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Russian Junior Test Skates 2022

The coaches don't put any names on an entry list for test skates, the federation chooses who they want to invite.

It's entirely possible Rus Fed officials also attended/were sent videos, and (as none of the three are on the national team) they decided to choose Maxim over Mark and Nikita based on their respective condition right now. If Maxim was clean (with quads and 3A), he's definitely the most interesting of the three for the federation right now.
Imo, Maxim is a quite perspective skater. Last season was rough for him but he still has solid package to show all his abilities. So good luck to him.
 
Imo, Maxim is a quite perspective skater. Last season was rough for him but he still has solid package to show all his abilities. So good luck to him.
All three have their strengths and weaknesses, and all three had a rough start to the last season, improving a lot towards the end.

Maxim and Nikita have shown a lot of technical potential with quads and triple axels. Both of them are weaker in spins and PCS, though I'd say Nikita is slightly stronger than Maxim in that area, particularly when it comes to spins. However, Maxim has most likely had his biggest growth spurt already, while Nikita will likely shoot up a lot more over the next few years.
Mark has yet to land either a 3A or a quad in competition, but is a strong spinner and is strong in PCS. He isn't likely to grow very tall, which might give him an advantage later on.

Right now, I'd say their scoring potential is on somewhat equal footing, so being able to deliver a clean performance (consistently) is going to be the deciding factor separating them.

All of them have potential, it really comes down to if they can live up to that potential. Figure skating is a fast-paced sport, and I hope all of them can capitalise on the attention shown towards them by the federation right now.
 
Ultimately, though, to make sure they have enough skaters for all 6 stages, do they really have to do test skates? Like, to have 12 skaters per each event, if every skater does 2 events, they need 36 skaters. Unless it’s 6 juniors, 6 seniors, then they need 18 of each.
The Russian cups (Or Russian GP, how they are called this season) help to select the skaters for the nationals. There is 18 spots in women and men, 15 spots in ice dance and 12 spots in pairs at the nationals . So it seems to me that they will have to send to those GP events even skaters who didn’t attend the test skates, because otherwise how would they qualify their skaters for the nationals? How would they decide who deserve the spot number 13-18 in singles?
 
Sorry if this has been asked before…will any Russian comps be able to be viewed on YouTube since Channel One is out? Thank you!
 
Sorry if this has been asked before…will any Russian comps be able to be viewed on YouTube since Channel One is out? Thank you!
Nobody really knows about the live streams on youtube. We will figure it out next week. Stay tuned. ;)

I expect at least the archived streams to be uploaded here maybe the day after the competition: https://youtube.com/channel/UCR7_eJ_lYr7CedzMmgLIRyA

This youtube channel is basically the sports branch of Channel One for foreign viewers. It is only available outside of Russia, afaik.
 
The Russian cups (Or Russian GP, how they are called this season) help to select the skaters for the nationals. There is 18 spots in women and men, 15 spots in ice dance and 12 spots in pairs at the nationals . So it seems to me that they will have to send to those GP events even skaters who didn’t attend the test skates, because otherwise how would they qualify their skaters for the nationals? How would they decide who deserve the spot number 13-18 in singles?
I think that someone mentioned that a competition was flagged as selections now (I forgot, was it SPB tests?), for folks who didn’t make the NT. Plus, they had camps in the summer, so I guess they have an idea how everyone is progressing. This being Russia, though, I am not excluding simple coach favouritism, hence my paranoia about Smirnova’s group skaters.

Like, come on… Avtushenko? Unless he improved marvellously over the summer.
 
Nobody really knows about the live streams on youtube. We will figure it out next week. Stay tuned. ;)

I expect at least the archived streams to be uploaded here maybe the day after the competition: https://youtube.com/channel/UCR7_eJ_lYr7CedzMmgLIRyA

This youtube channel is basically the sports branch of Channel One for foreign viewers. It is only available outside of Russia, afaik.
🙏 please be so! YouTube is so much more convenient! No need to hook up laptop to the tv.
 
I think that someone mentioned that a competition was flagged as selections now (I forgot, was it SPB tests?), for folks who didn’t make the NT. Plus, they had camps in the summer, so I guess they have an idea how everyone is progressing. This being Russia, though, I am not excluding simple coach favouritism, hence my paranoia about Smirnova’s group skaters.

Like, come on… Avtushenko? Unless he improved marvellously over the summer.
Your message doesn’t make sense. What competition has been flagged out as a selection? And are you talking about selection for the nationals? It will have to be several competitions that are used as a selection for the nationals, because skaters won’t be able to qualify through competing at ISU GP events. So they will all have to qualify through some competitions (including the top skaters who are at the national team).
 
Your message doesn’t make sense. What competition has been flagged out as a selection? And are you talking about selection for the nationals? It will have to be several competitions that are used as a selection for the nationals, because skaters won’t be able to qualify through competing at ISU GP events. So they will all have to qualify through some competitions (including the top skaters who are at the national team).
The way I understood a post was that something (test skate? Small competition?) that was flagged as selection for RusGP for skaters who didn’t make NT. Which makes sense to me. They said they will start releasing the lists after the seniors TS, so there is time in September for smaller competitions to select for spots if they need more people.
 
First stage of St Petersburg Cup is marked as a selection for First and Second stages of RGP
Panin Memorial - for Third and Fourth
Second stage of St Petersburg Cup - for Fourth and Fifth (probably a typo and they mean fifth and sixth)
Well, that makes sense that they will limit the number of competitors at the Russian GP. If they didn’t, anyone could compete there and there would not be enough spots. But that’s the same as it has been in the past.
 
This being Russia, though, I am not excluding simple coach favouritism, hence my paranoia about Smirnova’s group skaters.
Tbh, the selection process for the junior men came across as a bit fishy this time. It almost seemed like some coaches were given a certain amount of "quotas" to fill and they could choose which skater they wanted to send. And that's not how it used to be done in previous seasons as far as we know.
Nothing against the younger skaters on the list who are all very talented athletes whose time will soon come, but why some of them were chosen over Popov or Rukhin (who made the JGPF and was fifth at Junior Nats!) is beyond me.
 
Tbh, the selection process for the junior men came across as a bit fishy this time. It almost seemed like some coaches were given a certain amount of "quotas" to fill and they could choose which skater they wanted to send. And that's not how it used to be done in previous seasons as far as we know.
Nothing against the younger skaters on the list who are all very talented athletes whose time will soon come, but why some of them were chosen over Popov or Rukhin (who made the JGPF and was fifth at Junior Nats!) is beyond me.
To be fair, it's a very big possibility that some of the guys were moved up to Seniors (as they need more Senior athletes to fill the GP spots).
 
Tbh, the selection process for the junior men came across as a bit fishy this time. It almost seemed like some coaches were given a certain amount of "quotas" to fill and they could choose which skater they wanted to send. And that's not how it used to be done in previous seasons as far as we know.
Nothing against the younger skaters on the list who are all very talented athletes whose time will soon come, but why some of them were chosen over Popov or Rukhin (who made the JGPF and was fifth at Junior Nats!) is beyond me.
Is Rukhin still junior eligible? Even if yes, he can probably go senior. But on the other hand going senior does not prevent you from junior test skates (f.e. Kondratyuk last season)
 
Is Rukhin still junior eligible? Even if yes, he can probably go senior. But on the other hand going senior does not prevent you from junior test skates (f.e. Kondratyuk last season)
Yes, I think this is Egor's last Junior-eligible season.

Kondratyuk was originally supposed to go to JGPs, that's why he was at Junior test skates. It's only when the other Russian senior men eligible to compete for the 3rd Olympic entry fell apart that they decided to send him to Nebelhorn Trophy and the rest is history.

There won't be any JGP for the Russians this season, so it's really not necessary to invite anyone who's supposed to be competing in Seniors to Junior test skates (unless there's no space at Senior test skates).
 
Yes, I think this is Egor's last Junior-eligible season.

Kondratyuk was originally supposed to go to JGPs, that's why he was at Junior test skates. It's only when the other Russian senior men eligible to compete for the 3rd Olympic entry fell apart that they decided to send him to Nebelhorn Trophy and the rest is history.

There won't be any JGP for the Russians this season, so it's really not necessary to invite anyone who's supposed to be competing in Seniors to Junior test skates (unless there's no space at Senior test skates).
I hope that's the reason. Sometimes it was funny to see guys like Rukhin, Kovalev and Yablokov among juniors so I'm happy if they decide to go senior. Wish Yablokov lots of health btw
 
Is Rukhin still junior eligible?
Yes, I think he even has two more junior seasons left if he wants to.
There won't be any JGP for the Russians this season, so it's really not necessary to invite anyone who's supposed to be competing in Seniors to Junior test skates (unless there's no space at Senior test skates).
Right, I also fully expect all of the older juniors to compete in senior RGP but that doesn't mean they shouldn't be at test skates.
And let's be real, RusFed will not invite Popov or Rukhin to senior test skates. We can count ourselves lucky if they invite Yablokov (get well soon, most gorgeous of ice cream afficionados! 🙏), Lutfullin and Kovalev.
 
Nobody really knows about the live streams on youtube. We will figure it out next week. Stay tuned. ;)

I expect at least the archived streams to be uploaded here maybe the day after the competition: https://youtube.com/channel/UCR7_eJ_lYr7CedzMmgLIRyA

This youtube channel is basically the sports branch of Channel One for foreign viewers. It is only available outside of Russia, afaik.
thank you! All sorts of stuff on this channel! Most interesting is the backstage stuff at Europeans-and Trusova's foot in a soft cast, and the difficulty she had even getting her foot into the skate. She competed with her foot still fractured. (I had the same injury, and it never ever healed-obviously Trusova just skated through the pain, maybe she still is skating through the pain)
 
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