What Exactly is the Value of a Jump with a -1 Wrong Edge Takeoff?

[Joesitz (RIP)]

In your world and hierarchy of values, that is true. In the world of judged figure skating, there are a number of factors that determine how a jump is classified, and take-off edge isn't the determining factor. As a result, when these definitions are breached, there is a specified penalty, not a reclassification.

That's my point when I said the defenders of the Flutz are tied to the current thinking of the ISU . I feel I can speak out and defend Alois Lutz in a Forum because I think that's what a Forum is all about. I have no power to change the status quo but I believe it's wrong and I'll stand by that.

Joe

 

[Joesitz (RIP)]

[UOTE] perhaps we should also define the lutz and flip as the same jump. Period, and cease to kvetch about the takeoff.[/QUOTE]
Why not? The Flutzers can breathe a side of relief.

The Toe Loop is a Loop Jump with a take off.
The Flip is a Salchow with a take off.

And the Lutz stands still, as we say in the nursery rhyme.

Joe

 

[Mathman]

Joe, your position might be in the minority, but it is logically unassailable. :yes: