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Who Prefers Last Season's Miki Ando?

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I think Miki Ando is a fantastic skater, and has made great improvement technically this year (I love that T.Toe-d.lp-d.lp combo). However, I feel like her programs this year are just above average. They have some exciting moments, great footwork, but overall it is more a technical zest program, closer to the kind of style that she was performing 2-3 years ago.

I don't know, but I seem to perfer the artistic transformation that Miki had last year. Her SP and FP were absolutely beautiful, and I thought she connected to the music and audience better, and she really proved that she can be a musical skater. This season, it's seems like the programs were catered so that she can concentrate on her jumps. Perhaps it's a taste of style, but for some reason, I enjoyed all of Miki's performances last season, flawed or perfect. While this season, the I think she's ethier OK when she doesn't perform her best, or just merely enjoyable when she's on fire.
 
I think this season for Miki was all about getting her confidence back. Her programs were fine, but not ones I will probably remember much about a few years from now. She skated them the best at Skate America, IMO, and I'm just so happy she was able to skate them well enough at Worlds to win.
Hopefully next season will be one where she can stretch a bit choreographically. And I suspect (or hope, at least) that she will be able to carry over some of that confidence she gained this year.
 
I LOVED her SP last year, probably my favorite program from her. This year's programs were powerful, but they didn't capture the same gracefulness.

Seems to me like Miki is an early-season skater...CoR was her only good competition in the 05-06 season, and this season her best skating was definitely at Skate America.
 
Shizuka was 24 yrs old in Turino. Miki will be 22 in Vancouver 2010. I believe she will be on the podium with Mao when the FS is completed.
 
I thought last season was the season she went through tremendous artistic growth for the first time, but her technical skills dropped well down from their level of the previous 2 seasons. This season she has a great balance of both and is better then ever IMO. I prefer this years Miki Ando. When she skates like she did at Skate America, Worlds, or just about any short program she has done this season, she has never looked better IMHO.
 
One of these days I'll look at her old programs and think about your question. All I can say for now is that I think she's fantastic now. I pray her next season's programs are as fiery and gorgeous as these two, with equally strong music.
 
I thought last season was the season she went through tremendous artistic growth for the first time, but her technical skills dropped well down from their level of the previous 2 seasons. This season she has a great balance of both and is better then ever IMO. I prefer this years Miki Ando. When she skates like she did at Skate America, Worlds, or just about any short program she has done this season, she has never looked better IMHO.

slutskayafan, sorry for getting off topic, but it sounds to me that the same situation occurred to Kimmie this year. I think that she worked on being more musical in her presentation and doing more complicated moves in her choreography. All that however has seemed to hurt her technical progress. She had more trouble with her 3-3 than before. I hope she gets back on track for next season.
 
I think that this year and last year where both great packages for her, i probably like these a little more because she skated them cleanly and they seem to suit her well. Miki deffinelty peaks early in the season, and she "performed" them more at Skate America.
 
slutskayafan, sorry for getting off topic, but it sounds to me that the same situation occurred to Kimmie this year. I think that she worked on being more musical in her presentation and doing more complicated moves in her choreography. All that however has seemed to hurt her technical progress. She had more trouble with her 3-3 than before. I hope she gets back on track for next season.

I agree with that. I do think Kimmie has worked very hard on more making her choreography more complex, and improving her interpretation of music. It has cost her in the technical portion of her skating however, which has not been as reliable as last season. Maybe the two will come together for his next season though.
 
I loved Miki's programs last season (at CoR), but I think that was mostly because the music and choreography were so good. David Wilson did a great job with both of Miki's programs, and I was always a bit disappointed that she never skated them to their full potential.

This season I love her SP - a great choice of music for her. Sadly, her LP is a choreographic disaster - gloomy music, empty choreo and step sequence that, while impressive, does not go with the music at all. I kept wishing she would return to her old LP - but, perhaps, she was not willing to do so as she had bad memories of it from Torino.

I think that it would be great if she would go to Wilson for a new LP for the upcoming season. Morozov does nice SP's, but his LP's always seem a bit too empty for me (I thought the same about Takahashi's LP at the beginning of the season, though later he skated it with such a fire that I did not mind the emptiness).
 
I thought last season was the season she went through tremendous artistic growth for the first time, but her technical skills dropped well down from their level of the previous 2 seasons. This season she has a great balance of both and is better then ever IMO. I prefer this years Miki Ando. When she skates like she did at Skate America, Worlds, or just about any short program she has done this season, she has never looked better IMHO.
ITA (Something must be wrong - I'm agreeing wholeheartedly with slutskayafan ;) )
 
I think Miki Ando is a fantastic skater, and has made great improvement technically this year (I love that T.Toe-d.lp-d.lp combo). However, I feel like her programs this year are just above average. They have some exciting moments, great footwork, but overall it is more a technical zest program, closer to the kind of style that she was performing 2-3 years ago.

I don't know, but I seem to perfer the artistic transformation that Miki had last year. Her SP and FP were absolutely beautiful, and I thought she connected to the music and audience better, and she really proved that she can be a musical skater. This season, it's seems like the programs were catered so that she can concentrate on her jumps. Perhaps it's a taste of style, but for some reason, I enjoyed all of Miki's performances last season, flawed or perfect. While this season, the I think she's ethier OK when she doesn't perform her best, or just merely enjoyable when she's on fire.


I agree.

Miki's programs last year had subtle sophistication and elegance. Although she herself might have yet to attain the maturity to skate to such bittersweet music and delicate choreography, they were really beautiful packages. I am sorry that she abandoned her familiar My Funny Valentine and switched to Madam Butterfly at the last minute before the Olympics, which resulted in a disastrous performance both artistically and technically.

I thought her SP this year pretty good. The heavier music matched her powerful style better. It also suited her voluptuous femininity. She did a fairly good job in expressing the slow part.

At the same time, the heavier music also seemed to emphasize the roughness in her movements, which was revealing in her LP. Because Mendelssohn is one of the most authentic masterpieces among violin concertos, it requires classy sophistication to live up to. But her lack of training in ballet crucially affected the result. Her lean posture, stiff shoulders and arms, and rough movements stood out in this kind of classical music. Although she used to have a better posture and softer arms before, they somehow appeared to have become worse (possibly because of injuries?).

These problems were less pronounced in her SP where she skated to more exotic music. She also bloomed happily when she skated to pop music, “I Believe,” at Gala. From her previous gala performances, she was very attractive when she skated to a more athletic music, “Mickey!” But a classical masterpiece does not seem to be too good for her.

I also agree that her LP this year was choreographically emptier and more simplistic than the other programs that she had had in the last couple of seasons.

But looking back the last season, she unfortunately had too many falls to let the audience appreciate the beautiful choreography. She also had a lack of stamina, shaky edges, and worse spirals. At the Olympics, she had a fall after a fall. So perhaps this year’s LP might be just the best she could have done to come back as a top skater. It was simply brilliant that she had regained her technical strengths and won the title. I don’t think that this year’s performance was her full potential or the kind of performance that everyone acknowledges as the best. But now that she has had greater motivation and newer coaches, I believe that she would transform into a more beautiful dancer in next seasons.
 
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I agree. Her SP this year is good, but her LP is totally empty and forgettable. Jumps and speed she has, but i dont' think she'll EVER transform into a dancer.
 
What on earth is to prefer about last seasons Miki Ando? Is it preferable to come 15th at the Olympics, won by your countrywomen with only 5 triples, or to win Worlds in a field of top women unleashing an array of jumps? Is this a joke question or something.
 
Actually, I prefer last years Ando. I know that she wasnt all "there" with the jumps and all, but it was a pleasure to watch her. I felt as if she connected with the music a lot more than she has in the past (and present). Her programs were beautiful last year. If she could connect with the music more just like last year, she'd be a full package IMO.
 
I think Miki was actually at her best during worlds. I didn't like her skating very much last year, except for her short program.
 
It's kind of hard to assess any kind of "artistic improvement" Miki may have made last season, given that every time I saw her, she (a) looked like she would rather be having a root canal, and (b) kept running into the wall during her programs. As Dick Button has said on a few occasions, if the technical TOTALLY falls apart, then the artistry goes out the window as well. (I don't necessarily agree with this to the extent he does, but I understand his point.)

But --

WHAT A DIFFERENCE A YEAR MAKES!!
 
It's kind of hard to assess any kind of "artistic improvement" Miki may have made last season,

Her choreography was surely beautiful. Although it may be hard to tell how much credit she herself could get out of it, her arms looked softer and her movements looked less rough than this year.

But yes, her technical side improved so much. Nobody imagined that she would become the World Champ after seeing the olympics.
 
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