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Thanks, now I'm totally confused!It's so interesting you ask this question. Because on YouTube, after Fish in the Sea's video, this one comes up:
https://youtu.be/2vyRqg4j0Ok
Thanks, now I'm totally confused!It's so interesting you ask this question. Because on YouTube, after Fish in the Sea's video, this one comes up:
https://youtu.be/2vyRqg4j0Ok
Thanks! So it means Russian accent is individual for each word?
PS.
What about "Lip-NITS-ka-ya"?
It originates from word "Lipnik", which accentuates LIP-nik, so why not LIP-nits-ka-ya?
It's so interesting you ask this question. Because on YouTube, after Fish in the Sea's video, this one comes up:
https://youtu.be/2vyRqg4j0Ok
Now you can hear at the beginning, the male announcer says Lipnitskaya with the accent on NIts, but immediately following that, the female announcer says it with the accent on LIp. Is it acceptable either way?
Well, then I guess learning to speak with perfect Russian accent is pretty hard - you gotta know every word.Yep, all Russian accents are individual, there is no rule.
Not related to the topic, but I made a video on how to pronounce Russian skaters names. I don't make any explanations, just pronounce their names. Seeing a discussion about Evgenia's name in this thread made me finally finish this video that I've been meaning to make since the end of last season https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G48sk-Vq5jo&feature=youtu.be Hope this video will be helpful to someone. And I hope my voice doesn't sound annoying
I only included single skaters that are going to be in the spotlight next season.
Well, then I guess learning to speak with perfect Russian accent is pretty hard - you gotta know every word.
I've found fun accent fact:
- "pisAt" means 'to write',
- "pIsat" means 'to piss'!
To be honest, I actually agree with you. A lot of the things in the list are insulting. But, since I'm an English speaker, I didn't know that when the offer to translate what was in the videos came through.
i'm not sure if Tuktamysheva pronunciation is correct, i used to think that accent should be on MYSH, and also seems like this is the way russian commentators pronunciate it (i'm russian btw).
Personally, and please don't take this the wrong way, CaroLiza_fan, I think the posting of this list is completely and utterly inappropriate.
These aren't nicknames. Nicknames are given in affection, in love, in endearment, in good humour. These are - the best word I can think of for many of them is slurs, insults, demeaning labels. And many of them are about minor children.
thx, that makes it clear! (she definitely makes an accent on TA)It's kind of noisy where I am right now, so I can't hear it super clearly, but Sabinfire has a video of Liza saying her name: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=drAVpXjHTH8
She says Tuk-TA-my-she-va, just like Fish in their video.It's kind of noisy where I am right now, so I can't hear it super clearly, but Sabinfire has a video of Liza saying her name: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=drAVpXjHTH8
She says Tuk-TA-my-she-va, just like Fish in their video.
I am not sure if i can see any affection, love, endearment and humor in Pogo, Havi, Zagi, Shibs, Yuzu and so on. People just got first four letter of their names cut off. There is nothing but lazyness and ignorance.
Laziness and ignorance? What the heck are you talking about?
The Shibutanis call themselves the Shibs, for example.
Are you calling Maia and Alex lazy and ignorant?
I had been talking about the community. No matter how do they call themself, there is no reason for fandom to stick with the simplest possible solution and not a sign of love, affection and humor either.
You are missing the point.
If it is acceptable for individuals to call themselves by abbreviated forms of their own names, why is it inherently lazy and/or ignorant for a third party from the "community" to use abbreviated forms?
There is no reason for fandom not to use a simple abbreviation -- as just one of the multiple possible ways that nicknames can and do originate.
[Unless a particular skater has made it known that s/he does not like a certain abbreviation. Or unless a certain abbreviation resembles a word that has offensive connotations.]
At least in the U.S., shortening a name often is an expression of endearment (not limited to skater names, by any stretch).
That comment was as funny and proper as her 2017 Worlds performance. :sarcasm:
Her former rink-partner Julia was in pain and despair, while she was making jokes about her in front of cameras, only because she didn't like the media attention being directed at somebody else. "Why do you ask about her? I won! Me, me, me!"
That was the day I've lost much of my respect to Anna. :scowl:
Lol.So what can be a creative approach? Let's talk about Pogo. I think she wasn't "cut" properly. She is not POGOrilaya, she is poGORilaya. And "GOR" means "to burn". The whole thing could be translated as "someone whose house had been burned", or some one who had burned down. And here we can see a story. She has a flame in her name and in her art and in her fate. Sometimes she is burned down, but then Phoenix rises and Firebird shines in the sky. But if the flame cut from her name and from her heart, the only thing left is a cold ice of Helsinky and empty eyes of the Ice Queen entering the rink. Why do we destroing magic with our own hands?