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Buttle will need to be atleast 2nd to make the final. It wont happen unless one of Lambiel or Weir bombs totally and Buttle has one of his best efforts. He is now inferior to both in PCS, probably even with a good skate, Weir is a much better quality jumper, and Lambiel is a superior spinner with more the ability to do quads which Buttle doesnt.
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I was happy with Lambiel's skate right after seeing it and then seeing the score, but now that I think about it more I am not that happy. He still gives up like 7 points with those 2 jump downgrades. I am sick of his missing and downgrading jumps. Why cant he just do all the jumps he is supposed to do like other guys are doing these days.
Maybe he needs a meaner coach.
Maybe he needs a meaner coach.
I'm so happy for Johnny!!! 
I really hope he goes for the quad in the LP!
Oops, just saw Lambiel beating him (so slightly) with a 2A and a 4T-2T. Lower TES but higher PCS. I'm sure having a quad helps to up the PCS, even without the 3A!
All the more reason for Johnny to add the quad in the long. (Not that I have any faith that Lambiel can skate a clean LP...)
I really hope he goes for the quad in the LP!
Oops, just saw Lambiel beating him (so slightly) with a 2A and a 4T-2T. Lower TES but higher PCS. I'm sure having a quad helps to up the PCS, even without the 3A!
All the more reason for Johnny to add the quad in the long. (Not that I have any faith that Lambiel can skate a clean LP...)
His career doesn't sounds very promising... Instead of pursuing an elusive quad, he needs to nail all those triples. Even Patrick Chan's 3A is more reliable than Buttle's, and Patrck is hardly a very consistent jumper ..
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I agree. He is probably best just focusing on all the triples, since the quad is beyond his capabilities.
I figured that Stephane would come to this one "loaded for bear", after CoC, and he did; but he neglected to do the triple axel again, and that matters a great deal to me.
Some male skaters who cannot handle the 3A, can handle it in a combination, which allows them to use up their excess momentum, but they just cannot seem to check the landing of the 3A when it is done by itself.
I truly believe that a triple axel should be mandatory in the short program in Men's skating.
Some male skaters who cannot handle the 3A, can handle it in a combination, which allows them to use up their excess momentum, but they just cannot seem to check the landing of the 3A when it is done by itself.
I truly believe that a triple axel should be mandatory in the short program in Men's skating.
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He has to atleast be doing a quad-triple combination if he is not doing a triple axel. He didnt do either.
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Whether it is new news or not he has to accept the jumping standards of today if he is going to be competitive. You cant be doing quad toe-double toes and double axels in the short program.
That was very interesting competition and especially watching it on Russian feed
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So many voids and great crowd reactions
One of the banners said "Marilyn SUCKS, Jonny RULES!!!" Go figure??
Johnny had huge support from fans and they all looked so happy and cute in KnC with his new coaching team of Victor Petrenko and Galina Zmeevskaya.
I kinda agree with scores, even though I would slightly put Weir ahead of Lambiel.
And what a comeback from Gyrazev, hope he does not self-distract in free aka Buttle in short:scratch:
))So many voids and great crowd reactions
One of the banners said "Marilyn SUCKS, Jonny RULES!!!" Go figure??
Johnny had huge support from fans and they all looked so happy and cute in KnC with his new coaching team of Victor Petrenko and Galina Zmeevskaya.
I kinda agree with scores, even though I would slightly put Weir ahead of Lambiel.
And what a comeback from Gyrazev, hope he does not self-distract in free aka Buttle in short:scratch:
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Well, Jeff did say he was willing to crash this year in order to gain the quad but I'm thinking because of his age now being what is now considered an adult skater, he's got to limit what he does in practice during his events and on the warm ups to save his skating for the event itself. Elvis had to learn that the hard way when he got older too. Plus, is Jeff's back really totally healed? I'm wondering?
Here's praying that Jeff doesn't over do it before the long program and saves all he's got for it and lands everything clean and does everything that was planned PCS sore wise like he did for 2007 Canadians with the jumps all rotated to the fullest and cleanly landed with good flow.
I feel for Jeff. I know what's it's like to be not up to par after a severe injury that takes months and months and even years to heal and then crash in figure skating competition. 2004 Adult Canadians I was a Bronze medallist and then in both 2005 just when the injury started and in 2007 when I came back too soon, I crashed and burned coming either near last or last in my flight. I went from landing almost everything clean and also added to many toe loops to not landing anything clean, not even a waltz jump in 2007. I truly sucked at last years Adult Canadians. Jeff's just having a slump year or two like he did just before he was hot on both the Grand Prix circuit and Worlds because in a weird way, this is a growing year for him and he probably is still coming back from his back injury no matter how much he and Skate Canada are spinning this in the media.
Jeff and Joannie fans and Canadian skaters from all over the land best be praying for them, because they sure need it.
Here's praying that Jeff doesn't over do it before the long program and saves all he's got for it and lands everything clean and does everything that was planned PCS sore wise like he did for 2007 Canadians with the jumps all rotated to the fullest and cleanly landed with good flow.
I feel for Jeff. I know what's it's like to be not up to par after a severe injury that takes months and months and even years to heal and then crash in figure skating competition. 2004 Adult Canadians I was a Bronze medallist and then in both 2005 just when the injury started and in 2007 when I came back too soon, I crashed and burned coming either near last or last in my flight. I went from landing almost everything clean and also added to many toe loops to not landing anything clean, not even a waltz jump in 2007. I truly sucked at last years Adult Canadians. Jeff's just having a slump year or two like he did just before he was hot on both the Grand Prix circuit and Worlds because in a weird way, this is a growing year for him and he probably is still coming back from his back injury no matter how much he and Skate Canada are spinning this in the media.
Jeff and Joannie fans and Canadian skaters from all over the land best be praying for them, because they sure need it.
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That is a nice rosy picture but I doubt it is realistic.
tae, that's just the trouble lol--it's old, old news! And we're tired of it! lol I had to keep typing and erasing and typing again for my last post, because I was trying so hard not to show my feelings. What kind of world champion *male* avoids the triple axel as if it were the plague? Not my kind....
The ISU may change the rules all they wish, but in the end, every member of an audience gets to decide for themselves what they want, and what they respect, medals or no medals. I want every Lady to be able to do a reasonably good layback spin, for example, and I want every Man to be able to do a triple axel, in high-level eligible competition. Spins do not compensate me for the absence of a triple axel from a male, nor, for that matter, do quad toes. That is my personal taste. I prefer a male skater who does a solid triple axel, even without a quad, to a male skater who does a quad toe, but cannot seem to master a triple axel.
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Well the so called favorite for the World womens title this year can apparently no longer do a triple salchow or triple toe either, and we arent even sure if she any longer does the rare female triple axel to make up for that.
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We are talking about Stephane here. Are we not?Joe, we know "it ain't over"; this is just the short program, after all. We just like to celebrate when a skater we appreciate very much does well, thass' all
When he is at his best, he is the best. When he not at his best, he's somebody else but still better than the leaders.
Hope he holds up for the Win. That will make 2 of the previous World Podium still in contention.
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wow! I gotta hand it too him, even without a 3 axel. But the lack of a 3 axel will hurt him in the LP, if Johnny is clean. Johnny always skates well for the russian crowd, so I would expect a big showdown.
Buttle was almost the worst one there. I expected him to gte top three at least... but then again, it's not over till it's over.
Her layback's also pretty atrocious...but looking at last year's podium, you have to go all the way down to Emily Hughes and Joannie Rochette at #9 and #10 to find a decent attitude position in the free leg.
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