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Mikhail Kolyada

I don't even want to imagine what would happen if he does well in individuals after a bad outing in the team event and the kind of accusations that he'll have to face.

Overall, I think the Olympics, especially the team event, are a whole new level of pressure and Misha wasn't ready for its effect on him.

Would he face some kind of backlash if he medaled in the individual competition? If anything I feel like it'd make up for the lost gold - but let's be realist, Z/E gave away points and so did B/S, but Misha did lose a chance to make things easier on himself.

On another note, it makes me wonder why even after Euros they still sent Misha to do both programs, when the Dmitri that competed at Euros would be enough to place well in both segments.
 
Would he face some kind of backlash if he medaled in the individual competition? If anything I feel like it'd make up for the lost gold - but let's be realist, Z/E gave away points and so did B/S, but Misha did lose a chance to make things easier on himself.

On another note, it makes me wonder why even after Euros they still sent Misha to do both programs, when the Dmitri that competed at Euros would be enough to place well in both segments.
If he is viewed as having cost the team a gold medal, which is already happening now, I don't think even an individual medal would make up for it, he'd be accused of deliberately letting the team down and saving his strength for the individual event or somesuch. Considering the attacks he's come under already (there are crazies on his Instagram threatening him and his family and wishing for them to get cancer, the main of whom is apparently a journalist), and even on the more sane front the barrage of criticism and accusations in the press, I won't be surprised at anything. I am hoping he is staying the hell away from TV and Internet and continues to do so as much as possible.

Misha got stuck with both programs because they chose to substitute ladies and pairs, since they wanted for them to save their strength for the individual event as they are medal prospects. That was something that was planned from the beginning and they didn't want to change it.
 
Well, I think Misha got himself out of that bad mental place he was in, which is the main thing. Great to see the team supporting him and Nina Mozer by the boards, she was quite supportive of him in her interview. Good enough for now, but preferably should be improved upon before the individual event - like fixing those 4Ts and not losing combos. Replacing 4S with 4T doesn't really work if you screw up the latter.
 
I think the good thing that he kind of did all the jumps - almos all the jumps, where's the quad combo, Misha? But a vast improvement from the SP. Maybe the Team Event was good to get him going for the Mens competitions, who knows. Let's wait and see.
 
If he is viewed as having cost the team a gold medal, which is already happening now, I don't think even an individual medal would make up for it, he'd be accused of deliberately letting the team down and saving his strength for the individual event or somesuch. Considering the attacks he's come under already (there are crazies on his Instagram threatening him and his family and wishing for them to get cancer, the main of whom is apparently a journalist), and even on the more sane front the barrage of criticism and accusations in the press, I won't be surprised at anything. I am hoping he is staying the hell away from TV and Internet and continues to do so as much as possible.

Misha got stuck with both programs because they chose to substitute ladies and pairs, since they wanted for them to save their strength for the individual event as they are medal prospects. That was something that was planned from the beginning and they didn't want to change it.

What the Heck?! That's awful! I hope he and his family never see those terrible comments!

The Russian press don't pull any punches that's for sure...make one mistake and they come after you. :(

And that's interesting about the substitution thing, I didn't know about that rule! Shame for Misha, but he and OAR got the silver and he looked very happy too! :biggrin:
 
I don't even want to imagine what would happen if he does well in individuals after a bad outing in the team event and the kind of accusations that he'll have to face.

Overall, I think the Olympics, especially the team event, are a whole new level of pressure and Misha wasn't ready for its effect on him.

That and the combination of other factors: unusually early start, not being able to go back to the village after the morning practice (how the guys were supposed to have breakfast & have a shower after practice?!) I think being stuck for hours there the guys just got burned out mentally on the top of a lack of sleep and competition nerves. But the main thing was that Mika's confidence (not very strong to start with) has been destroyed for last 2 seasons by the pressure of expectations + tech content which he was unable to do 100% even in practice let alone under the stress of competition. So what happened in the SP here was kinda bound to happen. One thing to look at it - he got the worst nerves out of his system -hopefully! Today was very significant - he was no less nervous than on Friday, the skate didn't start well but he managed to turn it around - :clap:
I could not sleep but was afraid to watch only after I read your messages here at 5am and knew he did well I got up and watched - oh that smile - thank God!

Misha did have a psychologist. I don't know what the situation is right now, but obviously he wouldn't have been able to bring his own psychologist with him to Japan/Korea. But the team should have a psychologist there, surely? Honestly don't know what the hell is going on there, in terms of psychological support the situation seems to be very far from ideal.

Kudos to Nina Mozer I am not sure how things would pan out if she wasn't there...

If he is viewed as having cost the team a gold medal, which is already happening now, I don't think even an individual medal would make up for it, he'd be accused of deliberately letting the team down and saving his strength for the individual event or somesuch. Considering the attacks he's come under already (there are crazies on his Instagram threatening him and his family and wishing for them to get cancer, the main of whom is apparently a journalist), and even on the more sane front the barrage of criticism and accusations in the press, I won't be surprised at anything. I am hoping he is staying the hell away from TV and Internet and continues to do so as much as possible.

Misha got stuck with both programs because they chose to substitute ladies and pairs, since they wanted for them to save their strength for the individual event as they are medal prospects. That was something that was planned from the beginning and they didn't want to change it.

I am shocked at the level of hostility from the media and fans. The only people who could rightly feel a bit 'robbed' are his teammates and they have been very nice & supportive because they know it is sport and it could have happened to any of them. People react like Mika stole their last belongings from them and not a chance (not certainty) of a team gold medal (I personally convinced that Canada would have won anyway and good for them!). Nathan possibly cost USA a silver but nobody throws a vitriol at him here. I just can't...
 
That and the combination of other factors: unusually early start, not being able to go back to the village after the morning practice (how the guys were supposed to have breakfast & have a shower after practice?!) I think being stuck for hours there the guys just got burned out mentally on the top of a lack of sleep and competition nerves. But the main thing was that Mika's confidence (not very strong to start with) has been destroyed for last 2 seasons by the pressure of expectations + tech content which he was unable to do 100% even in practice let alone under the stress of competition. So what happened in the SP here was kinda bound to happen. One thing to look at it - he got the worst nerves out of his system -hopefully! Today was very significant - he was no less nervous than on Friday, the skate didn't start well but he managed to turn it around - :clap:
I could not sleep but was afraid to watch only after I read your messages here at 5am and knew he did well I got up and watched - oh that smile - thank God!
In the FS there is time to turn the skate around. In the SP it is more difficult. But he could do the SP in practice. That seemed to be virtually 100% nerves. He was visibly shaking when he went out there. At this point he can do the 4Lz in practices, he can do it in warmups, what is the stumbling block in competitive programs? Also in the practice before the FS he wisely saved his strength rather than going all out, and I think that may have helped. But it's rather suggestive of him being somewhat tired at this point in the season. And it's not like it could have been easily avoided, since the only competition that he may have chosen not to attend was one of the Challengers at the beginning. If only he could have missed Euros. Or someone else could have skated the SP here. Or if he'd had an easier layout in the SP.

Also, if the jump after the 4Lz in the FS is going to be screwed up anyway, there may be some point in bringing back the 4S. No danger of a REP, the second 3Lz can be put back and the combos would be made easier. Or put a 2A there or 3Lz or somesuch that he can jump in his sleep, but obviously that is unlikely to be workable right now. But even apart from that he needs to get his 4T back together, that jump was stable and reliable before.

Kudos to Nina Mozer I am not sure how things would pan out if she wasn't there...
Yes, definitely, I think she helped. A coach with more experience of the Olympics being there was a very good idea and I wish it had happened before the SP too.

I am shocked at the level of hostility from the media and fans. The only people who could rightly feel a bit 'robbed' are his teammates and they have been very nice & supportive because they know it is sport and it could have happened to any of them. People react like Mika stole their last belongings from them and not a chance (not certainty) of a team gold medal (I personally convinced that Canada would have won anyway and good for them!). Nathan possibly cost USA a silver but nobody throws a vitriol at him here. I just can't...
As someone said, the Americans were not expecting gold. If they had been, Nathan might have been treated more harshly (but it's not like he chose to skate badly because the team event wasn't as important! And neither did Misha, although some people seem to honestly believe something like that). It was Russia and Canada for whom the team event was a big deal. There are still fans of Zhenya and Alina that are mad that both of them didn't get to be Olympic champions. But it wasn't like it was ever guaranteed or anything. Canada simply had a more experienced team so they had an advantage there, especially with Stolbova and Klimov out of the equation.

I think the good thing that he kind of did all the jumps - almost all the jumps, where's the quad combo, Misha? But a vast improvement from the SP. Maybe the Team Event was good to get him going for the Mens competitions, who knows. Let's wait and see.
I think he may be less nervous because at least he is only skating for himself. Misha is prone to being hyperresponsible and that does not help (not my opinion but that of those who know him). His problem isn't that he doesn't care about the team, it's that he cares too much, dammit! Some people can't get it through their heads. I hope his unsuccessful skate in the team event doesn't weigh too heavily on him and he doesn't get stuck in that "I let everyone down" tearing his hair out place (some people think he should as if that had ever helped anyone). That psychologist that helped him after last Euros, or another one, will probably be a good idea. He really needs to rediscover his carefree streak and start enjoying skating again. Otherwise it may come to him simply deciding it isn't worth it and retiring without realising even half of his potential.

ЕТА: Apparently, Zhenya (unlike some of her fans) was one of the main supporters of Misha after his unsuccessful SP and he seems grateful to her for her help.
 
Congrats to Misha for winning his first (and hopefully not his last :biggrin: Olympic medal) :hap93:

I read on FSU that the other team members gave him a lot of support after his Short Program. Hopefully, he can now have a great individual event. :)
 
Congrats to Misha for winning his first (and hopefully not his last :biggrin: Olympic medal) :hap93:

I read on FSU that the other team members gave him a lot of support after his Short Program. Hopefully, he can now have a great individual event. :)
See, it's the other skaters who had the most reason to be mad at him after his SP, but they weren't the ones who beat him down.
 
See, it's the other skaters who had the most reason to be mad at him after his SP, but they weren't the ones who beat him down.

I think there's a certain amount of stupidity in hating him because he had a problem in the SP. But he did fuel the haters, which their only work is to celebrate when he does something wrong - even if they try to make it seem like it's nothing personal. There's a number of them in GS.

But I'm still wondering what might have happened with Dmitri? They had to choose a man that could skate both, and they obviously didn't send Dmitri, which was the one that competed much better in the last competition. I still wonder why's that. But it's not like we can do anything about that now. Misha has his Olympic medal, and hopefully he can manage to get good results this week, it could be a huge milestone for his career, and maybe bring back some of the confidence he's lost.
 
I think there's a certain amount of stupidity in hating him because he had a problem in the SP. But he did fuel the haters, which their only work is to celebrate when he does something wrong - even if they try to make it seem like it's nothing personal. There's a number of them in GS.

But I'm still wondering what might have happened with Dmitri? They had to choose a man that could skate both, and they obviously didn't send Dmitri, which was the one that competed much better in the last competition. I still wonder why's that. But it's not like we can do anything about that now. Misha has his Olympic medal, and hopefully he can manage to get good results this week, it could be a huge milestone for his career, and maybe bring back some of the confidence he's lost.
Because overall Misha had shown better results this season. Which is why I've been saying there was zero reason to send him to Euros at all, it didn't change anything. And Dima would have been unlikely to pull off four Olympic programs for reasons of stamina. It took all he had to skate that FS at Euros. Making him skate the SP could have been a good idea, but they were dead set on not substituting men as you have said. Or they could have simply had Misha skate Dima's content in the SP which could have helped, but that didn't happen for whatever reason.
 
Because overall Misha had shown better results this season. Which is why I've been saying there was zero reason to send him to Euros at all, it didn't change anything. And Dima would have been unlikely to pull off four Olympic programs for reasons of stamina. It took all he had to skate that FS at Euros. Making him skate the SP could have been a good idea, but they were dead set on not substituting men as you have said. Or they could have simply had Misha skate Dima's content in the SP which could have helped, but that didn't happen for whatever reason.

Sergei would have been a perfect choice for the Team competition, in my opinion.
 
Sergei would have been a perfect choice for the Team competition, in my opinion.
Yes, experience would have helped, I think. However, it would have required sending him to the Olympics at all - you can't just use a skater in the team event. And Voronov isn't even training properly now as I understand because of what is going on with the coaching situation.

Misha has been running away at the sight of journalists but did give a short comment published by r-sport. He hasn't realised that he got a silver medal yet, he needs more time. Psychologically Olympics are different from all other international competitions. But the main thing is to detach from this and do your job well. The team has supported him and he is very grateful. He is also thankful for the support of the fans.

https://rsport.ria.ru/winter2018_figure/20180212/1132441859.html

His VK group has asked everyone to send cards to them with words of support that will be given to Misha after he comes back from the Olympics.
 
Well, I think Misha got himself out of that bad mental place he was in, which is the main thing. Great to see the team supporting him and Nina Mozer by the boards, she was quite supportive of him in her interview. Good enough for now, but preferably should be improved upon before the individual event - like fixing those 4Ts and not losing combos. Replacing 4S with 4T doesn't really work if you screw up the latter.

If anyone can post a link to Mozer’s interview (for me to read in Google translate, of course:)), I would be grateful. Not knowing Russian, I have no idea how to search for articles in Russian media!
 
If anyone can post a link to Mozer’s interview (for me to read in Google translate, of course:)), I would be grateful. Not knowing Russian, I have no idea how to search for articles in Russian media!
Here is a link to what she said post-SP. She says it's unacceptable to treat Kolyada like that as he didn't come to the Olympics to fall, make mistakes and lose. He wanted to do his best, but he is young and inexperienced, the whole team is. He probably should have skated an easier SP layout, but he wanted to do the maximum and took a risk.

https://rsport.ria.ru/winter2018_figure/20180211/1132350920.html

There is also a video interview after the end of the team event where she repeats something similar:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MhLSA5_Kb8g

She thinks that 10 a.m. is an ungodly time particularly for the men's event with their quads and that it's had and will have a detrimental effect on the quality of the competition. So we are in for a lot more splats.
 
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