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Mikhail Kolyada

I think that saving jumps puts additional strain on muscles. Better fall than injure in a wonky saved jump. To fall and not injure is the thing that the gymnasts for example learn at the beginning of their career, i suppose is similar for skaters...

Thats a very interesting point - I haven't thought of, but then again one can get injured in a fall (e.g Samohin) Still Mika is the one who knows best. One is for sure when he lands them his jumps are more than just tech elements it is a thing of beauty!
 
Thats a very interesting point - I haven't thought of, but then again one can get injured in a fall (e.g Samohin) Still Mika is the one who knows best. One is for sure when he lands them his jumps are more than just tech elements it is a thing of beauty!

So true! :love: Which is why he's one of my favourites :)
 
I think that saving jumps puts additional strain on muscles. Better fall than injure in a wonky saved jump. To fall and not injure is the thing that the gymnasts for example learn at the beginning of their career, i suppose is similar for skaters...

But you can fall & injure yourself too - look at Hanyu or injure yourself due to repetitive, bad falls (Pogorilaya). I don't think there's any rule on that.
 
But you can fall & injure yourself too - look at Hanyu or injure yourself due to repetitive, bad falls (Pogorilaya). I don't think there's any rule on that.
I think the kind of jumps Misha has are harder to save. It's similar to how he can't land underrotated jumps - never had to learn with the room he has to rotate and nobody thought he would have to master a quad lutz in the future. His jumps also tend to have delayed rotation and for doing a bunch of quads that's not a good thing, but nobody thought he would have to learn a bunch of quads one day. Also, Mishin had a hand in his jump technique and Mishin is big on the quality of jumps which is sadly not what is valued today.
 
But you can fall & injure yourself too - look at Hanyu or injure yourself due to repetitive, bad falls (Pogorilaya). I don't think there's any rule on that.

In case of Pogo I think nobody really taught her how to fall. Mika's quads are really high and powerful (one of the reasons he has problems with landing them) but he know how to fall. Also during jump saving your knees and BACK are affected the most and as we know Mikhail's back is prone to injuries
 
Congrats to Misha on medalling at his first GPF! To think, he could have won it all with one less fall... Hopefully he has better lucky at Euros :agree:.

:agree:Hi Danibellerika, thanks for joining the Mikhail fans here!:) Sometimes it seems we're a little outnumbered. I sat next to you for men's fs in Boston and then ran into you the next morning at Logan waiting for our same flight home. We commiserated over Yuzuru and Shoma and also discussed our mutual lack of fandom for a particular skater, lol. I remember your forum name because it's so pretty, and have seen some of your posts in other threads. So, I'm enviously aware that you're going to get to see the OG figure skating competition live in Pyeongchang, lucky you! Sorry to everyone else for the :otopic: (though I think that emoji is so cute and I finally got to use it :laugh:).

Congratulations to Mikhail for medalling!:clap: I thought he showed a lot of perseverance in going for everything (barring the unfortunate slip on the loop) and that in itself is an improvement over prior competitions. And this time he didn't mess up his spin in the sp.;) Keeping my fingers crossed that he will remain healthy and peak at the OG!
 
But you can fall & injure yourself too - look at Hanyu or injure yourself due to repetitive, bad falls (Pogorilaya). I don't think there's any rule on that.

Yes, naturally that you can injure yourself also in a fall, but those falls where one injure himself cannot be saved anyway, so there is not the saving without injury vs fall with injury, the saving does nothing against an injury IMO. And yes, i have never seen someone falling so bad like Pogorilaya does (i really fear her landings TBH). That is way one should learn how to fall, it is very important. For example, Kovtun had many years such a bad technique in his jumps that i was sure that someday he will have health problems because of the wonky landings. Mikhail has really beautiful technique, even when he falls, so he has less danger. But the strain to save can be very bad for muscle and joints, one should know what his body can pull off without using too much power needed for the next jumps....
 
:agree:Hi Danibellerika, thanks for joining the Mikhail fans here!:) Sometimes it seems we're a little outnumbered. I sat next to you for men's fs in Boston and then ran into you the next morning at Logan waiting for our same flight home. We commiserated over Yuzuru and Shoma and also discussed our mutual lack of fandom for a particular skater, lol. I remember your forum name because it's so pretty, and have seen some of your posts in other threads. So, I'm enviously aware that you're going to get to see the OG figure skating competition live in Pyeongchang, lucky you! Sorry to everyone else for the :otopic: (though I think that emoji is so cute and I finally got to use it :laugh:).

Congratulations to Mikhail for medalling!:clap: I thought he showed a lot of perseverance in going for everything (barring the unfortunate slip on the loop) and that in itself is an improvement over prior competitions. And this time he didn't mess up his spin in the sp.;) Keeping my fingers crossed that he will remain healthy and peak at the OG!

Hi Helen! I'm glad to hear from you! I think back to that convo sometimes :laugh::laugh::laugh: I can tell you right now nothing has changed since then. Thankfully Helsinki righted many of the wrongs with Boston for me. Results wise that trip was worth the travel more so than Boston, but at least I got to meet old friends and make new friends in Boston including you! The only thing that would have made Helsinki better would have been if Misha could have made the podium like I thought he deserved to in 2016. Olympics is going to be quite the nail biter but I'm hoping to enjoy myself. It's been more work and planning than I expected, but it will be here before we know it. And I think with Misha's improvements he will help Team OAR defend its gold.
 
It was great meeting you in Boston, Danibellerika, and hopefully we'll be able to meet up again at future competitions.:) Misha was definitely a highlight for me at that competition and I would have loved for him to podium there too! I hope you bring good luck to all your favorite skaters at the OG, including Yuzuru, Shoma, and Misha.:biggrin: I look forward to your onsite reports!!!

ETA: I'm glad Helsinki turned out better for you than Boston (except for Misha :(), and I'm very happy for you (and envious ;)) that you get to see these wonderful skaters in person for a third time!
 
On another good note, Misha broke 280 with a new PB. He's had one FS PB and one SP PB this season, now he's finally brought together two not-crappy programs and voila. Considering how much room for improvement there is it's encouraging.

In this interview (I don't think it was posted before?):
http://www.fsrussia.ru/news/3438-mikhail-kolyada-bronzovyj-prizer-finala-gran-pri-v-nagoe.html
Mika says that he on the whole is satisfied with his performances at GPF, that he had his own goals for his competition and he achieved it. Then he also says that it was the first time he rotated all three quads in the program which is a bit odd as he did it also at CoR didn't he? But it made me realise that it was indeed the first competition when he rotated all five quads and all three triple axels!!! Thats is surely something!
 
it made me realise that it was indeed the first competition when he rotated all five quads and all three triple axels!!! Thats is surely something!

I think this is an important improvement, for sure. We know Misha can't underrotate anything, but he has a problem with pops, so indeed, it's good that he's going all out with his big guns - though, the small things still are giving him some headaches. But I said before, I'm happy he didn't land that loop. Let better things come in the future, and better skates.
 
I think this is an important improvement, for sure. We know Misha can't underrotate anything, but he has a problem with pops, so indeed, it's good that he's going all out with his big guns - though, the small things still are giving him some headaches. But I said before, I'm happy he didn't land that loop. Let better things come in the future, and better skates.

It was a wise & politically correct decision indeed haha
 
I can't believe that it's just less then one week before the Russian national championship already! Tonight I decided to look at the performances of Mikhail in this tournament for recent years. And I would like to share some highlights from the past: the first of the 2012-2013 season. It was in Sochi, and it was like in the kingdom of Evgeni Plushenko, The Tsar. There were a lot of posters with Evgeni, commentators mostly talked about Evgeni, crowd pationatly waited for Evgeni. You can see many hints of Evgeni in other skaters: someone had costume, other had hairstyle like Evgeni, or their music or some choreography would remind you about Evgeni. However, there were a lot of young talents, who performed there for the first time, like Aleksandr Samarin, Adian Pitkeev, Aleksandr Petrov, Andrei Lazukin who were 13-15 - and so on, and the one of the last was 17 y.o. Mikhail Kolyada. He didn't make big mistakes in his short, many elements were a bit inaccurate, but still he brought his playful, groovy, happy attitude, and made people smile a bit more. Valentina didn't forgot to care that he would cover his shoulders with jacket in K&C. The commentator, resuming opinions of the specialists of those day said "Everybody liked Kolyada."
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QarO_so4LPU

However, he didn't have any Quad, and fell from both attempts of 3A in the Free.

Next year didn't bring him a quad too. He tried it, but after changing blades it was hard for him to feel it again. He turned 18, and was staying in juniors, but his results didn't make better, 15 years old guys became overcome him. He fighted with Quads, 3A, boots, blades and couldn't overcome them. Maybe it was a right time to change a coach for more experienced but Mikhail refused to do it. The Russian Nationals performance was dissapointing. He fell from 3A in the Short, the begining of the Free was Ok, but suddenly something wrong happend with his boot - commentators said, he lost a hook on his boots. Oh, that gaze at the 4.11 is just heartbreaking...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eb8DRwppYS0

I think choreographes try to bring out the gaze like that from their studens to move people feelings. He is forced to withraw from the competition.

And it wasn't better the next year. During the summer he broke his ankle at practice, and healed it more then a half of the year. He skiped all the main competitions including the Russian Nats.

It could be the end of the very sad story, but Mikhail managed to make it into the begining of the very good one. He is still loyal to his team, he recoveres from the injury, he works, he succeeds, he delivers, he finnaly gets Quad Toe! And the first competition, where he landed it in both programmes was Russian Nats. Tarasova said during translation that she thinks she will never forget this boy "he is so nice, he enjoys so much with perfomances, he has such a good connection with his coach, and with the music, and he is like a kind of "boyish-boy", with a very nice temper".
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Od7vmwYXxe8

He takes silver medal hear, and becames a skater, who takes part in the every big competitions.

The next year is very busy for him. He takes part in a lot of competitions. He performs great at Worlds and his only rival in Russia is Maksim Kovtun, who has two quad jumps. Misha has just 4T. He tries 4S, but he pops it often in competitions. He tries 4Lz. It is very hard to land it, but he can fully rotate it. At the Russian Nationals 2017 he is a leader after the short. Kovtun had a bad SP, but then made a good FP, and takes the lead. Then young Samarin skates clean his routine and takes the first spot. The last one is Mikhail. He tries the 4Lz, rotate it, but no way to land it. Then 4T with step-out. Then clean 3A-3T and 3Lz-2T. Then... commercial of the main sponsor started to sound over the music! Then ads is over, he continues. 3A, 3S+2A, 3Lo, a bit tight on 2A and it becames clear that he make a dream of Valentina come true - she becomes a coach of the Russian National Champion! Like a young head of the big family he hugs his crying coaches, during the anouncement... that was a moment they tried to reach for so many years...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RehSMFG9yCE


So, less then one week before the short programm of Russian Nationals. Mikhail had a very succesful Grand Prix, with winning the bronze and gold medals, making the final, and he took the bronze there. His 4Lz is still unstable, though, there were a couple of very good attempts. He didn't land a clean 4S so far. The Championship now held in his native Saint-Petersburg. Wish him best luck this time!
 
That was very nice to see! I think sometimes we forget how much Mikhail actually improved, and it's just when we see his programs side by side that we can see it. He has many great things to come in his future.
:yahoo:

Yes even we, the fans, not fully appreciate sometimes how difficult it was to break through for Mika, what a journey! Thank you for your thoughtful post Buton!
Looking forward to next week - a bit nervous though. I know Mika is numero uno and should remain so but ice is slippery and the home pressure sometimes plays havoc... Anyone knows is it his 'home' rink the Russian Nats are at?

Edit: by the way Mika came in first in Challenger Series this season - is there a prize money for the winner I hope so!
 
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