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Meoima

Match Penalty
Joined
Feb 13, 2014
Can anyone help me with the shortest gap in height in pairs? Usually I can see that male parter is over 17cm taller than his female partner. Is there any top pair that was very successful with just about 10-15cm apart?
 

Junstella

Rinkside
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Dec 19, 2014
Having said about tano, can we expect any 'Zayak rule' for tano in future?

Not only how many times they do, but you know...some tano jumpers couldn't stretch their arms above their head, so it's not always look beautiful:disapp:
 

gkelly

Record Breaker
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Jul 26, 2003
There's been a whole thread on the topic recently: Overuse of tano jump

It wouldn't be easy to put an official limit on them, on any variation that affects GOE, because they're not called or counted by the tech panel. They just figure into the judges' evaluation of how well the jump was done, in conjunction with all the other positive and negative aspects of the jump. And each judge makes the determination for each jump separately. There isn't a way of keeping track to officially limit them.

All I can think of would be a written guideline to judges not to reward difficult variations that are done poorly or on jumps that are done poorly (which would probably just be putting in writing the way most judges already consider them), and to consider the variety or lack thereof in jump variations when assessing Choreography.
 

Sam-Skwantch

“I solemnly swear I’m up to no good”
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Dec 29, 2013
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Is there any way to incorporate an Ina Bauer into a SP? Does anyone do it? The only reason I can think of is for a difficult entry into a 2a. It's my understanding that an Ina Bauer only scores points thru ChSeq which I don't think is allowed in the Sp.
 

Sandpiper

Record Breaker
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Apr 16, 2014
Is there any way to incorporate an Ina Bauer into a SP? Does anyone do it? The only reason I can think of is for a difficult entry into a 2a. It's my understanding that an Ina Bauer only scores points thru ChSeq which I don't think is allowed in the Sp.
You can do one as part of your choreography/transitions. It wouldn't count toward the first mark, but it should count toward the second, right?
 

Sam-Skwantch

“I solemnly swear I’m up to no good”
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You can do one as part of your choreography/transitions. It wouldn't count toward the first mark, but it should count toward the second, right?

So if you are in the last group it would be worth more :laugh:
 
Joined
Jun 21, 2003
Can anyone help me with the shortest gap in height in pairs? Usually I can see that male parter is over 17cm taller than his female partner. Is there any top pair that was very successful with just about 10-15cm apart?

Randy Gardner was about 10 cm taller than Tai Babilonia (1979 world champions). Their coach John Nicks had to come up with ways to work around it. For that matter, I'm not sure how much taller Nicks was than his sister back in the 1950s.

The brother and sister team of Danielle and Steve Hartsell had about a 12 cm gap. Plus, she had an ample figure for a pairs skater. They won the 1999 U.S. title.

http://www.catslair.com/skating/2001/nationals/pics/sr/pairs/Hartsell1.jpg
 

Scovies

Final Flight
Joined
Jan 10, 2014
Can anyone help me with the shortest gap in height in pairs? Usually I can see that male parter is over 17cm taller than his female partner. Is there any top pair that was very successful with just about 10-15cm apart?

Sui/Han's had a sizable height difference as juniors, but she's grown quite a bit taller and they look pretty close in height now. I can't find any updated numbers for their heights, though.
 

StitchMonkey

Record Breaker
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Jul 31, 2014
Is there a site (or part of this site) that lets you search by coaches to see that skaters are in their stable? Do we think that might be useful and/or interesting to have?
 

ice coverage

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Feb 27, 2012
Is there a site (or part of this site) that lets you search by coaches to see that skaters are in their stable? Do we think that might be useful and/or interesting to have?

If you don't need something absolutely exhaustive:

For skaters with ISU and/or icenetwork bios, it would not take superhuman effort to use a search engine to create some pretty good lists by coach. (Manual checking would be necessary to weed out those for whom the coaching relationship has ended.)

For Google, these search terms will work (along with the coach's name, of course):

site:web.icenetwork.com/skaters/

site:.isuresults.com/bios​

Playing around with the coaching data on the statsonice site also could be helpful. Parts of it require a paid membership; parts of it are free. The site still is quite new, and I would imagine that data are being added all the time.
e.g., https://statsonice.com/coach/aaron/lowe/ (includes coach and choreographer data)​
 
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silverfoxes

Record Breaker
Joined
Feb 16, 2014
Is there a site (or part of this site) that lets you search by coaches to see that skaters are in their stable? Do we think that might be useful and/or interesting to have?

For Russian coaches, you can use FSkate.ru (with Google Translator, if needed). As an example, here is Evgeni Rukavitsin's page which lists his current skaters and previous ones as well. Click on the letter of the alphabet at the top to find who you are looking for.

I don't know if such a site exists for other countries, unfortunately.
 

peg

Medalist
Joined
Jan 17, 2014

Thanks! I'd wondered the same thing.

And on a related note, something I've wanted to ask for quite some time:

Could some of our native Russian speakers tell me which syllable is emphasized in each skaters name so I know how to pronounce them (especially the names with O's. I realized during the Olympics that I was pronouncing Voloshozar and Sotnikova all wrong. Can you help me out with some of the others? Thanks!
 
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