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SP is completely Lambiel's - even song choice/edit. He also choreographed the step sequence in the FS.
Mikhail Kolyada
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SP is completely Lambiel's - even song choice/edit. He also choreographed the step sequence in the FS.
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Thank you!
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Exactly what I thought. Needs a bit more, but it can work well for him. It suits him much more than the Elvis did imo. I like the Carmen better than the SP.
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The SP starts also to grow on me, but i don't know if will become a favorite. I find the music grating at the moment. However, the program still miss something special. Let's hope that is just the beginning of the season, but he has not Lambiel near to adjust the program. Is it possible, that Mika will meet Lambiel also during the season for fine tuning or that was and the program will stay like this? He should put a bit more pathos (soul) into it.
I still don't see Carmen as Latino, perhaps because i cannot think of classical music as Latino. His movements were however stylized Toreador moves, i like this, not over the top with them, not cheesy as it could have been. Naturally a toreador poses a lot, so his program will not be fluidly and fluid arm movements as some on this forum thinks that is the epitome of figure skating. Flamenco and spanish dances are also a lot about posing and chopped movement.
I still don't see Carmen as Latino, perhaps because i cannot think of classical music as Latino. His movements were however stylized Toreador moves, i like this, not over the top with them, not cheesy as it could have been. Naturally a toreador poses a lot, so his program will not be fluidly and fluid arm movements as some on this forum thinks that is the epitome of figure skating. Flamenco and spanish dances are also a lot about posing and chopped movement.
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I think the main aspect is that both programs made people go "Wow, his SS", which is really what any program of Misha's needs to highlight. His programs do not have to disguise anything, they simply need to show what he has in the best light.
And all that said, a program where the audience can't help but clap along will likely be a good thing for Misha because he will get that energy charge from the audience which gives him an extra push. However, it's a program that will not be very forgiving of mistakes, especially falls where he'd have to catch up with the music. But executed well it can raise audiences to their feet.
"His movements are too fluid for rock'n'roll" was one of my first comments on Misha's Elvis last season, and they remained so throughout. Sharp movements are actually harder for him to execute, I believe, and you can see in Carmen when his mind wanders his arms get too soft again. The arm choreo in both programs still needs some cleaning up, but last season they worked on that during the season and there was significant improvement.
And all that said, a program where the audience can't help but clap along will likely be a good thing for Misha because he will get that energy charge from the audience which gives him an extra push. However, it's a program that will not be very forgiving of mistakes, especially falls where he'd have to catch up with the music. But executed well it can raise audiences to their feet.
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Early in the season + new cramped layout. All the guys looked exhausted at the end.
Another good quality video of the LP:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Rd3FfvlloA
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New interview by Vaitsehovskaya:
https://rsport.ria.ru/figure_skating/20180909/1141520478.html
Yes his SS are dazzling! every season he manages to improve drastically during the off season - he is now undoubtedly on Patrick's level :luv17:
I first read some conflicting reports on both SP & LP and was seriously worried. After watching the videos I feel relieved and excited for the coming season. Okay, I don't like the Muse but then again I don't like with a few exceptions all pop music (which I regard as a noise and one of these evils of modern life that has to be endured somehow
) But I like that the SP is more dramatic and energetic than I imagined per the reports - I like that it showcases his speed, power & SS. I actually think the costume is quite good - the belt is questionable but gives it some futuristic feel?
Now Carmen - I still hate the music (I know I should love by definition of it being a classical piece - but here it is I don't!) but the main thing is that Mika clearly is basking in both its sound and the audience response to it - and what's more anyone can wish for? He confirmed my 'theory' though in the interview - he wanted to skate to Carmen since he was 10! Yes it is a disease like a chicken pox one has to catch and get done with as early as possible
The costume I first did't like at all but in action it actually look better than at the close look, I only wish the red was of different shade - deep red wine? It looks more orange than red or I am imagining it?
All in all a sigh of relief!
https://rsport.ria.ru/figure_skating/20180909/1141520478.html
Yes his SS are dazzling! every season he manages to improve drastically during the off season - he is now undoubtedly on Patrick's level :luv17:
I first read some conflicting reports on both SP & LP and was seriously worried. After watching the videos I feel relieved and excited for the coming season. Okay, I don't like the Muse but then again I don't like with a few exceptions all pop music (which I regard as a noise and one of these evils of modern life that has to be endured somehow
) But I like that the SP is more dramatic and energetic than I imagined per the reports - I like that it showcases his speed, power & SS. I actually think the costume is quite good - the belt is questionable but gives it some futuristic feel? Now Carmen - I still hate the music (I know I should love by definition of it being a classical piece - but here it is I don't!) but the main thing is that Mika clearly is basking in both its sound and the audience response to it - and what's more anyone can wish for? He confirmed my 'theory' though in the interview - he wanted to skate to Carmen since he was 10! Yes it is a disease like a chicken pox one has to catch and get done with as early as possible
The costume I first did't like at all but in action it actually look better than at the close look, I only wish the red was of different shade - deep red wine? It looks more orange than red or I am imagining it?
All in all a sigh of relief!
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There is also this short snippet.New interview by Vaitsehovskaya:
https://rsport.ria.ru/figure_skating/20180909/1141520478.html
Yes his SS are dazzling! every season he manages to improve drastically during the off season - he is now undoubtedly on Patrick's level :luv17:
I first read some conflicting reports on both SP & LP and was seriously worried. After watching the videos I feel relieved and excited for the coming season. Okay, I don't like the Muse but then again I don't like with a few exceptions all pop music (which I regard as a noise and one of these evils of modern life that has to be endured somehow
Now Carmen - I still hate the music (I know I should love by definition of it being a classical piece - but here it is I don't!) but the main thing is that Mika clearly is basking in both its sound and the audience response to it - and what's more anyone can wish for? He confirmed my 'theory' though in the interview - he wanted to skate to Carmen since he was 10! Yes it is a disease like a chicken pox one has to catch and get done with as early as possible
The costume I first did't like at all but in action it actually look better than at the close look, I only wish the red was of different shade - deep red wine? It looks more orange than red or I am imagining it?
All in all a sigh of relief!
https://www.sport-express.ru/figure...al-li-on-psihologicheski-ustoychivee-1455066/
The overall message is that Misha's first priority is to show the program in the best light, get comfortable and receive high scores for it, and then add the 4Lz. He is not going to skate the LP with just one quad in it all season as some people seem to seriously believe. He was red in the face even after this layout in the Open Test Skates which probably had a lot to do with the jump choices. Lots of form still to be gained.
Also, it was Raf who invited Misha to come train with him in the summer, not the other way around as everyone assumed.
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There are also some technical details on how Raf helped him with 4lz - I wonder how it is going now in practice but his 3lz looks even higher and more effortless than ever!
From what Mika tells about his time in California he could do with a longer stay or even with Raf as his coach but I know it is not going to happen - sigh...
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Yes, that the direction of the jump was not quite right, it looked fine from the outside, but he didn't always have the physical energy to land the jump. He realised it already during the approach and essentially went into the 4Lz expecting not to land it properly, so unsurprisingly he didn't.
No, it's not going to happen, nobody is that generous.
There are a lot of interesting moments in the interview, I hope it gets translated.
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I don't know if it was because of the layout, but I feel that Misha might try the quad salchow before the lutz, though, it's interesting that it would be essentially in the second half of the program. I just don't like his pops, and I'm sure he doesn't either. At Bratislava the layout might be the same, at least to ward off potential falls from happening.
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Also, I don't quite understand the concerns that Misha will stick with a layout that will end up with him being overtaken by other Russian guys. So far he has proven quite tenacious in clinging to that #1 even after everyone was ready to bury him, and his team obviously keeps a keen eye on what other Russian men are doing and adjusts accordingly. You don't get to where he is by completely lacking ambition and being ready to fade into the background at the first opportunity instead of fighting to stay on top.
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That much is obvious to me. They want to get a rise out of him, especially when some big voices in FS in Russia usually only talk about the quads, or about how Misha isn't skating programs that men should skate. He didn't get to where he is by doing nothing. I'm sure he wants to see how the new rules will adapt to his skating. It's just not possible for him to get good scores while falling three times in a program. He has to see how he's going to fare, and then move up from that.
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Yes, it's rather unlikely that a solo 3S followed by a 3Lz-Eu-2S is the final layout. But he obviously needs better stamina to even think of quads that late in the program.
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The impression of those who saw the test skates live was still "Misha and everyone else" (the other guys sure helped though :noshake: ).
So much to dissect in that interview. Vaitsehovskaya was really trying to get a rise out of him with the quad question. At one point she warns him that the second mark will go down if he doesn’t put in quads, but Kolyada seems to have faith in his own skating ability being good enough to earn those pcs. I think that short program in Milan, where he scored 100+ with the limited tech content, helped in this regard. He seems to have a very positive and mature mentality, and I hope it translates to more confident skating this season.
The part about Raf was so cute. They were on a bus, Raf offered to help him, and Kolyada immediately agreed out of happiness. He also seems to really really love Nathan. Despite not speaking English, he says he can just intuit that he’s a good person
I can’t believe he stayed in a motel in downtown Los Angeles. The thing that surprised him most about America was hearing the gunshots and police sirens at night
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The part about Raf was so cute. They were on a bus, Raf offered to help him, and Kolyada immediately agreed out of happiness. He also seems to really really love Nathan. Despite not speaking English, he says he can just intuit that he’s a good person
I can’t believe he stayed in a motel in downtown Los Angeles. The thing that surprised him most about America was hearing the gunshots and police sirens at night
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So much to dissect in that interview. Vaitsehovskaya was really trying to get a rise out of him with the quad question. At one point she warns him that the second mark will go down if he doesn’t put in quads, but Kolyada seems to have faith in his own skating ability being good enough to earn those pcs. I think that short program in Milan, where he scored 100+ with the limited tech content, helped in this regard. He seems to have a very positive and mature mentality, and I hope it translates to more confident skating this season.
The part about Raf was so cute. They were on a bus, Raf offered to help him, and Kolyada immediately agreed out of happiness. He also seems to really really love Nathan. Despite not speaking English, he says he can just intuit that he’s a good person
I can’t believe he stayed in a motel in downtown Los Angeles. The thing that surprised him most about America was hearing the gunshots and police sirens at night
Say what you want about Vaits but her interviews are always interesting. Though the question about Oly team SP should be banned at this stage she did get some details out of Mika we haven't heard before, heartbreaking as these are
Re layout I see it as a 'we are not going to make same mistakes we made last season''. I feel more confident than I was this time last year when we learned his layout with 4 lz, 4T & 4sal. They are going to take one step at the time building his confidence and increasing the tech as the season progresses - this approach has a chance to work, last season's one obviously didn't, it might for some people but not for him. Also he seems very mindful of the fact that he needs time to get used to a more intense 4 min program which makes sense.
Guys I just realised the men SP at Ondrei Nepela is on Thursday week - wow the season is truly under way!!! :hap85:
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At this moment his chances to stay the no 1 in Russian Team are as good as for Aliev (who tried but missed his quads and is also not more reliable to do them all clean in a program), Samarin (who might have better quads but is messy in technique and lacking in choreography), Voronov (as unstable as Mika in quads department) or Kovtun (which has to rise again to international standards). Mika has the purity in his technique, Aliev his soft movements, Samarin his quads, Kovtun possible his quads, Voronov - his experience - each of them has the chance to shine and take the lead. Erokhov has the build up for being the junior world gold medalist and is a bit wild card right now how he will adjust to senior (at this moment i am not seeing him being superior to Mika it will depends on his quads and how stable he is, his choreography and presentation last year were pretty boring).
I don't see an easy task for Mika to keep his no 1 in the team. He needs a second different quad if the others deliver. I hope he will get the chance to pace himself better than the last season which was a mad competition with the result that all of them imploded. His team seems already more wise and cool.
I don't see an easy task for Mika to keep his no 1 in the team. He needs a second different quad if the others deliver. I hope he will get the chance to pace himself better than the last season which was a mad competition with the result that all of them imploded. His team seems already more wise and cool.
Erokhov is such a wild card, especially since he has the same CS and GP assignments as Misha. It will be interesting to see how rapidly his star rises, particularly in relation to Kolyada.
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Which is why Misha can't make big mistakes anymore. Erokhov has more quads than Misha. A lot more.
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