On the other hand, I really don't understand these people who use an important international event of their own country to demonstrate about their own interests. Haven't they had any sense of patriotics and pride for their own country?!
On the other hand, I really don't understand these people who use an important international event of their own country to demonstrate about their own interests. Haven't they had any sense of patriotics and pride for their own country?!
the country is saying that something that is not your choice (i.e. your sexuality)...
The Russians did not say "displays of homosexuality are now illegal". They said it's not allowed in front of children.
This is still up to debate, buddy!
Imagine a straight person being told they can't kiss/hold hands anywhere that there could be children.
A law that says "Hey, we're not discriminating... you're allowed to be gay, just not in front of children" is a stupid as a country that only allows marriage between a man and a woman proclaiming: "Hey, we're not discriminating... even if you're a gay man, you're still a man so you're still able to marry a woman". Gee, thanks.
As for "still up to debate"... I don't choose to be gay.... do you make the "choice" to be straight, Bluebonnet?
Sorry to say that the fact is that, many people, obviously the majority of the Russian people and the majority of the people in most countries around the world, think that gay propaganda will effect children's behaviors.
I'd like to see your sources that: a) That the majority of people in most countries believe it b) That gay propaganda has been proven to affect children's behaviour?
The Olympic Charter cannot dictate to the citizens of any country.
I don't think I need to provide sources for the first one.
Only a few countries in Europe, Australia, and North America have recognized gay rights like the one you are enjoying. If you like, I could find some studies for the second one when I have time.
How inconvenient. I'm not asking you to point out each country for the first one... I'm asking you to find any poll, survey or report that says people in most other countries think gay propaganda affects children and makes them grow up to be gay. If you can't find one, then stop asserting that most countries think that way.
No, only a few countries recognize gay marriage. But most countries have gay rights. Maybe they don't allow gays to marry, but certainly the vast majority of countries (exceptions obviously being Russia, the Middle East and some African countries) will not imprison or fine gays for holding hands or kissing or waving a rainbow flag.
The truth hurts. ...The truth is they don't even talk about it. It is not even an issue on the table. They have human rights but there is absolutely no definition to say that gay right is a human right. Everyone share the same rights gays and straights with gay population at about 1 - 3% the maxium. And most of them are living quietly. There is no such thing branded as "gay rights" in most countries.:sarcasm:
Exactly... it is human rights... which should be applied to LGBT people, people with disabilities, people of certain races, or any other minority. Gays aren't asking for special treatment.. they're asking to be treated equally.
It is also a grossly incorrect statement to suggest that gays share the same rights as straight people. Especially in Russia, with these laws. I don't have the right to kiss my partner in Russia. I don't have the right to adopt children in Russia (or Russian-born children if I live in Canada). If I have a kid (adopted or biologically my own) in Russia, it can be taken away from me due to my sexual orientation. How is that the "same rights"?
The reason people are living quietly is because their government doesn't care if they hold their partner's hand or kiss their partner in public, nor does their government persecute them if they do. As for 1-3% maximum... firstly, that varies from country to country, and even if it was "only" 1-3% in Russia, that represents millions of Russians who this law affects.
You are free to think so. However, the reason gay right is not on the table for most countries is because the gay people there do not interfere with the lives of what vast majority people know for as long as human being exist. If gay people in any country started to have pride parades, protests, wave rainbow flags at important events of that country or at important public squares, kissing in the public for the purpose of having people see them kissing (not occasionally, but becoming a trend), then gay issue will become an issue on the table. Only by then, you'd see how other countries would react to it. For now, it seems that Russia is the country that has been bothered by this constant disturbing. In fact, the countries who are the most friendly to the gay people are the countries with vast majority people are white, except Russia. I personally believe gay rights is not a human rights issue, as we've already discussed before. Gay people have the human rights like everyone else, no more. And I am no more bigots than you are.:sarcasm:
Eta: I have searched for this topic. I have decided not to bring them to this forum for fearing of bringing more unpleasantness. Sorry.
How inconvenient that you're deciding not to provide all of these unpleasant sources which you've most definitely been able to find. :sarcasm:
Thanks for saving us from the unpleasantness.
As an FYI, gays in most other countries do have pride parades or some peaceful event or demonstration...
I have found them, videos and articles. Stop pressing me and challenging me. If you really want to know, go searching yourself!!!!!:sarcasm: