Why are there only 6 basic jumps?

[Elsie]

I didn't expect this thread to attract so much attention as it's only my first ever thread, and I hadn't even posted on this forum before. The answer to my original question also seems to be a bit more complicated than I thought. Unless it's me who is complicating things?

I will have a look at the Edges and Turns thread then by gkelly.

 

[Tonichelle]

here is Josée Chouinard doing a triple toe walley...

under 6.0 we would see more attempt at creative jumping passes... but now, this jump has no assigned value does it? so nobody would do it...

now.. i am not an expert... so if this is a normal jump... blame the commentators

I miss Josee!

 

[Ic3Rabbit]

This is my very first post ever on this forum and I'm not a skater myself, but I would like to know why there are only six basic jumps: salchow, loop, toe-loop, flip, lutz and axel.

I understand that it has something to do with take-off edges and such, but wouldn't there be any room for more jumps, perhaps of a totally different kind? I remember the back-flip (made famous by Surya Bonaly) but that one was banned because it's considered too dangerous.

I can see how skaters are trying to make the existing jumps more complicated by adding extra revolutions, tanos and rippons. But what about other possible jumps (it doesn't even have to be jumps per se)?

It would be so exciting if figure skating also evolved in totally different ways instead of simply perfecting what's already there.

Because the madness had to end somewhere.

 

[brens78]

I'd love to see a 3A 3A combo but wouldn't that require a half jump in between?

 

[Blades of Passion]

Would definitely love to see these unusual moves given a worthwhile point value in the scoring system. Wouldn't be hard to update the rules to allow for them. Perhaps someday...

 

[icetigger]

I'd love to see a 3A 3A combo but wouldn't that require a half jump in between?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jhyvnvl58bg

probably the closest you'll get!

 

[gmyers]

I like the bonaly backflip jump

 

[gkelly]

1.5 toe loop
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-hY5l6exQYw&t=1m30s
“half” inside axel (1 revolution forward to forward)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NejdonImvKg&t=5m12s

 

[Leonardo]

What about jump combinations? Has the sport maxed out there as well? For instance, would it be possible to jump a quad as a second jump in a combo? Probably not. Or maybe some kind of transitional element between two jumps that is not currently being performed. The only one I can think of that is common, is the Euler (half loop).

Shoma can do 2a-4t and a 3a-4t
2a-4t https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YTvflEKwZ_Q
3a-4t at 01:50 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-mtRcGSxpic