Mikhail Kolyada

[coldblueeyes]

He landed another 4s in the official practice, and with a 4t and 3a, no other jumps. Everything seems fine.

Edit:https://twitter.com/boyangjins/status/1058325753517862913

Video is a bit all over the place, but the 4s is there, and a step out on the 4t.

 

[Tutto]

Men' practice today:

https://twitter.com/boyangjins/status/1058322152988925952

so far I can only see that Mika is there

 

[vorravorra]

I wish they would put it after 4T-3T not as a first jump

Hard to say. 4S requires concentration to get the entry and takeoff just right. And they have tried it as a second jump many times and unsuccessfully. It's difficult to say in general which jump order works best for Misha. People have even suggested putting something like a 3Lz first so that a successful first jump will set the mood for the rest of the program, but on the other hand Misha knows he can jump a 3Lz so his mind will still be on the first difficult element rather than "great, I landed a 3Lz".

 

[Tutto]

Hard to say. 4S requires concentration to get the entry and takeoff just right. And they have tried it as a second jump many times and unsuccessfully. It's difficult to say in general which jump order works best for Misha. People have even suggested putting something like a 3Lz first so that a successful first jump will set the mood for the rest of the program, but on the other hand Misha knows he can jump a 3Lz so his mind will still be on the first difficult element rather than "great, I landed a 3Lz".

I am in favour of 'settle the nerves with 3lz first' but of course only Mika knows whats best for him. His 4sal is beautiful in practice. I think it is a good decision to concentrate on the sal it looks less 'wild' than 4lz and probably puts less strain on his back?

Edit: the only time we actually saw a rotated 4sal (fall) in competition was at CoR last year if I am not mistaken. It was a second jump, yes, but straight after a fall on 4lz which sure didn't help

 

[coldblueeyes]

I don't know if we ever saw him landing this many salchows in practice, though. So maybe something is going right in training. Alas, putting a 3lz as a first jump is just silly at this point, he can do it in his sleep. I don't know when was the last time ha botched a 3lz.

 

[vorravorra]

I am in favour of 'settle the nerves with 3lz first' but of course only Mika knows whats best for him. His 4sal is beautiful in practice. I think it is a good decision to concentrate on the sal it looks less 'wild' than 4lz and probably puts less strain on his back?

Edit: the only time we actually saw a rotated 4sal (fall) in competition was at CoR last year if I am not mistaken. It was a second jump, yes, but straight after a fall on 4lz which sure didn't help

Misha jumped quite a few quad sals last season, he popped one at the Cup of China and Euros and I can't find the protocol for Finlandia, but the ones at Nepela, CoR, GPF and Nationals were rotated, he just didn't land any. And at the Olympics and Worlds he didn't attempt quad sals.

ETA: he jumped a triple instead of a quad sal at Finlandia.

 

[Tutto]

I don't know if we ever saw him landing this many salchows in practice, though. So maybe something is going right in training. Alas, putting a 3lz as a first jump is just silly at this point, he can do it in his sleep. I don't know when was the last time ha botched a 3lz.

Not if it'd settle him into the program
He fell on 3lz in the last season CoR and the year before too - hope he won't make a habit of it! Helsinki is bad enough but CoR is going to be even worse for me (Mika + Gracie!!!) I NEED to settle my nerves

 

[Tutto]

Misha jumped quite a few quad sals last season, he popped one at the Cup of China and Euros and I can't find the protocol for Finlandia, but the ones at Nepela, CoR, GPF and Nationals were rotated, he just didn't land any. And at the Olympics and Worlds he didn't attempt quad sals.

oh thanks for correction so he did I got it mixed up with that at CoR was the only time he rotated all three quads

 

[vorravorra]

oh thanks for correction so he did I got it mixed up with that at CoR was the only time he rotated all three quads

He rotated all three at Nepela and GPF as well. CoR had the only FS without any pops and lost combos.

 

[vorravorra]

Not if it'd settle him into the program
He fell on 3lz in the last season CoR and the year before too - hope he won't make a habit of it! Helsinki is bad enough but CoR is going to be even worse for me (Mika + Gracie!!!) I NEED to settle my nerves

He fell on it when it was at the end of the free skate. I doubt he'd have trouble if he jumped it as his first. He might fall on whatever it is he'd have to put at the end though.

 

[vorravorra]

I don't know if we ever saw him landing this many salchows in practice, though. So maybe something is going right in training. Alas, putting a 3lz as a first jump is just silly at this point, he can do it in his sleep. I don't know when was the last time ha botched a 3lz.

How many successful attempts that was in total, three? A better record than before. And did he have unsuccessful ones, nobody seems to have mentioned them?

 

[Tutto]

He fell on it when it was at the end of the free skate. I doubt he'd have trouble if he jumped it as his first. He might fall on whatever it is he'd have to put at the end though.

I don't know about that but one thing is for sure he'd double the loop no matter what - my 'favourite' jump of his

He rotated all three at Nepela and GPF as well. CoR had the only FS without any pops and lost combos.

You beat me today every time it must be the nerves + work deadline in combination
I wish it was Sunday night already

 

[coldblueeyes]

How many successful attempts that was in total, three? A better record than before. And did he have unsuccessful ones, nobody seems to have mentioned them?

Yeah, that's what I'm talking about, a better record. People really didn't say much about his botched attempts, so it's hard to know. But he landed three good ones, including one in the runthrough, so that's a new precedent.

 

[rachno2]

I don't know about that but one thing is for sure he'd double the loop no matter what - my 'favourite' jump of his

This is too real forget Euros Gold or the 4Lz, my real goal for Misha this season is to land a fully rotated triple loop

 

[vorravorra]

That's not fair lol, he hasn't doubled every loop. He had a 60% success rate on it last season, but it cost him silver twice at GPF and Worlds. At least they moved it up in the jump order if you believe the planned content.

 

[rachno2]

I was joking.....kind of.....

 

[vorravorra]

Maybe they should go all the way and move the loop to the first half where they had it in 2015-2016, it's such a pity to keep losing points on it. Of course that would require moving something to the second half.

 

[vorravorra]

I also hope if Misha has a stepout on the 4T like in the FS runthrough or something doesn't go quite right with the 3A landing he has plans to move the combo to somewhere in the second half instead of just missing it. He is not good at rearranging jumps unless he's practiced it in advance.

 

[coldblueeyes]

I also hope if Misha has a stepout on the 4T like in the FS runthrough or something doesn't go quite right with the 3A landing he has plans to move the combo to somewhere in the second half instead of just missing it. He is not good at rearranging jumps unless he's practiced it in advance.

Well, he's not bad at adding a 3t in the back of a 3lz in the SP, but in the FS he doesn't have the best track record.

 

[vorravorra]

Well, he's not bad at adding a 3t in the back of a 3lz in the SP, but in the FS he doesn't have the best track record.

People keep saying things like "he missed something or other earlier in the program and had one repeat left so why didn't he jump a 3T instead of a 2A" and its just not how he rolls, replacing jumps with completely different ones with different entries on the fly. Jumping a 3A instead of a 2A is as far as he can stretch. So he needs to practice different combinations beforehand so he has a ready algorithm. "A missed, go to B, Y missed, go to Z."