Mikhail Kolyada

[Heleng]

So wonderful to see a cleanish Carmen. Misha's technique is so pure and beautiful, and I mean on everything from spins, to footwork, to jumps Praying that he has better luck next season because I want to see him on podiums

:agree: :agree::agree: Is it clear that I wholeheartedly agree with everything you expressed?

 

[Tutto]

I need help - I can't stop watching his Carmen but I hate the opera, always have, the music stuck in my head I am not a happy person aww!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

TSL recap:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M2rOSEwPfdw

if someone has the patience (and time) to watch the whole 1.43 h of it could you let me know when they discuss Mika - many thanks in advance

 

[Tutto]

Scanned through Russian media - hardly a kind word for Mika, Samarin is a fighter, Mika is a loser what a travesty

TAT was complimentary in her commentary on main Russian channel but still said that 'he could add more 3Ts to everything' ... does she know the rules at all

 

[GGFan]

I need help - I can't stop watching his Carmen but I hate the opera, always have, the music stuck in my head I am not a happy person aww!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

TSL recap:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M2rOSEwPfdw

if someone has the patience (and time) to watch the whole 1.43 h of it could you let me know when they discuss Mika - many thanks in advance

I'm shocked that no one posted timestamps in the comments. There's always someone who does for TSL videos.

They talk about Misha starting at 30:30 but you may not want to listen because Joe Inman is not a fan of Carmen. Joe is mostly interested in music and he thinks the cut is bad.

Dave and Jonathan do not agree with him. They've enjoyed the program throughout the season. They come back to Misha again later on and Joe talks about how much better Brezina is in PCS. It might be upsetting for a fan of Misha to listen to all of this when we know he has some of the best posture and lines out there.

Even experts are wrong sometimes :dev2:

 

[Tutto]

I'm shocked that no one posted timestamps in the comments. There's always someone who does for TSL videos.

They talk about Misha starting at 30:30 but you may not want to listen because Joe Inman is not a fan of Carmen. Joe is mostly interested in music and he thinks the cut is bad.

Dave and Jonathan do not agree with him. They've enjoyed the program throughout the season. They come back to Misha again later on and Joe talks about how much better Brezina is in PCS. It might be upsetting for a fan of Misha to listen to all of this when we know he has some of the best posture and lines out there.

Even experts are wrong sometimes :dev2:

Many thanks! To be honest I don't like the music cuts either so it is okay with me. I would disagree re comparison his PCS with Michal whom I also like very much btw, e.g. both have the best lines in camel spin of the entire field, however I think overall Mika wins the contest if to take into account a posture on landings, ease of speed acceleration and overall flow across the ice

Will listen to them regardless later on - many thanks again

 

[Tutto]

Oh sorry for so many posts - can't stop I guess
I am relieved to see that Mika has retained his 4th position in the World Standings, thank God, and of course he still will be a 'seeded' skater for the GP

 

[Shedi0806]

I need help - I can't stop watching his Carmen but I hate the opera, always have, the music stuck in my head I am not a happy person aww!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

TSL recap:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M2rOSEwPfdw

if someone has the patience (and time) to watch the whole 1.43 h of it could you let me know when they discuss Mika - many thanks in advance

Joe Inman was harsh on everyone I thought.

 

[QueenOfTheRoad]

Oh sorry for so many posts - can't stop I guess
I am relieved to see that Mika has retained his 4th position in the World Standings, thank God, and of course he still will be a 'seeded' skater for the GP

I hope he won't go for COR once again. I wish he would choose something else to don't have so much stress as when he competes home and all the eyes of Russian media is on him.

 

[Tutto]

I hope he won't go for COR once again. I wish he would choose something else to don't have so much stress as when he competes home and all the eyes of Russian media is on him.

I wish that every year and every year he goes, it might not be his choice but the RusFed who want all Russia No1s there, maybe this time they will go for Samarin?

 

[rachno2]

I think Misha is pretty clearly the Russian no 1 right now, unless Kovtun isn't retired as rumored. Even then, there is a strong case for Misha. He beat Samarin everywhere but at Europeans, and Samarin of course placed the lowest here of the three. Besides, Misha is 4th in the ISU World Standing and got the third highest PCS at Worlds, even higher than Shoma. I think he will do CoR.

With Boyang likely going to Cup of China, that means Misha will not be able to defend his title there (too bad—that was where he landed that 4Lz). CoC is right before CoR anyway, and NHK is right after. Maybe IdF? SkAm and Skate Canada are so far away that I assume he will want to avoid them.

 

[Tutto]

I think Misha is pretty clearly the Russian no 1 right now, unless Kovtun isn't retired as rumored. Even then, there is a strong case for Misha. He beat Samarin everywhere but at Europeans, and Samarin of course placed the lowest here of the three. Besides, Misha is 4th in the ISU World Standing and got the third highest PCS at Worlds, even higher than Shoma. I think he will do CoR.

With Boyang likely going to Cup of China, that means Misha will not be able to defend his title there (too bad—that was where he landed that 4Lz). CoC is right before CoR anyway, and NHK is right after. Maybe IdF? SkAm and Skate Canada are so far away that I assume he will want to avoid them.

I think Shoma always goes to SC anyway so that is out but we are running ahead of ourselves, more interesting at the moment is WTT hoping he will be there, I think they do Gala too maybe last chance to skate Chaplin?

 

[coldblueeyes]

I think Shoma always goes to SC anyway so that is out but we are running ahead of ourselves, more interesting at the moment is WTT hoping he will be there, I think they do Gala too maybe last chance to skate Chaplin?

He barely skated this gala number, so I doubt it's going to be the last see of it.

 

[rachno2]

Misha will probably keep Chaplin through the GP series at least, like he did for Nothing Else Matters. I have to admit, it’s a little cheesy for my taste (Hallelujah is still my favorite EX of his), but he seems to have fun doing it. Definitely not the last we’ve seen of it.

 

[vorravorra]

Also, once again - simplified content and Misha doesn't pop the second axel. It's not all nerves.

Uncharacteristic mass doubling, especially at the end, also appears to have been due to lack of form (the loop is a separate issue). I keep thinking about how Misha's illness must have eroded his confidence, especially while he was trying to pretend even to himself that everything is OK. From what Valentina said he may have been trying extra hard in practices trying to overcome it and it still didn't work and sapped his strength further.

 

[RoundedBackCamel]

Joe Inman was harsh on everyone I thought.

Dave and Jonathan were fans of Misha and Jonathan especially of Aliev, calling them the Baryshnikov and Nureyev of figure skating because of their early promise this season. Plus, Jonathan got to use his favorite word “deportment” with Misha, which he appreciated as an opera singer. I was listening and my ears perked up when Joe Inman started slagging everyone for poor carriage and posture, and I think, Aha! Inman will surely have some nice things to say about Kolyada in that department and D&J will surely bring it up. They did throw out the breadcrumbs, but Inman didn’t bite. They thing is, he didn’t know the skaters’ names and I couldn’t take his comments that seriously, although I do agree with a lot of what he said about skaters not skating to the music. So, THEN, I thought surely he will love Shoma, who I think is genius about letting the music flow through him and jumps on crescendos, footwork on staccatos (flamenco). Nope. The opinions seemed pretty random. I thought he might mention Mariah Bell feeling the music. Nope.

Misha’s posture is impeccable. I noticed that in Russia how perfectly aligned their backs are and even our son, who was 20 months old when we adopted him had this amazing posture at a very young age. He always looked like he had just stuck a perfect landing in gymnastics. He still has a perfectly aligned back, but I’m worried he will become a slump-shouldered American now that he is a tweener! The rest our our posture, including my 18 y.o. daughter is pretty bad.

One other thing about this. Some on Twitter misread Misha’s posture as haughty and snobbish. We know that’s not true. It’s pure classical innate Russian skeletal structure and ballet training. I read person on Twitter who called him “kingly.” I loved that.

One other thing. Inman loved Breshina so much but is super old school about music. I was surprised he didn’t like Carmen but liked AC/DC? Anyway, the music edit in Carmen is pretty bad, and I understood why they had to do it, but I thought the earlier choreography (Finlandia?) was much better timed to the music

 

[Heleng]

I need help - I can't stop watching his Carmen but I hate the opera, always have, the music stuck in my head I am not a happy person aww!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

TSL recap:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M2rOSEwPfdw

if someone has the patience (and time) to watch the whole 1.43 h of it could you let me know when they discuss Mika - many thanks in advance

After Inman left, they talk about Misha changing coaches beginning around 1:13. That part was a lot more worth my time to listen to than their discussion about him w Inman.

I’ve caught myself randomly humming to Carmen during this season, so you’re not the only one

 

[coldblueeyes]

Uncharacteristic mass doubling, especially at the end, also appears to have been due to lack of form (the loop is a separate issue). I keep thinking about how Misha's illness must have eroded his confidence, especially while he was trying to pretend even to himself that everything is OK. From what Valentina said he may have been trying extra hard in practices trying to overcome it and it still didn't work and sapped his strength further.

I was thinking about this. This was the first time he completed a planned FS layout without a fall or pop pretty much since Boston, but this season especially, no doubling his jumps at the end of the program, or tripling the quad toe, or falling/popping the axel. He had to work hard to reach this form, but I think moving away from the quad sal, and possibly even the triple loop, might have eased his problems.

I don't really know if at this point it's worth it to compete other quads beside the toe, if he theoretically could work on loop and flip, at least for the coming season. If he manages to reach a physical form that allows him to jump his quads like he did last season, when the falls weren't so disruptive, then fine. But he will keep himself in contention if he manages to go clean with a simpler layout--which we all know he's not very keen on doing, but what can we do.

 

[rachno2]

I was thinking about this. This was the first time he completed a planned FS layout without a fall or pop pretty much since Boston, but this season especially, no doubling his jumps at the end of the program, or tripling the quad toe, or falling/popping the axel. He had to work hard to reach this form, but I think moving away from the quad sal, and possibly even the triple loop, might have eased his problems.

I don't really know if at this point it's worth it to compete other quads beside the toe, if he theoretically could work on loop and flip, at least for the coming season. If he manages to reach a physical form that allows him to jump his quads like he did last season, when the falls weren't so disruptive, then fine. But he will keep himself in contention if he manages to go clean with a simpler layout--which we all know he's not very keen on doing, but what can we do.

I agree, I would rather he limit himself to two quad toes and two triple axels. Look how well Matteo did at Europeans and Universiade with only the toe. Jason probably could have podiumed here with a clean skate. Unfortunately, the Russian media has this warped perception that only one quad is something to be ashamed of: I saw comments about how Samarin was a fighter, while Misha wasn’t, because he went for a more difficult layout in the SP. And I know Misha himself wants to add the salchow, because he knows he can do it. But it’s no secret that the cleanliness AND the presentation suffer when he adds the more difficult quads. I can’t help but be bitter thinking of the podiums he might have been on this season had he not taken the salchow out earlier. There were other extenuating circumstances, of course, but it visibly zapped his strength at GP Helsinki and Rostelecom. I hope next season he takes it out earlier if it’s not working in competition. I’m also scared to imagine the lutz coming back.

The flip is a beautiful jump, other than the edge, but I’m not sure if he can fix it this late in his career. Since he’s already gotten called once (and tech callers generally tend to call the flip more than the lutz), I’m not sure if it’s a great strategy. He lost so many points here because of it. I would rather he try to work on getting a consistent loop, and if it’s giving him more issues than usual he can add the flip as a back-up. But I’m not upset he went for it, especially since it’s a jump he’s clearly more comfortable doing. Skating clean(ish) and getting his confidence back was most important, and he did that.

I’m really glad he said he doesn’t consider this season a complete failure. It was a huge learning experience, and while I disagreed with a lot of the decisions made, I think the simplified layout at Worlds, where it mattered most, is indication that he did learn something.

 

[coldblueeyes]

The flip with the call is worth less than a double axel, which makes a case for a triple loop instead, but we can't know how would he react if he messed up the loop again. It's not like this season he was able to recover from failing a jump as he did on the lead up to the Olympics. I remember his FS back in Rostelecom 2017, he had three falls, but he rotated all his jumps and didn't pop a single one of them. And I can't see him doing that now when he has multiple falls in a program.

Now, if you want a reason to be bitter, with this FS back at Europeans he would have won. And with a clean short here, I'm sure he would have gotten enough PCS to get the bronze again. But I doubt he would have performed two clean programs back to back. Anyway, I loved seeing how relieved he looked after the FS, and the way the crowd reacted to his skate. I hope it gives him a big push to solidify his skating in the coming seasons.

 

[rachno2]

The flip with the call is worth less than a double axel, which makes a case for a triple loop instead, but we can't know how would he react if he messed up the loop again. It's not like this season he was able to recover from failing a jump as he did on the lead up to the Olympics. I remember his FS back in Rostelecom 2017, he had three falls, but he rotated all his jumps and didn't pop a single one of them. And I can't see him doing that now when he has multiple falls in a program.

Now, if you want a reason to be bitter, with this FS back at Europeans he would have won. And with a clean short here, I'm sure he would have gotten enough PCS to get the bronze again. But I doubt he would have performed two clean programs back to back.

Yeah, I know :/ even at Europeans, though, it’s hard to say if he would have skated this layout clean. He was by his own admission extremely nervous there, going last and leading the field. It was a fall on a 3A that hurt him, after all.

I’m not sure why messing up jumps hit him so hard mentally this season. Maybe because practices were (according to him) going better, and he was frustrated that he couldn’t show the results in competition. I’m sure the World medal added some extra pressure, too. But I’m so glad he could end his season with a mostly clean skate. I remember he said he hadn’t been fully satisfied with a free skate since Boston, and now he finally has one to be happy about, three years later.

BTW, misha was just confirmed for WTT not that I’m expecting anything amazing, but it would be great if he could score new season’s bests.