Random Figure Skating Questions

[CaroLiza_fan]

It's been a while since there was a properly stupid question asked here (probably a side-effect of the thread being moved to the reference forum). So, it is time I put that right!

The subject of male and female forms of surnames has cropped up many times (for example, when mrrice brought it up in this very thread). And we have established how many of them are converted:

Leonov becomes Leonova
Medvedev becomes Medvedeva
Lipnitsky becomes Lipnitskaya
Březina becomes Březinová
Dušek becomes Dušková
Björgvinsson becomes Björgvinsdóttir

I think that's most of the common ways of converting male surnames to female covered.

So, my question is: what is the male form of Pogorilaya?

CaroLiza_fan

 

[dorispulaski]

"My mom and dad come from Ukraine, from Kharkov, and I and my older brother were born in Russia, - says his biography Anna. - About our name dad told me: someone from the distant ancestors survived the fire, that so there was our name.

http://mosfigurist.ru/?p=1180

 

[petitebrie]

The male form of Pogorilaya is Pogorily. As Doris points out it actually means burnt up or destroyed by fire, so it’s a very fierce name indeed.

 

[JMJ2015]

Some of the Canadian commentators went through judges' training when the judging system changed. I think Tracy Wilson went through the training for a tech "callers". I don't know if they ever actually judged or controlled, but they felt they needed the training in order to comment intelligently on the scores. I imagine their employer (CBC, CTV) paid their expenses for the training, though I can't recall if they actually said anything about that.

I've heard the Eurosports commentators say they aren't allowed to take the classes so that must have been outlawed at some point. I've heard them say several times things like "In my view but I don't have the technical training, commentators aren't allowed to do that", so I think they would if they could. Tracy Wilson was smart to do it as a coach as well as commentator.

 

[CaroLiza_fan]

"My mom and dad come from Ukraine, from Kharkov, and I and my older brother were born in Russia, - says his biography Anna. - About our name dad told me: someone from the distant ancestors survived the fire, that so there was our name.

http://mosfigurist.ru/?p=1180

Mmmm. Very interesting. I never realised that Anna's parents were Ukrainian.

I suppose that explains why sky_fly20 was so adament that Anna should switch to representing the Ukraine.

And there I was thinking it was just another case of her redistributing the Russians amongst the former Soviet states (she did like to do that did our skyfly...!)

The male form of Pogorilaya is Pogorily. As Doris points out it actually means burnt up or destroyed by fire, so it’s a very fierce name indeed.

Thank you. I wasn't sure if it worked the same way as the Lipnitskaya and Butyrskaya examples brought up previously, so thank you for confirming that it does.

And thank you both for pointing out what "Pogorilaya" actually means. (I am finding it really fascinating learning about the meanings of Russian names!)

So, now that I know what it means, I'm wondering whether Anna was making a statement by using Stravinski's "Firebird" last season, or whether was just coincidence...

CaroLiza_fan

 

[Sam-Skwantch]

If I'm not mistaken Nicole Rajicova went by Nicole Rajic until she began representing Slovakia. A very good decision for her because she would not have had as many opportunities to compete at the international events and reach the level she has otherwise IMO.

Too bad there isn't a chance of seeing Mariah Bellscova anytime soon. I think with more exposure she could have really done well for herself. Such is life :dumb:

 

[Sam-Skwantch]

WTT stupid question.

Is it pronounced Spo-Kane or Spo-Can? I've heard both.

 

[ice coverage]

Stupid question about on-ice training:

What is shown in Shotaro Omori's training video at approx. 1:48?​

The link to the video is in the OP of the Share It thread for Sho.

http://goldenskate.com/forum/showth...y-to-US-Nats&p=1325875&viewfull=1#post1325875​

Looks as if he's skating with resistance bands positioned around both his upper and lower extremities?

What exactly is the benefit of the yellow bands?

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WTT stupid question.

Is it pronounced Spo-Kane or Spo-Can? I've heard both.

You mean Team Challenge Cup question .

I know you meant no harm, but I think that conflating the two runs the risk of confusing people who are unaware that TCC's format will be very different from WTT's.

(Meanwhile, I will refrain from confusing the pronunciation issue by giving the opinion of someone who has never set foot in Spokane :hopelessness:.)

As long as I already have opened my big fat mouth ...
I hope you don't mind if I add my humble opinion that I would prefer to see this kind of not-so-stupid-question asked in a topical thread.

If you ask in the TCC thread, CoyoteChris prob. will answer before long.
And the definitive answer will remain more accessible to all who are interested in TCC.

Chris or another kind soul likely will give an answer here in the Stupid Questions thread, but I fear that the answer quickly will get buried as newer unrelated "stupid" questions of all kinds are added.
By the time April and TCC roll around, it certainly will be buried.

Pls don't get me wrong -- the Stupid Questions thread is great for a lot of other types of question.
But I wish that questions of relevance to existing thread topics were asked in those threads.

One of the best things about the Stupid Questions thread, IMO, is that it has encouraged all of us to speak up and ask our "stupid" questions -- and has made clear that GS as a whole (any and all threads) is a friendly place to ask "stupid" questions.

 

[mrrice]

Hello Everyone, I have a question regarding Angela Nikodinov. I remember seeing her in Vancouver in 2001 and really loving her. She was fast and exciting. Here's my question. I think Angela's Parents were from Bulgaria. Is this correct? If so, why didn't she go by Nikodinova? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qGsMDXLyXxs

P.S. Have a look at her layback......

 

[bartlebooth]

Hello Everyone, I have a question regarding Angela Nikodinov. I remember seeing her in Vancouver in 2001 and really loving her. She was fast and exciting. Here's my question. I think Angela's Parent were from Bulgaria. Is this correct? If so, why didn't she go by Nikodinova? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qGsMDXLyXxs

P.S. Have a look at her layback......

I'm not 100% sure, but I think that it is because she was born in the U.S., therefore her birth was registered in a place where family names don't change according to gender.
Nastia Liukin was born in Russia, but then her family moved to the U.S. and her surname is Liukin, not Liukina.
I don't know what happened to Ksenia Makarova's surname when she got American citizenship.

 

[Lester]

Haha, what a coincidence. I was just watching some of her programs today
I also think what the above poster says is correct.

 

[mrrice]

Good Morning All,

Canadians, do you guys watch RMR? I stumbled across this Video while watching a report on Canada's Wonderland. It's a large Amusement Part outside of Toronto and thought it was great. This Guy talks to, and tries to skate with, the Canadian National Figure Skaters and their Synchronized skating team as well. He's very funny. Patrick Chan, Jeffery Buttle,Tessa and Scott, as well as the entire Synchro team are all in this video clip.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ZCf_o6aV6g

 

[Lester]

I am sorry for the stupid question but do not Nelli Zhiganshina & Alexander Gazsi have a fan fest thread? I tried looking but I couldn't find one.

 

[dorispulaski]

I am sorry for the stupid question but do not Nelli Zhiganshina & Alexander Gazsi have a fan fest thread? I tried looking but I couldn't find one.

You are correct. At this time, Nelli and Alexander do not have a Fan Fest thread. We have always encouraged fans to start their own fan fests, and so far no one has started one for them. I certainly hope you (or anyone else) will do one for them, because I have always loved their unique style of dance! It would be lovely to have a place to go and revisit them.

If you ever wonder what fan fests exist, we have an index thread here:
http://www.goldenskate.com/forum/sh...se-read-before-posting-Rules-Links-to-Skaters

 

[Lester]

You are correct. At this time, Nelli and Alexander do not have a Fan Fest thread. We have always encouraged fans to start their own fan fests, and so far no one has started one for them. I certainly hope you (or anyone else) will do one for them, because I have always loved their unique style of dance! It would be lovely to have a place to go and revisit them.

If you ever wonder what fan fests exist, we have an index thread here:
http://www.goldenskate.com/forum/sh...se-read-before-posting-Rules-Links-to-Skaters

Thanks! If fans can start one, I'll certainly do so when I have a bit more time )

 

[dorispulaski]

That's wonderful!

 

[mrrice]

CANADIANS, HELP!!!! Who is Jann Arden?? I just heard a song called "You Love Me Back" and I love it. Why hasn't a Canadian Lady skated to her music? I realize there are a ton of talented Canadian singers but, I've never heard of her.

 

[JMJ2015]

What is the purpose of the extra bars on Yuzu's skates? I have been watching carefully and don't see any other skater with the same style of skate. I am sure it's a brand thing but it must have some benefit to him. (His blades have an extra piece inside the area that is usually a closed sort-of rectangle from where the blades attach to the boot). Hard to explain so hopefully someone understand this probably very stupid question. Thanks!

 

[karne]

I think I know what you mean - this?

They're actually quite common nowadays. Lots of the top skaters wear them, and lots of the non-top skaters too. Something to do with trying to make the blade stronger or more centered or something.

 

[CaroLiza_fan]

While discussing the number of entries to the Senior American Pairs Championships (ironically in the Withdrawals Thread!), I mentioned something in passing that I then thought might be worth exploring more in-depth in the reference forum.

You know the way that to compete at the major ISU championships, you have to meet certain criteria. You (or the youngest skater in a Pairs or Dance partnership) have to be 15 or over on the previous 1[SUP]st[/SUP] July, and you have to have achieved a certain minimum TES.

Well, I am curious to know if there are similar systems in place for National Championships in countries where the entries are based on the results of regional championships. The countries that immediately come to mind are America, Canada and Russia.

In the countries I just mentioned, there are a certain number of skaters that are pre-qualified to Nationals based on their international performances, and then the rest of the entries are based on the results of the regional championships.

I'm not sure how it works with the Sectionals in Canada. But in America, the Top 4 from each Sectional go through, and in Russia the Top so many in the overall Russian Cup Series standings go through (numbers vary according to category).

But, is it automatic that you get to compete at Nationals if you are in a qualifying position, or are there extra hoops to jump through?

It has been obvious for a long time that a lot of National Championships don't bother with the age rule. Hence why we were able to see 13 year old Alisa Fedichkina in the Senior Russian Ladies Championship this year.

But, do you have to have achieved a certain standard (be it a minimum TES or something else) to be allowed to compete at Nationals?

It would be interesting to know if any limitations like these were being used at National level.

CaroLiza_fan