^To follow up on that, was there a limit in number of jumps in the combo? I thought it was three, but then I remembered that Irina did a 4-jump combo in SLC. Why didn't anyone try something crazy like a 6-jump combo for the wow factor? (Or perhaps someone did?)
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Here it is. Go for it!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yqM6-Fh-o-0
Such gorgeous, soft skating...just to die for. And very little yakking from the commentators!
combo with multiple single and double jumps by roller/ice skater
Such combinations or sequences were also common and at some points required by pair teams
sequence with two triples, a double, and some other hops, closely followed by a double axel
But I don't know of anyone doing more than three triples (or a quad plus several triples) in one combination or even one sequence. Just too difficult, and maybe a waste of triples that could be executed with better quality elsewhere in the program on their own.
Such combinations or sequences were also common and at some points required by pair teams
sequence with two triples, a double, and some other hops, closely followed by a double axel
But I don't know of anyone doing more than three triples (or a quad plus several triples) in one combination or even one sequence. Just too difficult, and maybe a waste of triples that could be executed with better quality elsewhere in the program on their own.
Right, I'd forgotten about the "series of hop jumps." They seemed to have disappeared by the tail end of 6.0, replaced by jump combos closer to what we'd see today. (I'm fairly happy about this change, in singles skating, since it always seemed a bit jerky to me. I will miss G&G's sequences though!). I was talking more about something like 3Lz-3T-2T-2L (for the men; I dunno if any women can do this), since it could potentially be a wow move even if it didn't add any triples (just like the 4-3-2 was seen as far better than just 4-3). Landing 4 triples in combination would definitely be too difficult and wasteful.
Marina Kielmann used to be a roller skater, pretty high ranked.
She had a killer loop combination :
http://youtu.be/nHA091VZyo0?t=3m52s
She had a killer loop combination :
http://youtu.be/nHA091VZyo0?t=3m52s
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Elaine Zayak had a great many jump combination. Check out the end of this routine
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=bHLZfJiAvb0#t=3m40s
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=bHLZfJiAvb0#t=3m40s
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Here is V/M's FD, if you know what piece of music did they use from the start to the end of the first lift that would be great because it wasn't Scriabin's Piano Concerto, Glazunov's Concerto No. 2 (Waltz) nor Glazunov's "The Seasons".
Thankyou
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4rkFqWNGcg4&list=WL&index=53
Here is V/M's FD, if you know what piece of music did they use from the start to the end of the first lift that would be great because it wasn't Scriabin's Piano Concerto, Glazunov's Concerto No. 2 (Waltz) nor Glazunov's "The Seasons".
Thankyou
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4rkFqWNGcg4&list=WL&index=53
That is from the Seasons, "Petit Adagio" from the Autumn part. They just mix the orchestra version with piano version.
Thanks a million, i has been bugging me since Sochi!
I was watching some Youtube videos of some summer performances, and I ran across a Julia Lipnitskaia performance where towards the end of her Schindler's List the music cut out, thank goodness it wasn't a competition.
It got me thinking, is there some kind of back-up for the music in competition? Like a second CD playing simultaneously where if there was a failure with the first all someone would have to do is turn up the volume on the second CD and the first CD off. Or a back-up MP3 track?
And what would happen if it were to occur during a competition and a skater's music cuts off, would they be allowed to restart their program entirely or where the music cut-off, etc.?
Here's a link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3sNExwng_t0&index=61&list=PLnAASBAJ4l-ipHwEaDTfxUQSsFXLHFXtl
It got me thinking, is there some kind of back-up for the music in competition? Like a second CD playing simultaneously where if there was a failure with the first all someone would have to do is turn up the volume on the second CD and the first CD off. Or a back-up MP3 track?
And what would happen if it were to occur during a competition and a skater's music cuts off, would they be allowed to restart their program entirely or where the music cut-off, etc.?
Here's a link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3sNExwng_t0&index=61&list=PLnAASBAJ4l-ipHwEaDTfxUQSsFXLHFXtl
See ISU Communication 1817 regarding Interruptions
http://www.isu.org/en/single-and-pair-skating-and-ice-dance/isu-communications
The passages relevant to music interruptions:
http://www.isu.org/en/single-and-pair-skating-and-ice-dance/isu-communications
The passages relevant to music interruptions:
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1973 Worlds -- Rodnina/Zaitsev's music stopped in the middle and they finished the program without music. They got a standing ovation & won the event.
(Google makes me look so much smarter than I really am!)
Gordeeva and Grinkov had their music stop at Euopeans in 1987. Katia mentions it in her book, so that's the one I know of.
This link shows the program and explains the confusing circumstances:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HOWSUsiUYD8
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And Afair, they were dsq'd for not stopping at a referee's signal. The results show them as withdrawn, but I think dsq is the correct classification.
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/1987_European_Figure_Skating_Championships#Pairs
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/1987_European_Figure_Skating_Championships#Pairs
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Actually, according to the video ang709 gave the link for, they were given the opportunity to re-skate at the end of the competition but weren't able to because they were too tired.
Yeah, the description under the video in this link explains a bit about that. It says they kept skating believing it to be simply a music malfunction. Did they not hear the whistle or the buzzer? The video itself says they kept skating because their coach told them to. I don't remember the reason she gave in the book for continuing. Does anyone remember? My book is in a box right now (I'm moving this week), so I'll have to wait 'til the weekend to pull it out.
And I should clarify: the video of their actual performance doesn't start until about 1:25, and you do see them performing the beginning and end of it, but they cut away to the officials and the audience in the middle...
I wonder if skaters are actually able to hear the whistles/buzzers over their music? I mean we can hear it, a) the commentator is pointing it out B) the sound on the ice vs. TV recording is probably different.
I've never read the book, but according to a comment on the video, it says that they were trained to listen only to their coach. Which seems really suspect/strange - a coach telling a pair to ignore a referee... That sounds more like a skater wanting to deflect the blame of what happened onto someone else (the 'I was only doing what I was told' defense)
Yeah, and I guess if you're really skating in the moment and tuning out all distractions...
The comment about the coach telling them to continue didn't make sense to me either.
