Correct.OK, now I'm thinking it must be "Planned Program Content Sheet."
Correct.OK, now I'm thinking it must be "Planned Program Content Sheet."
OK, I finally found the time actually to read the Gold Medal proposals (aka, the Z-scores) put forward in the first post. Wow, that's an impressive chunk of work. Unlike the current rules, IMHO these have a robustness and internal consistency that is very impressive.Several of us have been discussing some of the flaws within the CoP regarding jump combinations and other such issues. I have taken it upon myself to go through and fix everything that I currently see wrong with the judging system as it stands (have been working on this for some time now; I submit my ideas with the 2007-2008 season updates in mind as well)....
4Lutz - 9.8 (-1.6, +1 for GOE)
4Loop - 9.4 (-1.5, +1 for GOE)...
It would still be cool to be able to see them. We could compare what was originally planned with what the skaters actually did, and speculate on the reasons for the changes.
But the main thing is, all those lovely numbers for me to wallow in.
In my version of CoP for the Short Program, though, I don't have that rule (automatic deduction if the skater doesn't do at least a Triple/Double combination).
First of all, thanks to GM. I actually understood what you wrote so maybe I am not a total lame brain.:yes:If the requirement is a combination with no jump less than two revolutions then _any_ combination with a single is a catastrophic failure and technically a 3fl1tl is worse than a 2fl2tl*. Even a quad toeloop followed by a single toeloop would be a catastrophic failure and worse than a 2fl2tl.
If there aren't large deductions for catastrophic mistakes in the SP then why have the SP at all? A qualifying and final round with the LP (or LP alone) should be quite sufficient.
That said, I'm not sure if under 6.0 Ando wouldn't have won the LP. At any Asada would have been buried in fourth or worse under 6.0 and the wiiner wouldn't have been different.
Mafke - Not sure about your last sentence.
But the first version was , too, LOL.My last paragraph (now with readability goodness added!)
Yes. In fact, the two have almost changed roles. The short program often displays more varied skating skills and better choreography, while the LP is about shoe-horning in as many jumps as possible before the buzzer goes off.To paraphrase the Protopopovs, instead of an SP and LP we now have a SLP and LSP...
If there aren't large deductions for catastrophic mistakes in the SP then why have the SP at all? A qualifying and final round with the LP (or LP alone) should be quite sufficient.
Mafke said:If the requirement is a combination with no jump less than two revolutions then _any_ combination with a single is a catastrophic failure and technically a 3fl1tl is worse than a 2fl2tl*. Even a quad toeloop followed by a single toeloop would be a catastrophic failure and worse than a 2fl2tl.
Anyway...there are no other "catastrophic" deductions anyway? If a lady does a Level 1 Layback, it's a Level 1 Layback. Not a Level 1 Layback with a -3 GOE.