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Talk too much?
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Wll, that's the difference between oridinals and CoP. Under ordinal judging we get to place them in the order that we thought they deserved, and assign whatever points are required to make it come out that way.
I thought Joubert was the best, but what do I know. I thought he had more crispness and control than the others. Plus, I guess a bad quad is better than no quad at all?
My favorite performance by far was Kozuka's
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Yeah, but he didn't criticise the system, since he's been happy with it.
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His comments on jouberts relentless quad promotion.
You did?! (drops dead)
But I thought that was between Joubert and he. Chan praised the COP, in a sense.
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Maybe it was sarcasm? *wistfully*
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If you caught the U.S. coverage on Oxygen TV, Scott and Sandra were sceaming non-stop. Partrick Chan's skate was the greatest performance of all time, Evan Lysacek's was the second greatest performance of all time, and the judges are the biggest idiots of all time.
In real time, when Joubert flubbed the quad combo, Scott said (really!), "he has just given away the championship."
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More control when he was wobbling all over the place after his quad?
A bad quad is better than a good triple?
Who are you?
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are protocols out?
Oh please, tell that to Joubert who talked so much smack about quadless Buttle at last years worlds.
Who said anything about system. He made very personal, finger-pointing attack on another skater and former skaters. While at the same time insulting powerful people who pushes towards rewarding more technically challenging skating.
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Or perhaps the judges have simply lost their minds. Or they just have no ideas how to handle the PCS, the new judging system. Skaters get completely different scores for about the same performances. Before the competition it looked like this SP-wise:
Chan 88.90
Joubert 86.90
Kozuka 83.90
Lysacek 81.65
Oda 81.63
Verner 81.45
Chan was clean today, perhaps a bit less free, a bit tighter - lost about 6 points
Joubert lost about 3 points on the 4-3 - so they gave him perhaps a point more overall, but the result is actually quite consistent
Kozuka was clean today, very similar to GPF - but scored 4 points less, but he already got very low scores at 4CC, compared to GPF
Lysacek rather consistent judging, he got about a point more today
Oda - lost 5 points compared to NHK, he fell though - perhaps he lost about 1 point compared to NHK
Verner - this is rather weird, he had an excellent 4-3 compared to 3-3 at Europeans, where he got those 81.45 points. Meaning +6 points on the tech side, he lost 2 points on the Axel - I am still at +4 points. But he scored even less, so overall he lost 5 points.
So in the Top Seven, without Contesti, we have three guys who got scores consistent with their season's best: Joubert, Lysacek and Oda. Kozuka, Chan and Verner lost at least 4 points compared to their season's best.
What does Medusa learn from this? Maybe those ordinals were better and maybe she shouldn't get worked up about randomn scores, because apparently, they count for nothing in the end...
I agree, I would put Kozuka first. But have no problem with Joubert's miniscule lead.
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I think it's funny that over summer, with the code changes, quad would be worth more but if it wasn't perfect, expect some major deductions.
I think it's time that with this point-earning system, take cues from gymnastics and list out deduction values. Then we wouldn't have to play a guessing game before protocols come out.
I'm sorry, I don't believe in a BS like that. He called Joubert names, he trashed talked a bit. What does it have to do with the judges?
Lakernik tends to think Evan lips.
