Relations between China, Japan and Korea

[Wrlmy]

Given the bad blood between Korea and Japan.

Does China have equally bad relationship with Korea and Japan?

 

[bekalc]

Does China have equally bad relationship with Korea and Japan?

I know relations between China and Japan aren't great....I don't know about China and Korea.... LOL.. There are intermarriages between Koreans/Japanese in Japan though...At least it's common for ethnic Koreans to marry Japanese..I was mainly talking about the bitter fight that would exist about any such kids, representing one country or the other...

 

[mycelticblessing]

Does China have equally bad relationship with Korea and Japan?

Japan, actually has pretty bad relationships with many Asian countries because of what they did during the war, and because they still refuse to own up to it till this day.

 

[bekalc]

Japan, actually has pretty bad relationships with many Asian countries because of what they did during the war, and because they still refuse to own up to it till this day.

True, but I wasn't referring to that completely actually.....I'm not Asian at all, so I have no dog in any fight..I realize because I'm a Yu-na fan, some might think I'm Korean, but I'm not, I'm Polish and Irish American LOL

But I remember hearing a Professor who went taught in Japan for awhile talk about how Japan was one of the most xenophobic countries he had ever been to. He said that it wasn't how they treated him a European American. He was treated wonderfully, it was how they treated for example the Korean minority in their midst. And the blatent discrimination this minority faced.
So that's kind of what I was referring to as well...

(i've also heard comments from people who are Korean/married to Koreans to hear that Korean society can also be extremely xenophobic.

I want to make something clear though, I think every people group can be xenophobic, and so I'm not judging anyone on this. I think the reason it's more blatent in some places is because well Japan/ Korea or so homogenous nations that they never really had to deal with this issue as much.. .And I can see their reason for being homogenous. Since America is a melting pot, while we do have our issues, we've also just in a functining way had to get over 'at least some of ethinc issues"

Add to historical tensions between two countries and you can get your issues.

 

[Wrlmy]

AFAIK, "souren" (North Korean residents) is the most subject to discrimation in Japan. I'm not trying to defend any kind of ethnic discrimation at all, but "souren" hasn't made a real effort to "belong" to Japanese society on their part. They have their own schools where students are not allowed to speak Japanese and use North Korean texts. They even have their own colleges and strictly "souren" job market. They are also supposedly responsible for numerous Japanese hostages abducted to North Korea for whatever reason. The discrimination against them is extreme, and many of them have been subject to hate crimes.

I'm not really sure about the cause and effect relationship here, so I wouldn't call either party entirely responsible for such social phenomenon. However, there are not many "multicultural" societies like USA. Even most tolerant nations promote interculturalism, and most other nations are homogenous in that regard IMO. So, I wouldn't make any quick judgement on certain national policy or social structure.

I hope I didn't offend anyone, and If I did, I apologize.

 

[jyshin]

oh golly yu na and brian, that is one thing i'll remember for a while rofl
and brian seems to have a pretty good taste in girls (look wise) 1st miss france and now valentina, next it'll be yu na

Dear Brian J...

One of my Caucasian friend married his Asian classmate from college and seem to live happily ever after... and for the future, I thought you might be interested in the secret to his success story.

1> Don't try to learn and understand her language.
One day, he was invited to his Chinese girl friend's family dinner and had the meal of his lifetime. Guess what? He learned, fifteen years later, that the conversation went on that night was the furious parents accusing the daughter for dating that Caucasian. At that time, his girl friend didn't translate a single word about it and all he remembered was the fabulous shrimp dish! ... just to let you know... she is a "media relations and communication" specialist now.

2> You want to win the heart of her mother.
- You can do it by complimenting her food. How? Just dig into the dish that she emphasizes that it didn't turn out the way it usually would. That is the dish she expects to hear compliments from you.
- Tell her that you thought she was her(girlfriend's) older 'sister'

Once the mother likes you, her father will come along.
When he asked her parents to give him their daughter, the father said 'NO'... my friend was shocked and disappointed... then the mother came back to tell him that she sealed the deal... She affirmatively said in her broken English... "I took care him."
No question has been raised ever since and, fifteen years later, he believes that he is the most beloved 'son' in the family.

Korean family is pretty much the same.
I wish you the best luck!

 

[bekalc]

AFAIK, "souren" (North Korean residents) is the most subject to discrimation in Japan. I'm not trying to defend any kind of ethnic discrimation at all, but "souren" hasn't made a real effort to "belong" to Japanese society on their part. They have their own schools where students are not allowed to speak Japanese and use North Korean texts. They even have their own colleges and strictly "souren" job market. They are also supposedly responsible for numerous Japanese hostages abducted to North Korea for whatever reason. The discrimination against them is extreme, and many of them have been subject to hate crimes.

I'm not really sure about the cause and effect relationship here, so I wouldn't call either party entirely responsible for such social phenomenon. However, there are not many "multicultural" societies like USA. Even most tolerant nations promote interculturalism, and most other nations are homogenous in that regard IMO. So, I wouldn't make any quick judgement on certain national policy or social structure.

I hope I didn't offend anyone, and If I did, I apologize.

I was kind of worried about my post, because I didn't want to offend anyone, and I did realize that was a little bit of an issue... However, I was merely trying to show that in the case of Korea/Japan issues, but I wanted to point out that it's not just Koreans hating Japanese. But there is some dislike for Koreans on the Japanese side.
From the little I've read though the younger generation of "souren" is starting to identify themselves as more Japanese, I think they said polls show that one...

I think two with the earlier generations, you have to take into account how terribley the Japanese treated the Koreans in World War II, heck some of the "souren" were forcibily brought to Japan...So it's hard to expect them to go from what they experienced, to "oh boy let's be Japanese" and I think interviews shows that many of the older souren have said basically that.

I DO think it's upseting that Japan has not paid reparations or issued a real public apology for the crimes against other Asians. I know many normal Japanese will admit this happened, but I don't blame the other Asian countries for being extremely angry...Many of Japan's crimes were on par with Nazi Germany's. Of course the younger generation isn't responsible...

Let me make this clear that I think every society has done terrible things in the past, and all human groups and cultures, have the perpensity to do great evil.. So I'm not trying to single Japan out.

 

[shine]

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Many of Japan's crimes were on par with Nazi Germany's. Of course the younger generation isn't responsible...

And I personally wouldn't feel unjust to say that some of the group deeds that were done exceeded even the Nazis.