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Paris Shootings and Explosions

Ophelia

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Was in Paris weeks ago, and I was nervous at one point. There are a few shady characters boarding the train and they had duffle bags and looking quite "terroristy" It's a shame because I've always loved Paris, but every time I go back, I never feel 100% safe anymore.

Um...what is this supposed to mean? I hope you don't mean you saw some Middle Eastern looking people.
 

alain06fr

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Well, I have a complete different opinion about this. I am French and I actually think that TEB should continue for several reasons. First, I wouldn't like the terrorists to think one second they managed to create a chaos in the whole country. Second, the athletes who prepared this major international event for months deserve to compete til the end. Third, France will organize the European Football Championship in June hence the country must be prepared in case of such horror. Life must go on everywhere in France hence TEB must go on, this is our best answer to those terrorists.
 

TheGrandSophy

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Saw on Twitter that taxis are taking people home free of charge. Lots of places offering shelter for people stranded too.
 

Crossover

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This is terrible. Who is doing this attacks?
 
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Would it be possible to award final placements based on the results of the completed short program, and cancel the free skate?

Public safety is paramount, of course -- the safety of the skaters as well as everyone else involved in the event + the safety of spectators.

That said, if the free skates and FD are canceled in the interest of safety (and I do believe safety is paramount), then what the ISU would do with the SP and SD scores/results will be a very tricky question, IMO.
Because TEB is part of the GP series, and TEB results contribute to determination of who qualifies for the GPF, it would be very tricky to be as fair as possible both to the TEB competitors and non-TEB competitors.
Another question would be what would be fair in terms of awarding points from TEB SPs and SD for ISU World Standings and ISU Season's World Rankings.

But again, the safety issue is far more important than sorting out any complications related to ISU results.
 

mrrice

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Um...what is this supposed to mean? I hope you don't mean you saw some Middle Eastern looking people.

Don't take offense Lilahozi. I remember what it was like in the here in US after 9/11. No one would board a plane without looking over their shoulder at anyone who wasn't white as snow or jet black. That included everyone who was Hispanic or people like my half sister who is half black and half white. People are reacting out of fear and worry and may say things that don't make sense. Please go easy on them. :)
 

silverfoxes

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Does the ISU have provisions in place for an event that is disrupted for whatever reason? Has anything similar ever happened before?

If the competition was in Paris, canceling it would seem like a given, but this is a little trickier. These things have unfortunately become a fact of life...mass shootings in the US as well. I am sure everyone there is a bit shaken up, but life must go on. I don't suppose they could delay the free skates until Sunday and cancel the gala?
 

Ophelia

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Well, I have a complete different opinion about this. I am French and I actually think that TEB should continue for several reasons. First, I wouldn't like the terrorists to think one second they managed to create a chaos in the whole country. Second, the athletes who prepared this major international event for months deserve to compete til the end. Third, France will organize the European Football Championship in June hence the country must be prepared in case of such horror. Life must go on everywhere in France hence TEB must go on, this is our best answer to those terrorists.

Safety > pride
 

TheGrandSophy

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Well, I have a complete different opinion about this. I am French and I actually think that TEB should continue for several reasons. First, I wouldn't like the terrorists to think one second they managed to create a chaos in the whole country. Second, the athletes who prepared this major international event for months deserve to compete til the end. Third, France will organize the European Football Championship in June hence the country must be prepared in case of such horror. Life must go on everywhere in France hence TEB must go on, this is our best answer to those terrorists.

I think it is likely it will happen for that reason. They will have to have even more stringent security if it goes ahead though.
 

Pamigena

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Every time I forget for about five minutes how effed up this world really is, another bunch of psychopaths comes around to remind me of just that. .....this is so sick. And I absolutely hate how commentators say that it was "foreseeable" that France would once again be targeted by attacks like that. I need to move to some other planet where it's not effing normal that we wait for something like this to happen every day!
 

TheGrandSophy

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Does the ISU have provisions in place for an event that is disrupted for whatever reason? Has anything similar ever happened before?

If the competition was in Paris, canceling it would seem like a given, but this is a little trickier. These things have unfortunately become a fact of life...mass shootings in the US as well. I am sure everyone there is a bit shaken up, but life must go on. I don't suppose they could delay the free skates until Sunday and cancel the gala?

I did wonder if that might be possible too.
 

euroskate

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Tv just Report that the main target was the soccer stadium where france was playing against germany. Security was good enough that terrorists did not make it into the stadium so they blew up in the streets before. Players are still kept inside because they dont know if there are still Bombs out there
 

Sydney Rose

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Does the ISU have provisions in place for an event that is disrupted for whatever reason? Has anything similar ever happened before?

If the competition was in Paris, canceling it would seem like a given, but this is a little trickier. These things have unfortunately become a fact of life...mass shootings in the US as well. I am sure everyone there is a bit shaken up, but life must go on. I don't suppose they could delay the free skates until Sunday and cancel the gala?

This is way more serious than the mass shootings that have happened in the US. We don't even know yet just how many people have died or been injured.
 

OS

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This is terrible. Who are doing this attack?

Some witnesses report hearing gunmen shouting allah is great. Reported on the bbc... although nothing has been confirmed yet. Seems alot of reports on social media
 

StitchMonkey

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Does the ISU have provisions in place for an event that is disrupted for whatever reason? Has anything similar ever happened before?

If the competition was in Paris, canceling it would seem like a given, but this is a little trickier. These things have unfortunately become a fact of life...mass shootings in the US as well. I am sure everyone there is a bit shaken up, but life must go on. I don't suppose they could delay the free skates until Sunday and cancel the gala?

Well the World Championships were canceled all together the year the plane carrying Team USA crashed. That is the first that pops to mind for something like this. But that was a very different time and this is a very different competition.

I think delaying to Sunday might be a reasonable compromise. Most people would still be around and able to participate, it gives people time to rest and keep things as sane as possible.

but as alain06fr said - life must go on. I don't think canceling it is the right thing to do.


EDIT: Sabena Flight 548 if anyone is interested.
 
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Pamigena

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Some witnesses report hearing gunmen shouting allah is great. Reported on the bbc... although nothing has been confirmed yet. Seems alot of reports on social media
German media reported that one of them allegedly yelled "this is for Syria"
 

TheGrandSophy

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We do have to remember that advice will probably be provided by the Governmental authorities as to the level of threat and the best course of action for public events. Whatever decision is made will very much depend on intelligence.
 

OS

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Paris has not been in curfew since 1944
 
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