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The Judging Controversy Thread
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I've never seen any of those athletes do an axel or a layback spin. I've seen a lot of handshakes after sporting events. Just saying..circumstantial yes...concrete no.
The thing is not just Russian judge hugged with Sotnikova.
In the picture, the person right next to the Sot. and hugged is also judge panel who is from Finland.
i do agree with this - i don't think it's professional nor do i think it's appropriate. yes, you'll usually have someone of the same nationality/country on the panel, but this went a little beyond that - people shouldn't forget the tech panel either, with adelina's former coach on it.. that's crazy conflict of interest.
the more i think about it the more outrageous i think it is. people are saying yeah its normal or it's happened, but it just isn't right/wise of them. my god if i didnt know better i would have thought that woman was her mother. in no other circumstance could i see this as being normal
twitter handle is: This sums up the sport. Not necessarily cheating, but enough to make you go Hmmmmn
I understand If Russian judge just hugged Sot. BUT what about the judge from Finland???
Lol.
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All sports have this in common, that the athletes have a right to expect neutrality on the part of the officials whose decisions determine who wins and who loses.
Figure skating is almost unique in that the judges are part of the team, with a personal stake in the outcome.
On the other hand, the all-time successful Olympic athlete was the emperor Nero. He won every contest he entered -- dozens of them, including singing.
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How about this approach. When I look at the protocols http://www.isuresults.com/results/owg2014/owg14_Ladies_FS_Scores.pdf
I could easily say...well I see two that love Yuna and the must be the Korean and/or someone they clearly influenced. It's only based in circumstantial and bias. Is it not? Yet I could argue it to death. Right?
yes, but handshaking is more like, good game/respect kind of thing. this is a congratulations (right after i judged your and yours competitors' scores)
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I completely agree and completelyAll sports have this in common, that the athletes have a right to expect neutrality on the part of the officials whose decisions determine who wins and who loses.
Figure skating is almost unique in that the judges are part of the team, with a personal and stake in the outcome.
On the other hand, the all-time successful Olympic athlete was the emperor Nero. He won every contest he entered -- dozens of them, including singing.
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Maybe the ISU should change the rules so that the only judges on the panel have to be from countries that do no have a skater in the competition. At least that would cut down on some of the bias...until someone's federation buys them out. 
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MK and Slutskaya imploded. Yuna and Caro skated perfectly. There's no "Sarah Hughes" excuse here.
Exactly.
We are 6 days into the controversy. Where are the pictures of other judges hugging winners at the Olympics? Shouldn't they have been exposed by now, if they exist?
Back to Adelina. Not only did the judge hug her, she hugged her as if she knew her very well, almost like family because the judge is the wife of her federation's president. This clearly breaks the rules of conflict of interest. Then we have the judge with the blue collar (the "Finland" official with the Russian name) who was also on the panel, waiting with baited breath to congratulate her. Not suspicious at all!
Then there is Yuri Balkov... Problem after problem after problem with the judge's behavior.
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WOW. Everyday I log on expecting the furor to have died down, but every day there is more evidence that Adelina did not deserve to win.
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You do realize that was my point. In one month both Caro and Adelina went up 20pts.
Sarah Hughes won 2001 Skate Canada, defeating Michelle Kwan and Irina Slutskaya, prior to winning the 2002 Olympic gold medal.
Maybe the ISU should change the rules so that the only judges on the panel have to be from countries that do no have a skater in the competition. At least that would cut down on some of the bias...until someone's federation buys them out.
check every judge's bank account! we need to see for large and sudden monetary increases.You are delusional. In FS, there was no Korean judge and 2 of judes gave generous score to Sot. dont you see??
2 of judges who gave ridiculous PCS AND ALL +3 GOE to Sot. gave YuNa 7~8 on PCS
Seriously, these judges gave 9.75, 9.5 9.75 9.75.. to Sot and to YuNa 7 on PCS.
Are you [*********] just trying to defend this corrupt judge????
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She was also a Worlds bronze medalist
omg... relax...
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Carolina could very well have been the red herring, used to take the suspicion away from Adelina's inflation.
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All sports have this in common, that the athletes have a right to expect neutrality on the part of the officials whose decisions determine who wins and who loses.
Figure skating is almost unique in that the judges are part of the team, with a personal stake in the outcome.
On the other hand, the all-time successful Olympic athlete was the emperor Nero. He won every contest he entered -- dozens of them, including singing.
Totally OT, but since you mentioned Nero, and I do think it might amuse you, I just couldn't resist
:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w-Nh-zSMzqo
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Who are MK and Slutskaya? And what evidence did you discover today when you logged in? I'm willing to be convinced I promise you but when I look at what evidence that isn't circumstantial I'm more suspicious of the heart of the conspiracy itself it seems.
