Pairs SP

[waxel]

12 hours later ... on-demand still not available on icenetwork?

 

[~tapdancer]

12 hours later ... on-demand still not available on icenetwork?

I'm wondering if they are trying to fix it...they had some major audio issues when it was live. You couldn't hear the music for the last 3 or 4 couples...it was terrible.

 

[london_calling]

I'm wondering if they are trying to fix it...they had some major audio issues when it was live. You couldn't hear the music for the last 3 or 4 couples...it was terrible.

That's odd, the same thing happened at Skate America with the Pairs SP.

 

[Kinga]

I also find D&D are extremely boring. All of their programs are pretty generic with little choreography. I'm wondering how much longer they'll be able to sell their so-called 'chemistry' to adoring fans.

I dont find them boring (but of course everyone can feel differently). I think they play wonderfully with the music.

 

[mystichaze]

I like D&D but i found nothing close to the feeling of "Carmen" to their LP. I still enjoy them though.

 

[fiercemao]

I dont find them boring (but of course everyone can feel differently). I think they play wonderfully with the music.

Being musical does not mean the program has real choreography & transition. You can be very musical by placing each big element perfect in sync with every music note with only stroking in between, but that does not make your program an interesting senior level program. Here's some 'counting' of the top three SP's 'transitions' and 'choreography'...

do a little quantification on thesophisticated choreography.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IBlF0PiGrzQ

Counting their 'choreography', there's this beginning pose, a little bit 'hand-waving' going into the sbs spins. Transition? The only obvious transition is the difficult entrance going into the sbs jump. The only innovative big element is their spiral. There is absolutely NO choreography/links between their elements except stroking and occasionally hand waving.

Let's take another look at M&B's choreography.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y0lkk5nuaFY

little dancing->innovative combo spins ->another little dancing->lift->stroking->sbs jump->dancing->difficult entry into twist immediately into innovative spiral->a little dance lift into->sbs spins->another little dancing ->stroking->throw->dancing lift->death spiral->another little dancing to end.

There is NO comparison in D&D's SP and M&B's SP in terms of sophistication of choreography and transition. D&D's programs are generally very bareboned, all they do is selling so called 'chemistry' to adoring fans.

K&S's SP.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HgTl4y-60OE
opening dancing->dancing lift into sbs jump->a little 'gliding'->dancing lift into twist->a little mirror step->dancing lift into throw->stroking with good arm movement-> lift->innovative 'squat' entry into death spiral->sbs spins->stroking->innovative spiral->combo spin to end.

When you break down the entire program into pieces, you can really notice the big difference between the programs in terms of sophistication and difficulty. If PCS can be qualitifiable like this, it might be less subjective.

 

[Joesitz (RIP)]

Being musicaL doesn't even make you do a better quad. But not being musical does not make the choreography work. That is why choreographers listen quite intensely to the music in their work.

However, I have seen some ho hum choreography but the skater made it look better.

 

[janetliz]

My photos from the Pairs short program are here:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/janetliz/sets/72157608673145735/

 

[gold12345]

My photos from the Pairs short program are here:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/janetliz/sets/72157608673145735/

Good pictures, thanks!

 

[fumie_fumie]

My photos from the Pairs short program are here:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/janetliz/sets/72157608673145735/

thank you. awesome. I enjoy every one of them.