Should Sasha put the Biellmen spin in her programs?

[skatepixie]

Well, i think they are ugly. I just hate the shape it makes and it just isnt something I like. So, Im goin with no...

 

[Pau-goodle76]

At first, I thought maybe she should, but there is so many of the ladies doing them that I think she should go with something different.

 

[Longhornliz]

I think it might hurt your back... so I say no. But it would be beautiful if she did.

 

[TRAxel]

Not that I care that much, Sasha isn't my cup of tea....but I say go for it,
use what the skate gods gave you girl!

 

[Matt]

Can she??

I voted "I don't know". Sasha definitely has the flexibility for it, and could prolly do one that would put others to absolute shame, but I thought that the whole reason she didn't do one was b/c of the problems she's had with her back. She has done a full Biellmann before: she did one as a MITF at Campbell's in 2004, but that only lasted for that competition. (I think she also did one for "Hernando's Hideaway" but I'm not sure). I really don't think she needs it, though, especially with the Biellmann being so overused by all the women under CoP (Slutskaya....Sebestyen......Timoshenko.....we get it; you can do a Biellmann). If she wants to throw it into one of her programmes to mix up the combination spin, sure; go right ahead, but I don't think it's necessary.

 

[4dogknight]

Irina is doing enough Biellmann's for everyone. No need for anyone else to perform the move or variations there of.

4dk

 

[Piel]

Irina is doing enough Biellmann's for everyone. No need for anyone else to perform the move or variations there of.

4dk

But...with Irina being a top contender for Worlds as well as possibly the Olympics if Sasha can do it better than Irina then it might be worth it. I don't understand why skaters who cannot get full extension of their leg when attempting the Y or I (BC) spin put them in their program. To me it screams "See how flexible I'm NOT".

 

[Matt]

Daria Timoshenko does a Biellmann to both sides that would make Biellman proud. No wrestling, no struggle, no wrenching, and no loss of speed as she pulls her leg up. As Mike Meyers might say, "like bud-dah."

Timoshenko is another one who uses the Biellmann WAY too much....her LP when she won Junior Worlds had four Biellmanns, one in each spin combination

Piel, ITA....if you're going to go ahead with one of these fancy spins where your foot is up by your ear or over your head, make sure that you can in fact GET your foot by your ear or above your head. Sasha already does enough to show us how flexible she is and she uses her flexibility wisely; I don't think she needs a Biellmann to reinforce something we already know

 

[doubleaxelcm]

Is a Beillmann worth a signifigant amount of points in CoP system?

 

[Matt]

Is a Beillmann worth a signifigant amount of points in CoP system?

I don't know what the exact base value assigned to a Biellmann is (if there is one), but it's the easiest way to get your spin/combo spin upgraded to a Level 2 or 3, which is prolly why everybody and their brother is starting to do one

 

[Jhar55]

She already has some beatiful spins, maybe she should work on other areas where she's lacking / needs imporvement.

 

[Peggy]

I think it might hurt your back... so I say no. But it would be beautiful if she did.

I don't want her to hurt her back either but I agree it would be awesome if she did one.

No hands in this picture so I think she is flexable enough.

http://www.usfigureskating.org/even...tent/events/200304/campbellsclassic/pics1.htm

 

[aviva_dawn]

I don't want her to hurt her back either but I agree it would be awesome if she did one.

No hands in this picture so I think she is flexable enough.

http://www.usfigureskating.org/even...tent/events/200304/campbellsclassic/pics1.htm

Peggy:
The cameraperson happened to take that picture when she was finishing a movement ( I'm assuming it was the "beillmann spiral" the she had at Campbells 2003) not of the movement itself.

I vote "no". Sasha has enough flexibility elements in her arsenal. Why add another. ( Bring back the Sasha curl!)

 

[Peggy]

Peggy:
The cameraperson happened to take that picture when she was finishing a movement ( I'm assuming it was the "beillmann spiral" the she had at Campbells 2003) not of the movement itself.
( Bring back the Sasha curl!)

Lucy25 also said the same thing but Chuckm was at Campbells when she did this move and said she was not holding her leg. I wish i had that tape so i could check it myself but it doesn't look like she was holding her leg.

Golden skate Romeo and Juliet thread-comment #12

[QUOTE: Chuckm ] No, I remember her doing this. This was from the Campbell's competition, which I saw live. The upward arms are supposed to be "wings".
TT's "Swan Lake" program underwent many changes after Campbell's.

 

[Mathman]

I, too, would like to see the tape of that move, to see how it came about. That position just defies the laws of physics.

 

[Courtneysk8s]

I am almost positive that that much talked about photo was taken at the end of a catch-foot spiral or some similar pose, she did NOT lift her leg up their and hold it like that without the use of her hands.

 

[Peggy]

I am almost positive that that much talked about photo was taken at the end of a catch-foot spiral or some similar pose, she did NOT lift her leg up their and hold it like that without the use of her hands.

Do You have a tape of Campbells 03?

 

[Courtneysk8s]

Do You have a tape of Campbells 03?

*sob* I wish! My sister taped over it, "American Idol" I think.

 

[patsue1947]

Oh my God NO!! We already have the BC--truly one of the ugliest moves ever devised by a skater. The only Biellman I even half-way liked was the originator of the spin, and even then, I didn't care for it very much. Everyone knows Sasha is flexible-- but she will probably add it because Irina has had great success with the spin this year under cop.

 

[ditzysk8r]

I think the Biellmann would be beautiful on Sasha because her back is so flexible, so she could do it better than anyone else!