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I didn't hear either Ashley or Gracie making excuses for their mistakes. Will they be able to right the ship for the free skate? We don't know, but one thing we can be pretty sure of is that if they don't move up, it won't be for lack of trying.
 
The USFSA need to step in and tell Polina her flip is not correct and suggest she replace it until its fixed. Confidence is a good thing but blind denial, which Polina seems to have, is another and they need to say something. I really hope they have

I can't imagine the meltdowns that would occur if the 3 spots comes down to Polina's incorrect flip :shocked:
 
I didn't hear either Ashley or Gracie making excuses for their mistakes. Will they be able to right the ship for the free skate? We don't know, but one thing we can be pretty sure of is that if they don't move up, it won't be for lack of trying.

I don't think Gracie made any excuses but from what I have been reading she seems to be giving her usual "everything's fine and okay" statements that everyone finds annoying :laugh:

On the other hand she does seem a bit delusional if the quote attributed to her in the ladies SP thread is true. She said something like she wasn't spooked out about skating after seeing Liza's score because in the past she got close to that mark without a 3A. She must have mistaken 77 for 67 because she never got near 77 in the SP so it was a pretty stupid remark :laugh:
 
I can't imagine the meltdowns that would occur if the 3 spots comes down to Polina's incorrect flip :shocked:

It would seem odd to me to come down on her for that flip (when she's the only one to actually show up at this competition, at least so far) and ignore the eggs laid by Gold and Wagner, the freaking National Champ.

Whatever...
 
I don't think Gracie made any excuses but from what I have been reading she seems to be giving her usual "everything's fine and okay" statements that everyone finds annoying :laugh:

On the other hand she does seem a bit delusional if the quote attributed to her in the ladies SP thread is true. She said something like she wasn't spooked out about skating after seeing Liza's score because in the past she got close to that mark without a 3A. She must have mistaken 77 for 67 because she never got near 77 in the SP so it was a pretty stupid remark :laugh:

Yes her PB is just a hair over 70 and in Olympics LaLa land at that
 
It would seem odd to me to come down on her for that flip (when she's the only one to actually show up at this competition, at least so far) and ignore the eggs laid by Gold and Wagner, the freaking National Champ.

Whatever...

The difference is Polina is making a conscience choice to do something stupid. The others just made stupid mistakes, not stupid decisions.
 
What does that have to do with anything? It still shouldn't come down to Polina's flip.

It also should not come down to one person either, but if we are going to pick one, I picking the one that used poor judgment. She is the one that could have made a different choice that would likely have made a difference. If nerves are going to get Gracie and Ashley, they are just as likely to strike if they did a 3T+3T. Polina knows she gets dinged for her flip, she just refuses to change.
 
This is why skating needs a Marta Karolyi. She would tell Polina to change the jump and, if Polina knew what was good for her, she would. Marta doesn't mess around.
 
Well I guess it was just not meant to be with that draw Ashley had, and Gracie skating after Liza. That's competition. I can't believe Polina is our top competitor. I hope Polina can move up a couple of spots. Maybe Gracie or Ashley can do enough to keep the three spots.
I think starting next year Gracie needs to do like Liza did, compete, compete, compete. The only way to learn to compete is to keep putting yourself out there.
 
It also should not come down to one person either, but if we are going to pick one, I picking the one that used poor judgment. She is the one that could have made a different choice that would likely have made a difference. If nerves are going to get Gracie and Ashley, they are just as likely to strike if they did a 3T+3T. Polina knows she gets dinged for her flip, she just refuses to change.

Well that makes no sense. If either Gracie or Ashley had skated up to their ability it would not have matter if Polina did the loop because they would have leap-frogged over her and nothing less than a 3A would have gotten her in that final group. So no, the others don't get a pass because of nerves.
 
This is why skating needs a Marta Karolyi. She would tell Polina to change the jump and, if Polina knew what was good for her, she would. Marta doesn't mess around.

The monthly camps have definitely created stronger athletes and competitive routines. A Marta type would definitely be a good thing for the program.
 
Well that makes no sense. If either Gracie or Ashley had skated up to their ability it would not have matter if Polina did the loop because they would have leap-frogged over her and nothing less than a 3A would have gotten her in that final group. So no, the others don't get a pass because of nerves.

To my knowledge they did not plan to screw up ahead of time, Polina did.
 
I want to laugh and cry when I think about this, but I remember Sasha Cohen being criticized roundly long ago for failing to deliver cleanly. As someone who roots for the US to do well, what I wouldn't give to have someone like Sasha nowadays.

As a huge Sasha fan I always felt her accomplishments got no just recognition in her own country which is odd. I was looking through the archives recently and came across this thread of 2006 about Sasha titled 'How will history view Sasha'

http://www.goldenskate.com/forum/showthread.php?12974-How-will-history-view-Sasha/page7

One post summed the general mood in the following: ''10 years later, we can dig this up and then we'll know for sure. Yawn :sheesh:''

Funny to read this now isn't? One thing for sure nobody 9 years ago could have imagined that Sasha would still be the last American to have won Olympic medal and the World medal (along with Kimmie of course)...

Good luck to Gracie, Ashley & Polina for tomorrow!!! Hope they skate their best.
 
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Yes, funny to look back. But I think the first few posts more or less hit the mark.

Since then, the U.S. women either haven't been good enough, or they had the capability of being good enough and just choked under pressure. Frankly if the U.S. women can't recover, we don't deserve that 3rd spot anyway. They brought it on themselves.
 
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