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Mirai should put her money into going to College and getting a good education. Why does she keep doing something she obviously does not enjoy.
Mirai Nagasu's future prospects
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In her defense I agree. Her broadmoore programs were soooo beautiful. It was artistically well thought out and mirai did do those programs justice at such an early stage. But man did she change her layout or something? I remembered the previous program's to be delicate and nuanced, with each movement being significant. Somehow here some stuff seems redundant. Oh wells. If anyone has the broadmoore programmes somewhere do share! Some comparisons should make it more objective. I feel so weird now looking at this recent comp since.... Man where did the magic go? 
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I agree her Broadmoor FS program especially where fantastic and her national FS also have sparkle. Thoses programs are the kind of skating that I wish Mirai decide to go in her skating style.
It's strange that her mental low down so easily, like she doesn't trust herself in some competition.
Maybe, I'm wrong but I think that her national experience have affect her so much, that everytime she face Polina, Ashley or Gracie in a competition, that's affect her mental, because she is certainly thinking about the sadness that the national was to her. I think that she just needs times to refind a balance in her life and skating. On a positive note, Tom has improve her jumping ability
It's strange that her mental low down so easily, like she doesn't trust herself in some competition.
Maybe, I'm wrong but I think that her national experience have affect her so much, that everytime she face Polina, Ashley or Gracie in a competition, that's affect her mental, because she is certainly thinking about the sadness that the national was to her. I think that she just needs times to refind a balance in her life and skating. On a positive note, Tom has improve her jumping ability
The title of this thread is suitably provocative. From Mirai's own comments about her thought process after not being named to the Olympic team, followed by her decision to continue to compete but with a new coach and in a new environment, indicate she certainly does not feel so.
The ladies event seems so unpredictable. In a sport where there are relatively few pivotal events, so much can change over short periods of time. Wonderful talents such as Tuktamesheva have had more acute career arcs thus far, but I hardly see her story as being 'finally written.' USFS seems keen to position Polina aggressively, so will watch with interest to see how that plays out, not just this year but next as well. Especially as she matures physically.
Mirai will hopefully continue to show improvements as a competitor through the season. And, if she can put the triple axel into her arsenal, she will "all of the sudden" become more of a higher profile competitive threat. The perception of her possibly competing a triple axel alone will help her garner more attention, would be my guess.
The ladies event seems so unpredictable. In a sport where there are relatively few pivotal events, so much can change over short periods of time. Wonderful talents such as Tuktamesheva have had more acute career arcs thus far, but I hardly see her story as being 'finally written.' USFS seems keen to position Polina aggressively, so will watch with interest to see how that plays out, not just this year but next as well. Especially as she matures physically.
Mirai will hopefully continue to show improvements as a competitor through the season. And, if she can put the triple axel into her arsenal, she will "all of the sudden" become more of a higher profile competitive threat. The perception of her possibly competing a triple axel alone will help her garner more attention, would be my guess.
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I really hope Mirai can become that skater she was four year ago. I adore her and her last year LP. I guess being a national medalist and not skate at the Olympics didn't help. I hope she can medal at Natinonals this year.
I agree, she didn't have the spart for the last 4 years but she had it in Nationals. And examples like Shizuka Arakawa, Akiko Suzuki and Carolina Kostner proves she is capable of being the great skater in the future.
I agree, she didn't have the spart for the last 4 years but she had it in Nationals. And examples like Shizuka Arakawa, Akiko Suzuki and Carolina Kostner proves she is capable of being the great skater in the future.
It isn't obvious to me that she doesn't enjoy it. What good would college do her? She is the current US bronze medalist. She is making money in skating shows and the season has just begun. Mirai has had bad luck in her career. She was too young to go to Worlds when she won the US title. She was denied a second trip to Worlds when Rachael Flatt didn't withdraw, despite a serious injury and a third trip earlier this year, despite being a top three finisher at Nationals. If and when Mirai does retire, I think she still will still have a future in show skating, just like other former National champions.
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Which national champions that haven't won a World or Olympic medal have a career in show skating?
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I don't think most people believe that she will land the jump in competition. She tends to tighten up and < easier triples, so I don't see how she would be able to rotate that in competition. Obviously anything can happen, but I'd say it is very unlikely that she is credited with full rotation on one during her career.
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She's not done...She's always a slow starter.
Her short program is going to be fine but her long program needs more speed, a big "kwan-like" spiral at the climax of the music, and either a 3F3T or a 3S.
Her short program is going to be fine but her long program needs more speed, a big "kwan-like" spiral at the climax of the music, and either a 3F3T or a 3S.
Not quite sure what constitutes a career, but Alissa Czisny might qualify. And Ryan Bradley.
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I want to say Caryn Kadavy, but she never actually won the U.S. championship and she did get a world bronze one year. Steven Cousins was eight-time British champion but his best finish at worlds was seventh. He was a popular mainstay with Stars on Ice for many years.
Now, of course, there are not many opportunities in North America. Mirai is popular in Japan, though.
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Jeremy Abbott certainly will, even if he never medals at Worlds.
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Rohene Ward is another example (he was national champion of Puerto Rico, although never of the US?).
Navarro/Bommentre and Shawn Sawyer have careers in show skating without any national title.
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Do you know how hard it is to do your OWN choreography? I find it much more difficult to do my own choreo than to choreo for someone else, and I am really a "recreational" skater (ie competitive adult). One thing is when you do your own choreography, you try to stay within your comfort zone in terms of elements/transitions/set ups and a lot of times just don't challenge yourself. Also, when you are doing choreo for someone else, you get a better idea of what it looks like watching them "regurgitate" it back to you after you show them and you start adjusting it where it's not what you thought it would look like. When you are doing your own choreography, you don't really know what it looks like until you get that feedback from the judges. It's the same as teaching yourself how to skate/jump/spin. You don't really want to do that, either (as Kwan found out in 2001-2).
I don't know for certain whether this is a bad fit of programs for Nagasu or whether she just skated them in a "meh"-interpretation kind of way. I think we'll get a better idea once we see Wagner's programs what kind of chroeographer Adam really is as Wagner (IMO) does a much better job of selling programs and committing to choreography over the last several seasons.
It's worth noting that Becky Breswell has a pretty sweet gig playing Elsa on the Frozen on Ice tour, which is currently happening now.
http://web.icenetwork.com/news/2014/06/02/77877500/the-inside-edge-frozen-makes-natural-move-to-ice
Also, Andrew Speroff and Kylie Durate (pairs skaters; and a couple) are doing show skating on Royal Caribbean. There's definitely more to the show skating circuit than stars on ice.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=evevNo7w5UI&t=23m15s
Her double axel here is ENORMOUS. She might be able to do that 3A!
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COE, probably not going to be able to land a 3A competitively, although she may land some that are less than a 1/4 short in practice time and again. Since growing more womanly, she's struggled to not << the 3T in the combo and < or << on easier triples than 3A. I suspect if they DO add the 3A to the program, that it would be in the first minute and that later in the program, there'd be a bunch of < and << jumps (no matter her physical conditioning level) because she's not known as the strongest competitor mentally and the 3A is going to take a huge mental toll no matter the outcome (landed, <, <<, fall). Look at Mao throughout her career and she was adding 3A's to program from a very young age.
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I am very concerned about her rotating her jumps. Some of those looked UR'd to me. She also seems so...heavy on the ice. NOT physically heavy, she looks like she's in great shape. But there's something sluggish about the way she moves. I don't know if it's a conditioning issue but it prevents her from really SELLING the program.
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