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Mikhail Kolyada

Someone on youtube made a compilation of the different commentators reacting to Misha`s 4Lz :biggrin:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xtJLxkfZhAk

I`m so happy for him that he finally broke the 100 in the short program, the next step would be to break the 200 in the free program, which I believe he should be able to do with the content and quality he has.
 
I`m so happy for him that he finally broke the 100 in the short program, the next step would be to break the 200 in the free program, which I believe he should be able to do with the content and quality he has.

He has the content to get around 105+ in the SP and 205+ in the FS, but that would be the ideal world. Right now I would be happy with him getting to more than 90% of that. He already made considerable improvement from his CS outings, that were around the 240-50 mark to the 270s in the GPs. Let's see if he can take the next step in the coming competitions.
 
Congratulations to Mikhail on his Gold Medal win at COC! This was a great competition for him
and should give him confidence as the seasons progresses.
 
To be honest, I wasn't expecting Mikhail to have back to back great skates, nor did I really want him to at this point in the season. The technical content and demands of his programs are so great, significantly greater than in prior seasons, and he and his coaches wisely seem to be taking the patient and steady approach, not expecting perfection right away but working slowly toward making incremental improvements with each competition. It would not have boded well for him to have peak performances now. CoC was a huge step forward (yeah, his sp is already among my all time favorites), and he did have some good moments in the fs too. Despite the pops, he totally deserved to win overall. But it's not fun seeing the negative posts. I guess that means he's "arrived" so to speak, and people are starting to see him as a threat to their favorites? I just don't get the incessant whining that Mikhail's scores are due to the Russian federation holding him up, as opposed to his hard work and technical and skating qualities. (E.g., there's one particularly bitter and mean-spirited poster, hard to miss unfortunately, who begrudges every success Mikhail has -- oh he only won due to others' mistakes-- hello, isn't that often the case, even with proven champions like Yuzuru and Javier?? -- and who resorts to personal attacks in reaction to the judges' perceived inflated scores. He/she even belittled Mikhail's saying he was satisfied with his effort in the fs at CoR and suggested that he won't amount to much bc he doesn't have a fighter's mentality and doesn't want it badly enough. Come on, really???). I mean, how does that work exactly? Did the Russian fed hold a gun to the heads of the judges at both CoR and CoC and convince them to inflate his scores? Also, I get that some may not like his programs or skating style, but their personal biases often prevent them from seeing or appreciating what the judges see, like his superb skating skills, spinning, and jumping technique, which are among the best in the world. One last point to my vent (sorry :)) People rightly complain about reputation judging all the time, but Mikhail doesn't have a big enough reputation yet on the international scene for that to be a factor with him. No, the judges simply punish him when he misses (as they should) and give him credit where credit is due.

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To be honest, I wasn't expecting Mikhail to have back to back great skates, nor did I really want him to at this point in the season. The technical content and demands of his programs are so great, significantly greater than in prior seasons, and he and his coaches wisely seem to be taking the patient and steady approach, not expecting perfection right away but working slowly toward making incremental improvements with each competition. It would not have boded well for him to have peak performances now. CoC was a huge step forward (yeah, his sp is already among my all time favorites), and he did have some good moments in the fs too. Despite the pops, he totally deserved to win overall. But it's not fun seeing the negative posts. I guess that means he's "arrived" so to speak, and people are starting to see him as a threat to their favorites? I just don't get the incessant whining that Mikhail's scores are due to the Russian federation holding him up, as opposed to his hard work and technical and skating qualities. (E.g., there's one particularly bitter and mean-spirited poster, hard to miss unfortunately, who begrudges every success Mikhail has -- oh he only won due to others' mistakes-- hello, isn't that often the case, even with proven champions like Yuzuru and Javier?? -- and who resorts to personal attacks in reaction to the judges' perceived inflated scores. He/she even belittled Mikhail's saying he was satisfied with his effort in the fs at CoR and suggested that he won't amount to much bc he doesn't have a fighter's mentality and doesn't want it badly enough. Come on, really???). I mean, how does that work exactly? Did the Russian fed hold a gun to the heads of the judges at both CoR and CoC and convince them to inflate his scores? Also, I get that some may not like his programs or skating style, but their personal biases often prevent them from seeing or appreciating what the judges see, like his superb skating skills, spinning, and jumping technique, which are among the best in the world. One last point to my vent (sorry :)) People rightly complain about reputation judging all the time, but Mikhail doesn't have a big enough reputation yet on the international scene for that to be a factor with him. No, the judges simply punish him when he misses (as they should) and give him credit where credit is due.

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I first thought that Misha had truly arrived when Yuzuru's fans started to complain about him being overscored after CoR ;)

When Misha said that he was largely satisfied with his FS after CoR, he immediately got attacked because how could anyone be satisfied with that skate. In his most recent interview after CoC he spells out that it was because he knows his current limitations, not because he is delusional. He confirms that the last time he was truly satisfied with his skate was at 2016 Worlds. (That's a bloody long time ago. It must have been frustrating for him, always setting goals that are just out of reach. It amazes me that people genuinely believe that he somehow lacks self-criticism or is prepared to settle. He nearly ate himself from inside out after last Euros and he got a bronze medal there.)

As to certain fans of other Russian skaters who seem to think Misha is unjustly standing in the way of their success - I am sorry to be blunt, but Misha has set several national SP, FS, and overall score records in a row, a few of them this season (both total and just TES for those who like to complain about inflated PCS). Nobody else has managed to beat even his older records, let alone the most recent ones. Anyone who wants to compare PBs, SBs, average competition scores etc. can just open the appropriate tables, they are very illustrative. Misha is pretty much only competing with himself at this point. Yes, others have potential, but let them at least begin realising it properly and then we can talk about Misha not deservedly occupying the position of Russia's number one. (There are of course also perfectly reasonable fans of other Russian skaters who manage to refrain from bashing anyone. I also don't have anything against the skaters themselves, they are not responsible for every fan of theirs).
 
As to certain fans of other Russian skaters who seem to think Misha is unjustly standing in the way of their success - I am sorry to be blunt, but Misha has set several national SP, FS, and overall score records in a row, a few of them this season (both total and just TES for those who like to complain about inflated PCS). Nobody else has managed to beat even his older records, let alone the most recent ones. Anyone who wants to compare PBs, SBs, average competition scores etc. can just open the appropriate tables, they are very illustrative. Misha is pretty much only competing with himself at this point. Yes, others have potential, but let them at least begin realising it properly and then we can talk about Misha not deservedly occupying the position of Russia's number one. (There are of course also perfectly reasonable fans of other Russian skaters who manage to refrain from bashing anyone. I also don't have anything against the skaters themselves, they are not responsible for every fan of theirs).

I agree with this from top to bottom. Some people really want to tarnish his accomplishments - because that's what they are, all his skates, placements, records and scores - just because their own faves were surpassed by Misha, or are in the danger of that. And some of them actively want him to fail, even when he's a hard-worker, down to earth guy and absolutely respectful towards all skaters - and that's only based on his potential, because Misha still has a long way to go. However, there's no skirting around the fact that he is only competing with himself in Russia, and it's not even a matter of his BV, we all know he's not the guy trying the most quads, but the overall quality of skating he's presenting now, this season, is miles ahead of any other skater in Russia. And that's a fact - proven by the judges in and out of Russia.

It's a fact that he's pushing the content of his programs as far a he can right now, and that he's training to compete them in the best way he can. He's not falling down the ice because he wants to, but he's not giving up on his programs either. Did any of these people criticizing his PCS actually watch him skate? Because in both GPs he got to the end of the programs without seeming like he was dying to sit on the ice, and that's more than we can say about a lot of the men skating right now. How some people think the judges don't see that is beyond me.

He has a lot to improve in his skating, yes, but he has a lot of qualities right now, and if the judges see fit to reward him for it, all the more power to Misha.

I'd say don't bother with the haters, because Misha winning or not they will talk. Let's celebrate him as a skater and a person. Let's cheer for him!
 
IMO, it was always obvious that once Misha gets his quads under control, he would be a contender for the top. I`m surprised that people are surprised that he is actually competitive with skaters like Jin, Chen, Fernandez etc. :scratch2:

Anyway, I watched the Men`s FS on German Eurosport and they loved Misha :biggrin: Hendryk Schamberger, who is a former German ice dancer, went as far as saying that Misha is now the favorite to win the European Championship.
 
IMO, it was always obvious that once Misha gets his quads under control, he would be a contender for the top. I`m surprised that people are surprised that he is actually competitive with skaters like Jin, Chen, Fernandez etc. :scratch2:

Anyway, I watched the Men`s FS on German Eurosport and they loved Misha :biggrin: Hendryk Schamberger, who is a former German ice dancer, went as far as saying that Misha is now the favorite to win the European Championship.

He has a chance to win it, for sure. But it's all about him. If he delivers, It'll be hard to stop him.
 
Yeah, I guess some people just don't like Misha and don't want him to be the threat for their favourites and so they are surprised with his TES and PCS. But I think that Misha deserves his scores with the overall quality of his skating. Besided two pops and a fallen quad lutz all jumps in Misha's fs in CoC were really beautiful, so were his spins and step sequences and the program itself.
 
I agree with this from top to bottom. Some people really want to tarnish his accomplishments - because that's what they are, all his skates, placements, records and scores - just because their own faves were surpassed by Misha, or are in the danger of that. And some of them actively want him to fail, even when he's a hard-worker, down to earth guy and absolutely respectful towards all skaters - and that's only based on his potential, because Misha still has a long way to go. However, there's no skirting around the fact that he is only competing with himself in Russia, and it's not even a matter of his BV, we all know he's not the guy trying the most quads, but the overall quality of skating he's presenting now, this season, is miles ahead of any other skater in Russia. And that's a fact - proven by the judges in and out of Russia.

It's a fact that he's pushing the content of his programs as far a he can right now, and that he's training to compete them in the best way he can. He's not falling down the ice because he wants to, but he's not giving up on his programs either. Did any of these people criticizing his PCS actually watch him skate? Because in both GPs he got to the end of the programs without seeming like he was dying to sit on the ice, and that's more than we can say about a lot of the men skating right now. How some people think the judges don't see that is beyond me.

He has a lot to improve in his skating, yes, but he has a lot of qualities right now, and if the judges see fit to reward him for it, all the more power to Misha.

I'd say don't bother with the haters, because Misha winning or not they will talk. Let's celebrate him as a skater and a person. Let's cheer for him!
I don't think anyone has tried more quads than Misha in Russia this season. If you count Kvitelashvili, he has gone for 5, but I can't think of someone actually attempting 6+ :scratch3: Aliev's coach talked about it but it never materialised due to his injury and such.
 
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