There's nothing wrong with being curious; I'm curious about a lot of stuff that has been declared off-limits in this forum (such as speculation on skaters' romantic status). The issue is "appropriate or not": I happen to think that off-ice subjects belong in the "or not" category when they involve the skaters' private issues, especially concerning money. I think we should follow the same guidelines that we do with romance/sexuality: we don't speculate/criticize/advise UNLESS the skater has publicly brought up the issue, as Ashley did when she talked about leaving her parents' home and supporting herself.
Wondering about why Nagasu continues?
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There's nothing wrong with being curious; I'm curious about a lot of stuff that has been declared off-limits in this forum (such as speculation on skaters' romantic status). The issue is "appropriate or not": I happen to think that off-ice subjects belong in the "or not" category when they involve the skaters' private issues, especially concerning money. I think we should follow the same guidelines that we do with romance/sexuality: we don't speculate/criticize/advise UNLESS the skater has publicly brought up the issue, as Ashley did when she talked about leaving her parents' home and supporting herself.
I wish Mirai would change her FS to something else. The current one is just self-defeating and reeks of eating crow. Ugh! She was near the bottom of the standings when she skated it at SC, and it had to be a bitter pill to hear those words sung. No wonder her best effort just wasn't there.
Maybe she should skate to S.O.S. The board will explode reading into things.
Even if Mirai continues to be in the 4-10 group, it still help her in the long run. Look at Rockne Brubaker, Bryce Davidson, Stephania Berton, etc... at skate canada. If Mirai decided to become a coach, she'd be very popular.
Mirai thanks you for your concern, but she's fine.
Even if Mirai continues to be in the 4-10 group, it still help her in the long run. Look at Rockne Brubaker, Bryce Davidson, Stephania Berton, etc... at skate canada. If Mirai decided to become a coach, she'd be very popular.
Mirai thanks you for your concern, but she's fine.
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Gracie and Evgenia perhaps. Ashley's lutz edge was called ! in all her international events last season (Skate Canada, NHK, Grand Prix final, Worlds). As it rightfully should be.
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Aside from skating in shows, I don't foresee Mirai being heavily involved with skating after she retires. Based on what little we get to see as fans, I don't think she enjoys the competitive atmosphere of these events and it seems that it would be equally stressful (or even more so) to attend as a coach. Besides, she is in school studying a subject that will take her in a completely different direction.
No. No. No. I LOVE her FS.
What does she study? It is always interesting to hear what else interests skaters besides skating.
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IIRC someone posted that she is studying Int'l Business.
I see this type of thread pop up every season. On the bright side, it does show a lot of fans still care about Mirai. I know Fumie Suguri is used as a example for skaters to not continue on forever, but I think she's an exception to the norm. She competed for so long without a set goal. I mean props to her for doing what she liked for as long as possible. However, I don't recall any current skaters saying they will continue for as long as physically possible or set no deadline. Mao has more or less stated 2018 would be her last season, whether or not she goes to the Olympics. Mirai is still relatively young; Ashley is older than she is, so it's not impossible for her to have a comeback. In her case, I do think it's still early to call it quits.
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Ah you're right. I'm not sure why I thought it was being overlooked for Ashley. Accurate calling is sure to benefit skaters like Courtney, who has almost never has issues with wrong-edge takeoffs or <. I'm doubtful that we'll see such calling at Nationals because the USFSA will certainly want to send Ashley and Gracie to worlds with astronomically high scores.
I thought the first Flip and the Salchow looked roated.. Not saying it would helped a lot point wise as all her other landings looked very tight here..
3F/3t <
3Z !
3S
2A/2T/2T
3L <<
3F <
2A/2T (dont remember if she actually added a 2T to her last 2A?)
I believe there will be a completely different Mirai showing up in Japan.. For sure, it seems like she will always be prone to UR some of her jumps but by Nationals, they tend to look better than in the beginning of the season..
Ashley is 25 and Mirai is 23---not that big an age difference, at least relative to where they are in figure skating. At 23, Mirai is probably not going to develop technically any further than where she is right now. The best she can do is to hone away the rough edges, which is the URs and the double-footing, develop more speed, and work hard on showing more expression. If Mirai can do that, she certainly can come back from her SC debacle.
SC was rough for lots of skaters, especially the Americans (Chock/Bates excepted).
SC was rough for lots of skaters, especially the Americans (Chock/Bates excepted).
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Also, Ashley made her big breakthrough in 2012, winning Nationals and 4CC with 4th place at Worlds. She was 20. Every since, she has consistently medaled at almost every GP/GPF event, winning five. WSM was a big breakthrough but it was the culmination of 5 strong seasons. If Mirai does make a comeback, her career trajectory will look nothing like Ashley's.
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Yep, nationals tends to ignore edge calls on most skaters. However, last year both Ashley and Gracie scored higher at Worlds than either did at Nationals. Deservedly so, because they both had much better programs at Worlds. It's going to be interesting to see how the rest of the season goes. Mirai has shown us clean triple axles in practice. If she ever pulls one off successfully in competition that could be a game changer. And Mariah Bell is looking strong this season. I hope US nationals gives everyone a fair shake.
The post season teams will be interesting. As Mirai is testament to, 4th does not mean you don't get to go to the big championship events. Ashley usually passes on Four Continents. There's room for more than just the top 3 in the second half of the season, and I have a feeling we'll be seeing Mirai very much in the mix.
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This set of lyrics omits a line that really stands out, indeed jumps out, in Mirai's program: The judges will decide.
David or others surely must have talked to Mirai about how to handle this line when she's not skating her best. But to me, whatever the strategy is isn't working. This music just gives off a totally wrong vibe for me, whether she's skating the program well or not. But we all have different taste in music and how literal or how subtle we like programs to be. Theoretically it's possible Mirai could make this work even when she's not skating her best, but expression isn't her forte, so it all seems like an enormous gamble.
Well, I suppose it could be a counterintuitive strategy to make sure Mirai does skate the program well at the competitions when it counts. I'd love to hear David Wilson address this at some point.
I think that is wishful thinking, since Mirai has many UR problems with her jumping... Would she really be able to fully rotate the most difficult one in a competition???
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Even if she did, would she be able to rotate the additional 6 triples that she would need to win a big event? It's quite a bit of a different situation than Liza, who had displayed a complete mastery of all the triples before introducing the 3A. Mirai achieving a 3A but then rotating another triple or two in a LP won't help her much at all.
