14
9 Yea-Ji SHIN KOR 81.23 44.30 37.93 4.92 4.54 4.79 4.71 4.75 1.00 #11
10 Na-Young KIM KOR 79.00 44.48 34.52 4.83 4.04 4.29 4.29 4.13 0.00 #10
11 Cynthia PHANEUF CAN 77.87 38.79 41.08 5.21 4.79 5.21 5.21 5.25 2.00 #7
12 Anastasia GIMAZETDINOVA UZB 77.24 37.09 41.15 5.38 5.00 5.13 5.17 5.04 1.00 #17
13 Dan FANG CHN 76.64 36.36 40.28 5.33 4.88 4.92 5.08 4.96 0.00 #16
14 Chae-Hwa KIM KOR 74.15 36.55 38.60 5.13 4.58 4.83 4.83 4.75 1.00 #18
15 Yan LIU CHN 73.35 29.54 45.81 6.04 5.54 5.63 5.71 5.71 2.00 #22
16 Joanne CARTER AUS 70.05 32.52 38.53 4.96 4.58 4.79 4.96 4.79 1.00 #8
17 Emily NAPHTAL MEX 64.60 33.32 32.28 4.25 3.83 4.13 4.00 3.96 1.00 #3
18 Ami PAREKH IND 64.16 33.94 31.22 4.13 3.71 3.83 3.92 3.92 1.00 #5
19 Jocelyn HO TPE 62.45 33.16 29.29 3.96 3.38 3.71 3.67 3.58 0.00 #2
20 Ana Cecilia CANTU MEX 61.45 29.08 33.37 4.38 3.92 4.21 4.13 4.21 1.00 #9
21 Michele CANTU MEX 60.97 28.65 32.32 4.08 3.83 4.04 4.17 4.08 0.00 #6
22 Phoebe DI TOMMASO AUS 58.87 27.81 32.06 4.21 3.79 4.00 4.00 4.04 1.00 #4
23 Abigail PIETERSEN RSA 49.09 24.28 25.81 3.50 2.92 3.25 3.25 3.21 1.00 #1

Overall:

1 Kimmie MEISSNER USA 172.75 6 1
2 Emily HUGHES USA 166.60 2 2
3 Joannie ROCHETTE CAN 165.90 1 3
4 Aki SAWADA JPN 156.88 3 5
5 Alissa CZISNY USA 154.03 4 6
6 Yoshie ONDA JPN 152.61 7 4
7 Lesley HAWKER CAN 138.23 16 7
8 Binshu XU CHN 133.09 10 8
 
poor alissa. all the way down in sixth.


as i said earlier, kimmie's consentartion and focus will come out for her in the end. They can all do the jumps, but who can do them under pressure?
 
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