Will you be happy if the Gold Medalists in Turin are all Russian?
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I just made an assumption that "if given the skates are perfect" was a given and didn't have to be stated in the poll. Sorry for not being too careful with my word choice.
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Piel said:
Fair enough but I dont find Liang being that much of a "pretty skater" to be honest, some of her positions arent all that nice, just my opinion. Csizney and Kwan I can see, and to a lesser extent Fumie although she does have a crooked back while stroking herself I find.
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The only way that I would be happy is if they all DESERVED them. As we know from the past, that isn't always the case. JMHO.
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Just to be fair the same could be said about North Americans.
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I, like most here, just want the winners to be decidedly the best - no foul judging, holding up, no undercurrents of politiking. I also would like it to be a really close race, unlikely as it is......close SP scores, so LP is a real fight for the Gold.
As far as a Russian sweep, if it is deserved I have no problem with it. But if it is, I think it will have a negative impact on FS around the globe, especially if others give especially great LP's but can't overcome the SP lead space.
If you think back over the last 3-4 O's, perhaps with the exception of Paul Wylie, most people don't remember the other performances that generated the silver & bronze medals. The media will have a field day with an all Russian sweep.....
And I don't want a repeat of a one time flash-in-the-pan, a la Lipinski, Hughes.
As far as a Russian sweep, if it is deserved I have no problem with it. But if it is, I think it will have a negative impact on FS around the globe, especially if others give especially great LP's but can't overcome the SP lead space.
If you think back over the last 3-4 O's, perhaps with the exception of Paul Wylie, most people don't remember the other performances that generated the silver & bronze medals. The media will have a field day with an all Russian sweep.....
And I don't want a repeat of a one time flash-in-the-pan, a la Lipinski, Hughes.
how they skate
I'd be happy if they are the best skaters in that week. COP is an improvement but there are some kinks to work out. Irina seems to be getting some elevated scores. Tech seems ok but just because you are born with a body that can do a Bielman is no reason to win a gold medal in skating. I'm not so sure she actually does a true Bielman anyway. Any old tapes of Denise laying around? Doesn't the foot have to be above your head & you hold the skate with both hands? I thinks she's cheating & getting away with it.
The general public in the US is turned off on skating after SLC. If they see another unfair skating medal, we'll be watching all our skating on mediazone.com
I'd be happy if they are the best skaters in that week. COP is an improvement but there are some kinks to work out. Irina seems to be getting some elevated scores. Tech seems ok but just because you are born with a body that can do a Bielman is no reason to win a gold medal in skating. I'm not so sure she actually does a true Bielman anyway. Any old tapes of Denise laying around? Doesn't the foot have to be above your head & you hold the skate with both hands? I thinks she's cheating & getting away with it.
The general public in the US is turned off on skating after SLC. If they see another unfair skating medal, we'll be watching all our skating on mediazone.com
Not to change the subject.....
I hope I'm not overstepping and also sounding too naive, but from the sounds of the different posts to this topic on the new judging system, it sounds as if the judging is no longer fair and square and done on the performance of the skaters. That saddens me, because my children are just now starting into the LTS program and will probably eventually compete. I very much dislike the new judging system, and I have only had a few conversations with people about it. I think it's boring to watch the competitions on TV, because everyone's program looks the same.
As for the topic at hand, it's always been my belief that the best skaters should win based on their performance not on their home country or on the "favorites". Whoever wins, I just hope it's based on this. LOL
I hope I'm not overstepping and also sounding too naive, but from the sounds of the different posts to this topic on the new judging system, it sounds as if the judging is no longer fair and square and done on the performance of the skaters. That saddens me, because my children are just now starting into the LTS program and will probably eventually compete. I very much dislike the new judging system, and I have only had a few conversations with people about it. I think it's boring to watch the competitions on TV, because everyone's program looks the same.
As for the topic at hand, it's always been my belief that the best skaters should win based on their performance not on their home country or on the "favorites". Whoever wins, I just hope it's based on this. LOL
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Hi Plhskate. Welcome to Golden Skate and thanks for posting.
About the New Judging System, frankly I do not see any reason to think that it will be either more or less fair than the old. The judges are the same people that they always have been. Most of them, I believe, do a creditable job, with a few bad apples here and there.
About the effect of the NJS on the creativity of programs, I think we will have to wait and see how it plays out in the long run. So far, I agree that ladies skating has become less interesting. But on the men's side there are people like Sandhu and Buttle who seem to be able to come up with creative choreography and still rack up the points.
IMO pairs is affected the most. We seem to be seeing more and more difficult (and dangerous!) moves just for the sake of difficulty, whether they add anything of substance to the program or not.
JMO.
Mathman
About the New Judging System, frankly I do not see any reason to think that it will be either more or less fair than the old. The judges are the same people that they always have been. Most of them, I believe, do a creditable job, with a few bad apples here and there.
About the effect of the NJS on the creativity of programs, I think we will have to wait and see how it plays out in the long run. So far, I agree that ladies skating has become less interesting. But on the men's side there are people like Sandhu and Buttle who seem to be able to come up with creative choreography and still rack up the points.
IMO pairs is affected the most. We seem to be seeing more and more difficult (and dangerous!) moves just for the sake of difficulty, whether they add anything of substance to the program or not.
JMO.
Mathman
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I wouldn't care if they were all Argentinians if they deserved it. I'm one of those fans who appreciate perfect judging on THAT NIGHT.
Joe
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If they deserve it, I won't cry foul. But that doesn't mean I'm going to be happy about it.
I'd be ok with Plushenko and N/K winning but I wouldn't be happy with Slutskaya or T/M winning since I don't enjoy their skating.
I'd be ok with Plushenko and N/K winning but I wouldn't be happy with Slutskaya or T/M winning since I don't enjoy their skating.
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Russian are the best!!! They should get gold medals!!! 
